31 minutes ago, lungbing said:

This also shows who is the senior partner in the Israel/US axis.  And it ain't the yanks.

 

Saudi Arabia?

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The strike in Doha was against the terrorists who organised the attack in Jerusalem a few days ago where six innocent people were murdered .

   The person killed in Doha also threatened more attacks on Israel .

It was not an act  of war on Qatar , some even suggest tht Qatar were compliant 

 

Qatar’s Foreign Ministry says Israel’s attack targeting a residential building housing Hamas officials is a ‘flagrant violation of international law’.

 

Qatar’s Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani has condemned Israel’s “reckless criminal attack” in the capital Doha in a phone call with US President Donald Trump.

 

The attack is “a flagrant violation of its sovereignty and security, and a clear violation of the rules and principles of international law,” Sheikh Tamim said in a statement on Tuesday.

 

Qatar Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani called Israel’s attack “state terrorism”.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/9/qatar-condemns-cowardly-israeli-attack-in-doha

 

Qatar was compliant? That's why they're taking legal action against Israel now then? There's no country in the world that would be complicit in allowing itself to be hit with missiles, just to please Israeli megalomania.

 

The strike in Doha was state terrorism, Israel's speciality.

 

The innocent that was murdered was a Qatari security officer.

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Doesn't matter. If so, he was still a civilian. 

 

The prohibition to kill children is just part of the prohibition to kill civilians.

 

Hamas has acknowledged that Humum al-Hayya, the son of Khalil, was a member of Hamas.  He was not a civilian.  The U.N. and most national governments define a child as someone under the age of 18, so he was neither a civilian nor a child in the legal sense. 

 

From Al-Jazeera:

In an official statement on Tuesday, the Palestinian movement Hamas said the attack killed five of its members, and a Qatari officer, but did not eliminate its negotiating delegation or any of its senior leadership.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/10/who-is-khalil-al-hayya-who-else-was-targeted-in-israels-attack-on-qatar

9 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

No Qataris were harmed were they?

 

Before you make long posts, inform yourself better.

 

Qatar’s Ministry of Interior said that Corporal Bader Saad Mohammed Al-Humaidi al-Dosari, a member of the Internal Security Force (Lekhwiya), was “martyred” while performing his duties. Several security personnel were also injured in the attack, it said in a statement.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/9/qatar-condemns-cowardly-israeli-attack-in-doha

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Qatar’s Foreign Ministry says Israel’s attack targeting a residential building housing Hamas officials is a ‘flagrant violation of international law’.

 

Qatar’s Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani has condemned Israel’s “reckless criminal attack” in the capital Doha in a phone call with US President Donald Trump.

 

The attack is “a flagrant violation of its sovereignty and security, and a clear violation of the rules and principles of international law,” Sheikh Tamim said in a statement on Tuesday.

 

Qatar Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani called Israel’s attack “state terrorism”.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/9/qatar-condemns-cowardly-israeli-attack-in-doha

 

Qatar was compliant? That's why they're taking legal action against Israel now then? There's no country in the world that would be complicit in allowing itself to be hit with missiles, just to please Israeli megalomania.

 

The strike in Doha was state terrorism, Israel's speciality.

 

The innocent that was murdered was a Qatari security officer.

 

    Qatar wanted the Hamas members gone from Qatar

Qatar asked them to leave last year .

Qatar expelled them, but Hamas wouldn't leave .

Hams were dragging Qatar into the regional conflict

It was embarrassing for Qatar to have  Hamas terrorist organisation based in Qatar and their constant hate speeches and "Meetings in Doha' and Qatar appearing to be the middleman and spokesman for Hamas

    It wouldn't be at all surprising in Qatar gave Israel the Nod .

Rather than publicly being seen to side with Israel , they would make some public statement condemning the attack whilst privately relieved to see the back of Hamas 

30 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Hamas has acknowledged that Humum al-Hayya, the son of Khalil, was a member of Hamas.  He was not a civilian.  The U.N. and most national governments define a child as someone under the age of 18, so he was neither a civilian nor a child in the legal sense. 

 

That's fine, I accept that. However, Israel's attack was still illegal under the existing laws of war.Apart from the fact that Qatari people were killed and injured, use of force in self-defense relates to the requirements of necessity and proportionality, which require “an imminent threat of force or a continuing armed attack” and that “any [military] response must be necessary to avert the threat.

