Just now, TedG said:

HAMAS will not stop until they are destroyed. 

That's kind of the point of a resistance movement  ?

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Yes, we've been hearing that for forty years. 

I know it's very disappointing  all the strongly worded letters, UN pronouncements, news conferences  but not a  single sanction,embargo,war crime prosecution  disgusting.

14 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Why is it ok for one side in this conflict get massive support for their crimes, yet the other gets condemned for alleged war crimes?

Because one side is killing jews. Guess which side?

13 minutes ago, johng said:

That's kind of the point of a resistance movement  ?

They wont be able to resist once they are dead.

35 minutes ago, johng said:

Move the "homeland" to New York ,Hollywood  or Western Germany...why do you want your "homeland" to be surrounded by

hostiles that you constantly have to wage war against ?

 

Now, now, @johng  ... you know it's not realistic to suggest moving the Jewish homeland to the U.S. or Germany.  Jews don't want their homeland to be surrounded by hostile people and nations; Jews hope their neighbors would become friendly.  There's no reason Jews and Arabs can't live beside each other in peace as long as Arabs have the will to do so.

 

Early Zionists  in the 1880s chose Palestine as the site of the future Jewish homeland for practical reasons as well as the Biblical connection.  Back then, the slogan of the Zionists was "A land without people for a people without a land."  At that time, Palestine was a wretchedly poor and underdeveloped corner of the Ottoman Empire with few inhabitants.  The early Zionists were welcomed because  they brought with them economic opportunity, advanced agricultural techniques and jobs for poor Arabs.

Once the Arabs recapture that spirit, then true peace can come to the Middle East.

 

30 minutes ago, johng said:

They are  and the international community  increasingly  agrees.

 

The Israeli government is not committing atrocities and the opinion of some parts of the international community is irrelevant.  The Jews of Israel will continue to defend themselves as they have done since 1948, no matter what crowds of antisemites are yelling in the streets of European or North American cities.

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

They wont be able to resist once they are dead.

Yes exactly ....genocide supporter  maybe once all the Palestinians are dead

you can move onto the Iranians  and Syrians.

 

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6 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Now, now, @johng  ... you know it's not realistic to suggest moving the Jewish homeland to the U.S. or Germany.  Jews don't want their homeland to be surrounded by hostile people and nations; Jews hope their neighbors would become friendly.

If they want friends why do they keep provoking wars ?

 

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

Not that it would..

 

Here's an idea Israel release  all the Palestinian prisoners  in exchange for all the "hostages"

 

   Bad idea .

Sinwar was a prisoner in an Israeli jail, jailed for numerous murders.

He was previously released in a prisoner exchange for hostages .

Sinwar went on to organise and lead the Oct 7 th terror attack

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its better to stick to the subject matter .

Other allegations of other crimes can be discussed in other threads 

So, you are saying that they don´t sum up the characteristics of the person in question? I know they do, so it has high relevance to the thread and the subject.

Now try the same on somebody less intelligent.

14 minutes ago, johng said:

Yes exactly ....genocide supporter  maybe once all the Palestinians are dead

you can move onto the Iranians  and Syrians.

 

If necessary. Surrender and give up your anti jew ideology or die.

 

If Jews have a right to exist, you cannot deny their right to defend themselves. We know how you feel already so no need to respond further. 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Bad idea .

Sinwar was a prisoner in an Israeli jail, jailed for numerous murders.

He was previously released in a prisoner exchange for hostages .

Sinwar went on to organise and lead the Oct 7 th terror attack

Notice how they equate common criminals and murderers with "freedom fighters".

 

Do you know that if a Palestinian teenager grabs a jewish child, rapes it and then cuts off its head in public, his family gets money and he is cheered as a hero.

 

Imagine. A culture that glorifies rape, terror and murder.

3 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

So, you are saying that they don´t sum up the characteristics of the person in question? I know they do, so it has high relevance to the thread and the subject.

Now try the same on somebody less intelligent.

 

   Just ends up with every thread being the same with the same discussion each time , with the same people saying the same thing back and forth to each other .

   That's why its better to keep to the current topic .

Even in courts of law, you aren't allowed to bring up previous allegations or convictions 

Just now, johng said:

If they want friends why do they keep provoking wars ?

