2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Then explain how they are separate. 

 

Just saying they are separate does not get you there.

 

We are going around in circles, 

I’ve done that already.

Posts expressing derision towards other members, and replies, were removed. Debate the topic politely please, if you have valid points, instead of resorting to mockery and scorn. Thank you. 

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

We are going around in circles, 

I’ve done that already.

No, you have not. You are just going around in circles, saying they are separate, you have not explained how they are separate, or what separates them. 

 

Just cut-and-paste what you said that explains how Hamas is separate from Palestine. Should be easy enough. yes? 

A contemptuous post and a reply to it were removed. Warnings will follow for those who don't debate politely. Thank you. 

On 9/20/2025 at 11:07 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

Ireland recognised a Palestine state a few month go .

What difference has it made ?

what changes have happened since then ?

It's the European way.  Symbolism over substance. 

On 9/21/2025 at 12:14 PM, newbee2022 said:

We got this months ago already.

At that time I was banned for a day using the word genocide and claiming around 50.000 women and children and innocents were killed.

Now, a few months later.......continue the sentence.....

 

You weren't banned. Your posting rights were temporarily suspended.

 

As for this "genocide" word. That's been bandied about almost as long as these Hamas- spawned claims of being on their last food, diesel, water, hospital, etc..

47 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

You weren't banned. Your posting rights were temporarily suspended.

 

As for this "genocide" word. That's been bandied about almost as long as these Hamas- spawned claims of being on their last food, diesel, water, hospital, etc..

Ridiculous post

6 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

7 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

You weren't banned. Your posting rights were temporarily suspended.

 

As for this "genocide" word. That's been bandied about almost as long as these Hamas- spawned claims of being on their last food, diesel, water, hospital, etc..

Ridiculous post

 

Banned = suspended (actually, you're still here)

 

Genocide = erased (actually, there's more Palestinians in the world now than there was before the start of Israel's aggression)

 

Ridiculous = deserving ridicule (actually, a valid alternative opinion)

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Genocide = erased (actually, there's more Palestinians in the world now than there was before the start of Israel's aggression)

Are you denying the Genocide?

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Genocide = erased (actually, there's more Palestinians in the world now than there was before the start of Israel's aggression)

Not in Gaza, obviously.

 

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2585353/middle-east

15 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Are you denying the Genocide?

I am. 

11 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Not in Gaza, obviously.

 

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2585353/middle-east

They moved. 

Just now, Yellowtail said:

They moved. 

No, they were killed, read the news, it equates to around 100 every day.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I am. 

You are biased.

3 minutes ago, JimCM said:

You are biased.

You are more biased

6 minutes ago, JimCM said:

No, they were killed, read the news, it equates to around 100 every day.

No, your numbers do not add up. 

 

Gaza Population 2025

https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities/palestine/gaza

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, your numbers do not add up. 

 

Gaza Population 2025

https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities/palestine/gaza

There are not 800,000 people in Gaza, it’s more than 2 million. bs link

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You are more biased

I’m neither a Jew nor Muslim.

1 minute ago, JimCM said:

I’m neither a Jew nor Muslim.

but you are more biased than me. Let me guess, you're a leftist.

19 minutes ago, JimCM said:

There are not 800,000 people in Gaza, it’s more than 2 million. bs link

 

    1.2 Million may have starved to death ?

2 hours ago, JimCM said:

Are you denying the Genocide?

 

Yes.

 

2 hours ago, JimCM said:

Not in Gaza, obviously.

 

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2585353/middle-east

 

Gaza is not the world.

Seems like Brits disagree with the Government 

16 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Seems like Brits disagree with the Government 

 

Even the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs tells lies, lol

 

 

16 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Seems like Brits disagree with the Government 

 

Absolutely nothing new there. It's happening in more and more 'democratic' countries too.

With Keir Starmer expected to make an announcement soon that the UK will recognise a Palestinian state, new YouGov data shows that public support for such a move continues to significantly outweigh opposition.

The survey, conducted on 17-18 September, finds that 44% say that the UK government should recognise Palestine as an independent state, while only 18% disagree – with 37% unsure.

 

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53016-britons-support-recognising-palestinian-statehood-by-44-to-18

 

Ipsos in the UK has released its latest polling about the Middle East, capturing concerns and perspectives among British adults regarding the ongoing conflict in Israel and Gaza. The findings reveal significant concerns about the conflict's impact and highlight public opinion on Britain's diplomatic role.

Key findings

Military operations: Half (53%) of Britons think Israel's military actions in Gaza have gone too far. Liberal Democrat (73%) and Labour (65%) 2024 voters are most likely to hold this view, while Reform UK voters (39%) are least likely.

 

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/ipsos-poll-british-attitudes-towards-conflict-israel-and-gaza

8 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

With Keir Starmer expected to make an announcement soon that the UK will recognise a Palestinian state, new YouGov data shows that public support for such a move continues to significantly outweigh opposition.

The survey, conducted on 17-18 September, finds that 44% say that the UK government should recognise Palestine as an independent state, while only 18% disagree – with 37% unsure.

 

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53016-britons-support-recognising-palestinian-statehood-by-44-to-18

 

   Anyone can vote in the Yougov polls , as usual the Left will hijack the polls and vote enmasse .

   Rather like the thumbs down emoji here on AN , you always win that because you re the only y people playing the emoji game 

 

"It also means that, because anybody can take part in the poll through the YouGov website even if they are not regular panellists, people with a particular interest in a topic may be more likely to take part, skewing the results."

 

 

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Anyone can vote in the Yougov polls , as usual the Left will hijack the polls and vote enmasse .

   Rather like the thumbs down emoji here on AN , you always win that because you re the only y people playing the emoji game 

 

"It also means that, because anybody can take part in the poll through the YouGov website even if they are not regular panellists, people with a particular interest in a topic may be more likely to take part, skewing the results."

 

 

 

OK, thanks for your incite, I'm sure you're completely wrong, not unexpected from you though.

6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

OK, thanks for your incite, I'm sure you're completely wrong, not unexpected from you though.

 

   This was taken from the Yougov website .

Are you saying that they are wrong about how they get their  poll results ?

 

"It also means that, because anybody can take part in the poll through the YouGov website even if they are not regular panellists, people with a particular interest in a topic may be more likely to take part, skewing the results.

 

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Anyone can vote in the Yougov polls , as usual the Left will hijack the polls and vote enmasse .

   Rather like the thumbs down emoji here on AN , you always win that because you re the only y people playing the emoji game 

 

"It also means that, because anybody can take part in the poll through the YouGov website even if they are not regular panellists, people with a particular interest in a topic may be more likely to take part, skewing the results."

 

 

 

People with a particular interest from BOTH sides of the debate can take part in Yougov  polls. This notion that leftists will manipulate and skew the results (while suggesting that rightists would never dream of doing that) is as unscientific and foolish as the method most of these polls use...like the Israeli one claiming to show how the British great unwashed think. Seriously?

Let's get real guys.

 

How can the Israel Ministry (of propaganda maybe) conduct a poll in the UK.

 

Israel has been caught in so many lies it's impossible to believe anything coming from Israel.

 

I suspect a British poll might be a tad more accurate.