2 hours ago, Hummin said:

You take it for what? In war the truth is the first thing that disappears, most normal thinking people understand that, most, but not everyone. Both parts will do war crimes, and both parts will use propeganda, and manage to create a psychological pressure on those who part with one side or both, while you also have those who can see two evil and not only one. 

 

Killing innocent civilians is a crime no matter what reasons you think you have for doing it. 

 

If Israel really wanted the hostages back, they would not rush to bomb Gaza to pieces and use 10 for one tactical or 1000 for one as this seems to be an reality soon 

We will see what you say when the terrs do what they do in your country...or do the jews have more balls that you guys?

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    He was working for Hamas , he was on the Hamas payroll

Dude if you would inform yourself like any normal human being you would know that he was a Qatari security guard employed (and paid) by the Qatari government. The more I talk to you, I'm convinced that you rode the shorty to school.

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Keep killing until they are. 

How about if they release them in small pieces? Maybe keeping a few parts of each one... wouldn't that be a problem for the Jewish famillies if they can't burrie whole bodies?

17 minutes ago, Huisnblasi said:

How about if they release them in small pieces? Maybe keeping a few parts of each one... wouldn't that be a problem for the Jewish famillies if they can't burrie whole bodies?

Oh exactly, thats why they dip their bullets and artillery in pig fat.

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Israel d0oesnt want  conflict with Qatar

 

Bombing buildings within Qatar might suggest otherwise

1 hour ago, RayC said:

 

Bombing buildings within Qatar might suggest otherwise

And Qatar took it. They dont want conflict.

How many countries has Israel attacked this week? - 5!  One gets the impression that Israel, with Trump's support, wants to invade ever Islamic country in the Middle East and North Africa.

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  The attack was to stop them doing it again 

They were bought to justice for their crimes against innocent civilians and a foetus  

 

Wouldn't Hamas say the bus attack was to stop Israel invadnig Gaza? So how would this eye for an eye battle end?

 

The problem I see for Israel is that even if it succeeds in its genocide of Palestinians, it is surrounded by Arabs who hate Israel for what it is doing.. Even after the Palestinians disappear, this hatred of Israel by Arabs will continue.

 

And yes, Israel can say it defeated Nasser and his Arab coalition way back in the 60s. But just like israel weaponed up, so can Arab states weapon up eventually.

 

If Israel acts in this way, is it not likely that it will die? As the ancients said, live by the sword...die by the sword.

 

 

What a waste!

 

Not only did Netanyahu deliberately bombard an allied country, but they also missed their shot.

How can anyone boast about this action like some here?

The consequences are yet obvious to all: cooling of relations avec all the Gulf countries, strengthening the now almost unanimous distrust of Israel, and condemnation of the hostages still alive.

20 hours ago, billd766 said:

Not content with killing Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank stealing their land, Attacking the Lebanon, Syria. Iran and Yemen, Netanyahu has now attacked Qatar, a long term ally of his oldest and strongest ally. the USA. 

 

With, I suspect the collusion of Saudi Arabia which is the shortest route to Qatar. Either that or the US supplied air defence system is totally useless.

 

Saudi Arabia is also an ally of the USA.

 

 With US President Donald Trump calling the incident "unfortunate".

 

Attacking a peace delegation in a neutral sovereign country.

 

Is it just me that thinks that Netanyahu is totally crazy, and is not interested in the peace talks at all?

We are in millions thinking the same.

14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Who will be doing that ?

Who will be dropping that dirty bomb ?

Allahu Akbar

Hamas have only them selves to blame for causing the destruction of Gaza 

Sorry for the woman and children there but look no further then their leadership who dont care about the suffering 

That's why they hide in wealth and security in Qatar hypocrites

16 hours ago, lungbing said:

This also shows who is the senior partner in the Israel/US axis.  And it ain't the yanks.

don't forget that the brits did the inflight refueling, that preplanning!

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Allahu Akbar

 

   Have you ever questioned whose side God is on ?

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Wouldn't Hamas say the bus attack was to stop Israel invadnig Gaza? So how would this eye for an eye battle end?

 

There is no moral equivalence.  Israel is a sovereign state and homeland of the world's Jews.  Hamas is a terrorist group attempting to destroy Israel.  It's not an eye-for-eye battle but Israel defending itself against relentless attack.  Hopefully it will end with the elimination of Hamas.

 

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

If Israel acts in this way, is it not likely that it will die? As the ancients said, live by the sword...die by the sword.

 

Golda Meir said it best many years ago:

 

"If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel."

and

“You cannot negotiate peace with somebody who has come to kill you.” 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Have you ever questioned whose side God is on ?

I'm Atheist 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Oh exactly, thats why they dip their bullets and artillery in pig fat.

That would be the brits, along with there canonisations.

Just now, newbee2022 said:

I'm Atheist 

 

   Why did you post that "God is great" if you're atheist ?

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why did you post that "God is great" if you're atheist ?

For the believers

17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Targeting terrorists, leaders of a terrorist organisation is now a War Crime ?

 

Was the targeting by the USA and Nato of Osama Bin Laden also a War Crime ? - he was killed in Pakistan, but a Saudi National.

 

Was the targeting by the USA of General Qassem Soleimani (commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps - Quds Force) also a War Crime ? he was Iranian, killed by a drone attack in Iraq.

 

Was the targeting by the USA of Abu Baqir al Saadi (a senior commander of Kataib Hezbollah) also a War Crime ? 