 

Jews didn't provoke any wars.  In 1948,  the Zionists accepted the U.N. partition plan for Palestine.  The Arab League and local Palestinian leaders rejected it.  As soon as Israel declared independence,  the former Palestinian mandate was invaded by five  Arab countries and the first Arab-Israeli War began.  Since then, Israel has signed peace treaties with most neighboring nations, but groups like Hamas refuse to accept Israel's right to exist. 

 

That's the main obstacle to a lasting peace.  Once all Arab groups acknowledge Israel's right to exist as the homeland of the world's Jews, many things can be negotiated.

Just one question for @johng and any other supporters of Ha-, oops, I mean the Palestinian people.  Do you believe in the literal truth of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

19 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Just one question for @johng and any other supporters of Ha-, oops, I mean the Palestinian people.  Do you believe in the literal truth of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

LOL LOL. 

3 hours ago, johng said:

 

Not that it would..

 

Here's an idea Israel release  all the Palestinian prisoners  in exchange for all the "hostages"

 

The last thing Netanyahu wants is a negotiated end to this conflict.  He needs Gaza flattened and the Palestinians gone or dead.

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

The last thing Netanyahu wants is a negotiated end to this conflict.  He needs Gaza flattened and the Palestinians gone or dead.

 

   That is the only way that peace will prevail in the future .

Its the only way to keep Israelis safe from attacks 

25 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

The last thing Netanyahu wants is a negotiated end to this conflict.  He needs Gaza flattened and the Palestinians gone or dead.

You dont negotiate any more, they had their chance last year. Kill until they are all dead, then salt the ground, then go out and clean up the remnants.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Just ends up with every thread being the same with the same discussion each time , with the same people saying the same thing back and forth to each other .

   That's why its better to keep to the current topic .

Even in courts of law, you aren't allowed to bring up previous allegations or convictions 

Sorry dude, ain´t a court of law here. But sure, it was funny.

2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Sorry dude, ain´t a court of law here. But sure, it was funny.

 

   And we arent here to discuss whether Netanyahu has previously committed war crimes , that has been discussed in many other threads . 

   This thread is about Doha bombings 

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   And we arent here to discuss whether Netanyahu has previously committed war crimes , that has been discussed in many other threads . 

   This thread is about Doha bombings 

And his actions and mindset are of high relevance, so I guess I will continue on that.

16 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

And his actions and mindset are of high relevance, so I guess I will continue on that.

 

   Do you think that the Hamas leaders survived the attack ?

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you think that the Hamas leaders survived the attack ?

They try to say that. However, I think some didn´t. However, it´s not important for these groups as there will always be people in line to take over the positions. There is no chance in the world the eradicate them and should be no need for that. What they should do, is to respect each other and their respective areas. That is impossible, because it will never happen. Same with Israel. If they kill or remove Netanyahu, there will always be another idiot in line.

Israel will attack Qatar again 

Off topic baiting post removed

18 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That is the only way that peace will prevail in the future .

Its the only way to keep Israelis safe from attacks 

 

18 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You dont negotiate any more, they had their chance last year. Kill until they are all dead, then salt the ground, then go out and clean up the remnants.

 

So that's the answer? You both support genocide?

 

Please, none of the 'Israel has been - attacked by Hamas; etc'  rhetoric. 

It's amusing how the left has redefined genocide, such that anyone they do not like is committing it. 

 

Palestine is trying to commit genocide in Israel. 

5 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

So that's the answer? You both support genocide?

 

Please, none of the 'Israel has been - attacked by Hamas; etc'  rhetoric. 

 

   There's no other solution to the problem 

21 minutes ago, RayC said:

So that's the answer? You both support genocide?

 

Israel's war on Hamas has nothing to do with genocide, any more than the attempts to destroy Al Qaeda and ISIS are genocide.  The definition of genocide has been expanded by Israel-haters to include Israel's entirely justified military actions against Hamas.  It would be ridiculous to say the destruction of the Medellin cartel amounted to genocide against Colombians or the pursuit of Nazi war criminals was genocide against Germans.

 

The Israeli government and IDF are trying to wipe out a terrorist group which has vowed to destroy Israel.  That isn't genocide by any legitimate definition.