 

There was no such imminent threat of force emanating from that house in Qatar.

 

The right to self-defense applies to state actors. When this right was drafted it was clearly drafted with state actors in mind. It does not apply to Mohammed  who  is planning some terrorist attack, and even less in a state that does not harbour or participate in the terrorist attack.

 

 

 On Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas-led militants launched air and ground attacks on Israel, killing nearly 1,200 and taking more than 250 hostages. The attacks, followed hours later by Israeli counterattacks, marked the beginning of the current Israel-Hamas War.

24 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Qatar wanted the Hamas members gone from Qatar

Qatar asked them to leave last year .

Qatar expelled them, but Hamas wouldn't leave .

Hams were dragging Qatar into the regional conflict

It was embarrassing for Qatar to have  Hamas terrorist organisation based in Qatar and their constant hate speeches and "Meetings in Doha' and Qatar appearing to be the middleman and spokesman for Hamas

    It wouldn't be at all surprising in Qatar gave Israel the Nod .

Rather than publicly being seen to side with Israel , they would make some public statement condemning the attack whilst privately relieved to see the back of Hamas 

 

So Qatar said to Israel, please bomb our civilian population in our most plush residential neighbourhoods, help us out won't youi?

 

And generous Israel, always willing to help, went and shot a missile at a Qatari residential area, to help out the Qataris.

 

i tell you what, you should write crime novels, you have an amazing imagination.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

So Hamas said to Israel, please bomb our civilian population in our most plush residential neighbourhoods, help us out won't youi?

 

And generous Israel, always willing to help, went and shot a missile at a Qatari residential area, to help out the Qataris.

 

i tell you what, you should write crime novels, you have an amazing imagination.

 

   The Qatar civilian population wasn't bombed though .

Qatar wanted Hamas gone ( and Israel wanted Hamas gone)  and rather than force Hamas out and publicly appear to be siding with Israel , Qatar just allowed Israel to get on with it .

    It was a  precision attack and just the Hamas entourage were hit 

 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

The Qatar civilian population wasn't bombed though .

 

Yes it was, a Qatari civilian building in a plush residential neighbourhood was bombed.

 

A Qatari security officer was killed, several were injured.

 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Qatar wanted Hamas gone ( and Israel wanted Hamas gone)  and rather than force Hamas out and publicly appear to be siding with Israel , Qatar just allowed Israel to get on with it .

 

Pure fantasy. No state in the world would ask Israel to bomb its prime residential neighbourhood. You know why? Because everyone knows the IDF is insane and mad as a hatter.

 

Okay, they were careful to do a strike that did not do major damage, unlike how they operate in Gaza, but they still bombed a prime Doha neighbourhood. A civilian neighbourhood.

2 hours ago, TedG said:

The UN is not credible these days. 

And USA and and Israel is? 

 

Never lied, never harmed anyone? 

 

Even we are allies, we are not stupid, we have trusted sources, eyes and a brain 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Pure fantasy. No state in the world would ask Israel to bomb its prime residential neighbourhood. You know why? Because everyone knows the IDF is insane and mad as a hatter.

 

    You say that , claiming Israel are "mad" and would go on a  mad bombing rampage .

   The reality is that Israel just struck one target , one intended target .

Israel hit their pone target and that was it, mission over .

  IDF are NOT insane , this was a precision targeted attack .

Israel d0oesnt want  conflict with Qatar

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Could you name the people whom you are referring to ?

Would they also risk destroying the Old City of Jerusalem and the al Aqsa Mosque ?

What part of Tel Aviv didn't you understand?

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

It was not a strike against Qatar. No Qataris were harmed were they? Qatar has been hosting 

Ahh, so I guess the Qatari security guard that got killed in the bombing doesn't count....

17 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Even we are allies, we are not stupid, we have trusted sources, eyes and a brain 

How come you can't see how Hamas lies? 

9 minutes ago, Huisnblasi said:

What part of Tel Aviv didn't you understand?

 

   Jerusalem isn't too far way and could be effected by a wayward rocket

9 minutes ago, Huisnblasi said:

Ahh, so I guess the Qatari security guard that got killed in the bombing doesn't count....

 

    He was working for Hamas , he was on the Hamas payroll

11 minutes ago, TedG said:

How come you can't see how Hamas lies? 