 

 

 

You seem to have a polished, blinkered view - conflicts like this are never clean. We live in a world where terror cells hide behind borders, shielded by states that claim neutrality. Who will stop them? You? The civilians? The USA, the IDF, and all forces committed to targeting terrorists bear a responsibility far beyond what anyone sitting safely behind a desk could comprehend.

 

The actions taken against Hamas in Qatar, severe as they may seem, are aimed at preventing attacks, protecting innocent lives, and defending the freedoms of the West. You may weep over collateral damage and question the methods - but you do not understand the lives saved through decisive action. Some threats leave no room for hesitation. They demand people willing to do what must be done, to strike at those who plan mass murder, even when the world judges harshly.

 

Yet you refuse to respect the necessity of these actions. You choose instead to stand in judgment - from the pedestal of the very freedoms these actions exist to defend (CJ - AFGM).

 

 

How would you call it when other countries start bombing targets in the UK or USA?

No terrorist with Israeli blood on their hands is safe ANYWHERE, given time and the place, they will ALL be taken out out one by one, Israel will NRVER forget or forgive, peace or no peace, those murderers will pay, with their lives. 

23 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Have you ever questioned whose side God is on ?

 

There is no god, Christian, Catholic, Jewish, Islam or any other imaginary friends, follow the money.

9 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

There is no moral equivalence.  Israel is a sovereign state and homeland of the world's Jews.  Hamas is a terrorist group attempting to destroy Israel.  It's not an eye-for-eye battle but Israel defending itself against relentless attack.  Hopefully it will end with the elimination of Hamas.

 

Well, morality is really just a particular perspective of good and bad. You have your moral perspective, and Hamas members have theirs. 

 

Yes, Hamas is a terrorist organization, but so is Israel, which has sent its killer squads to Norway, Dubai and now Qatar. State terrorism is a speciality of Israel.

I realise you think it is justified on the grounds of self-defense, vengeance and so on, but facts are facts.

 

Hamas may well be eliminate,d as was the PLO, but given the hatred Israel has created with killing indiscriminately in the whole Arab world, it is hard to see a future for Israel that does not include fear of taking the bus or boarding a plane.

 

13 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

“You cannot negotiate peace with somebody who has come to kill you.” 

 

Given that those in Qatar were doing just that, negotiating with someone who wanted to kill them, you may be right.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Given that those in Qatar were doing just that, negotiating with someone who wanted to kill them, you may be right.

 

Hamas does not want peace.  They want a cease fire so they can rebuild their forces.  If Hamas truly wanted peace, they would recognize Israel's right to exist as the homeland of the world's Jews.

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

And Qatar took it. They dont want conflict.

 

And you think that justified the initial action?

 

Do you think that more powerful nations - or those with powerful allies - should have carte blanche to act as they like, when they like, where they like, and the rest of the world should just keep quiet about it?

Just now, Evil Penevil said:

 

Hamas does not want peace.  They want a cease fire so they can rebuild their forces.  If Hamas truly wanted peace, they would recognize Israel's right to exist as the homeland of the world's Jews.

 

I know. 

 

They would turn around and say "You cannot make peace with people who come to kill your children" or some such.

 

The Israel/Palestine relationship is a bit like a couple who've thrown the most hateful, extreme insults at each other. Co-habitation is impossible.

You can run but you can't hide, the long arm of the IDF will get you, sooner or later, where ever you will be.

On 9/10/2025 at 8:26 AM, billd766 said:

Not content with killing Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank stealing their land, Attacking the Lebanon, Syria. Iran and Yemen, Netanyahu has now attacked Qatar, a long term ally of his oldest and strongest ally. the USA. 

 

With, I suspect the collusion of Saudi Arabia which is the shortest route to Qatar. Either that or the US supplied air defence system is totally useless.

 

Saudi Arabia is also an ally of the USA.

 

 With US President Donald Trump calling the incident "unfortunate".

 

Attacking a peace delegation in a neutral sovereign country.

 

Is it just me that thinks that Netanyahu is totally crazy, and is not interested in the peace talks at all?

I agree, Netanyahu has lost his mind! He was considered a "Hawk" many years ago and I was shocked when he was elected again!! I knew bad things could happen, but this was not expected and he has gone to far this time...😫

9 hours ago, Huisnblasi said:

How about if they release them in small pieces? Maybe keeping a few parts of each one... wouldn't that be a problem for the Jewish famillies if they can't burrie whole bodies?

 

    There are no levels of depravity that Hamas wouldn't sink to , they seem to reach the bottom of inhumanity and then always seem to manage to go a bit lower .

  Keeping body parts of families of people they killed , just for the sole purpose of them not being able to have  funeral would be reaching the depths of depravity .

   I would hope that people wouldn't sink that low , but Hamas have acted in  similar fashion previously .

   Barbaric, but not unexpected 

6 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Hamas does not want peace.  They want a cease fire so they can rebuild their forces.  If Hamas truly wanted peace, they would recognize Israel's right to exist as the homeland of the world's Jews.

Correct, as their main target Chief Negotiator and Senior Hamas Leader Khalil al-hayya said in previous cease fire talks in Jan. 

 

"despite suing for an end to the war, the group would continue to pursue Israel’s destruction"

 

The deadliest slaughter of Jews in a single day since the Holocaust was a “military accomplishment” and “a source of pride for our people… to be passed down from generation to generation,” al-Hayya said.

Hamas’s top negotiator in the ceasefire and hostage talks said despite suing for an end to the war, the group would continue to pursue Israel’s destruction, looking toward Jerusalem and the Al-Aqsa Mosque as a “compass.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-leader-touts-ceasefire-as-a-defeat-for-israel-while-hailing-oct-7-atrocities/

 

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