Oh, my, 

 

never mind, it is a dead end discussing the same matter every day on this forum with the same who cant see or think why things escalated, and why we still having this discussion about the same as yesterday, the day before, the week before and last year, and last millennium, there is simple things that never changes. 

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    You say that , claiming Israel are "mad" and would go on a  mad bombing rampage .

   The reality is that Israel just struck one target , one intended target .

Israel hit their pone target and that was it, mission over .

  IDF are NOT insane , this was a precision targeted attack .

Israel d0oesnt want  conflict with Qatar

 

It wasn't that precision obviously since they missed the people they intended to kill and instead killed a Qatari security officer. Quite incompetent really.

 

But yes, thankfully they did a limited strike so the damage was not on the scale of how they demolish residential buildings in Gaza.

 

It's kind of insane to claim "self-defense" when you hit a nation that has no intention to attack you, and hit a residential building where no imminent threat was emananting  from. It'd say that qualifies for insane.

 

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Oh, my, 

 

never mind, it is a dead end discussing the same matter every day on this forum with the same who cant see or think why things escalated, and why we still having this discussion about the same as yesterday, the day before, the week before and last year, and last millennium, there is simple things that never changes. 

I’ll take it as a yes.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's kind of insane to claim "self-defense" when you hit a nation that has no intention to attack you, and hit a residential building where no imminent threat was emananting  from. It'd say that qualifies for insane.

 

   I just isn't getting through .

Qatar was not attacked .

The Hamas terrorists who were plotting to attack Israel were attacked 

 

13 minutes ago, TedG said:

I’ll take it as a yes.

You take it for what? In war the truth is the first thing that disappears, most normal thinking people understand that, most, but not everyone. Both parts will do war crimes, and both parts will use propeganda, and manage to create a psychological pressure on those who part with one side or both, while you also have those who can see two evil and not only one. 

 

Killing innocent civilians is a crime no matter what reasons you think you have for doing it. 

 

If Israel really wanted the hostages back, they would not rush to bomb Gaza to pieces and use 10 for one tactical or 1000 for one as this seems to be an reality soon 

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I just isn't getting through .

Qatar was not attacked .

The Hamas terrorists who were plotting to attack Israel were attacked 

 

 

There were no terrorists plotting any attack. 

 

This was a pure old testament bombing, revenge for the bus attack recently. That was the sole reason for this attack, it was a response to the bus attack.

 

Old testament, eye for an eye theory in action.

This is a pity.  I hope Israel gets him. 

2 hours ago, Dan747 said:

 On Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas-led militants launched air and ground attacks on Israel, killing nearly 1,200 and taking more than 250 hostages. The attacks, followed hours later by Israeli counterattacks, marked the beginning of the current Israel-Hamas War.

Who started the previous ones?

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

There were no terrorists plotting any attack. 

 

This was a pure old testament bombing, revenge for the bus attack recently. That was the sole reason for this attack, it was a response to the bus attack.

 

Old testament, eye for an eye theory in action.

 

  The attack was to stop them doing it again 

They were bought to justice for their crimes against innocent civilians and a foetus  

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Killing innocent civilians is a crime no matter what reasons you think you have for doing it. 

 

   The only innocent civilians  that were murdered in this story are the 6 Israelis and the unborn child .

   The killers paid for their crime

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The hostages were not released 

Keep killing until they are. 

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

Who started the previous ones?

 

From the online Encyclopedia Britannica (I bolded the text):

 

On November 29, 1947, the United Nations (UN) voted to partition the British mandate of Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state (see United Nations Resolution 181). Clashes broke out almost immediately between Jews and Arabs in Palestine, beginning with the Arab ambush of a bus carrying Jewish passengers from Netanya to Jerusalem on November 30. 

 

And from the same source, about what happened after Israel declared independence on  May 15, 1948:

 

The fighting intensified immediately: Egypt launched an aerial assault on Tel Aviv, and, the next day, Arab forces from Egypt, Transjordan (Jordan), Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon occupied the areas in southern and eastern Palestine not apportioned to the Jews by the UN partition of Palestine and then captured East Jerusalem, including the small Jewish quarter of the Old City. 

 

https://www.britannica.com/event/Arab-Israeli-wars

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 The only innocent civilians  that were murdered in this story are the 6 Israelis and the unborn child .

Unborn children...

 

Thats about how tough the jew haters are. Hail the death of a foetus as victory.