24 minutes ago, RobKray said:

Whatever, these types of hateful posts against Islam should be outlawed on social media.

So you want me to be prosectuted for saying that Islam is a medieval and barbaric religion that is mysoginistic and murderous to other religions.

 

Guess you have "submitted" huh

12 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

I saw the video of the final shot that killed him. There was a stabbed guy bleeding out on the street (dead I think) and within the gate the attacker was on the ground and the cop shot him once after he started to get up a little. If that was America they would have unloaded the entire clip on him at the first sign of movement.

 

But it wasn't so they didn't.

Starmer has told us that we must defeat rising jewish hatred yet he is allowing Pro Palastine protest to demonstrate on UK streets.

23 minutes ago, RobKray said:

Do you really value Netanyahu’s opinion?

In the 1990s, Yitzhak Rabin came close to finalizing a peace agreement with the Palestinians, a deal that could have created a Palestinnian state. Netanyahu opposed these efforts, making public statements that rejected the two-state framework. By rejecting a negotiated settlement that was within reach, Netanyahu helped prolong the conflict and the conditions under which violence becomes conceivable.

This synagogue attack is entirely unjustifiable, but it did not exist in a vacuum. It is partly the consequence of decades of stalled negotiations and policies that denied the Palestinians a legitimate path to statehood. Netanyahu’s own rhetoric-

“Weakness in the face of terrorism only brings more terrorism. Only strength and unity can defeat it”- shows the response solely as military and security action, ignoring the political roots of the conflict that created the conditions for radicalization.

 

 

The Palestinians do not have 'a legitimate path to statehood'. Their problem is that they are neither liked nor trusted anywhere in the Middle East and are therefore stuck where they are with nowhere else to go. Having said that they should maybe try an en masse move to the UK which appears to be accepting anybody and everybody these days.

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So you want me to be prosectuted for saying that Islam is a medieval and barbaric religion that is mysoginistic and murderous to other religions.

 

Guess you have "submitted" huh

I never said that, I’d be ok if you said that to me in a pub, and I’d walk away from you. 
It’s against forum rules, I believe. 

6 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Starmer has told us that we must defeat rising jewish hatred yet he is allowing Pro Palastine protest to demonstrate on UK streets.

Do you think he should ban peaceful protest?

 

Yes there not peacefull protests there inciting hatred speach calling for death to israel. Do you think its peacefull supporting a state that is run by Terroists.

5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

The Palestinians do not have 'a legitimate path to statehood'. Their problem is that they are neither liked nor trusted anywhere in the Middle East and are therefore stuck where they are with nowhere else to go. Having said that they should maybe try an en masse move to the UK which appears to be accepting anybody and everybody these days.

Telling Palestinians to “Move to the UK” is Racist and dehumanising.

This is the kind of logic used throughout history to justify ethnic cleansing: “If you don’t like your oppression, leave.”

Palestinians are not outsiders in their homeland, they are the indigenous population of Palestine, living under foreign military rule or in exile due to it.

Suggesting they just pack up and “go to the UK”  shows you have the same colonial mindset that caused this crisis in the first place.

5 minutes ago, RobKray said:

It’s against forum rules, I believe. 

What's against forum rules? There is no rule here that one must lie.

 

1. Islam mandates submission. Democracy and Islam are mutually exclusive. Is that not the truth?

2. Islam mandates the superiority of men over women. Is that not the truth?

3. Islam mandates that one make war on the Infidel. Is that not the truth?

 

 

How is the truth hate speech?

 

Now we have to have Armed Police patroling Synagougs and jewish Schools in the UK, thanks to idiots suporting Palastine.

13 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

How is the truth hate speech?

 

When the left don't like the truth. 

 

Then it is "hate speech". 

 

Same as saying that a trans woman is biologically male. Apparently stating biological reality is hateful in Labour's Brave New World.

 

Oh, and criticism of Islam is now classified as racist (until they get their blasphemy laws through Parliament).  

19 minutes ago, RobKray said:

they are the indigenous population of Palestine,

No, they arent.

9 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Now we have to have Armed Police patroling Synagougs and jewish Schools in the UK, thanks to idiots suporting Palastine.

 

If only someone had warned us all about this.

 

18 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What's against forum rules? There is no rule here that one must lie.

 

1. Islam mandates submission. Democracy and Islam are mutually exclusive. Is that not the truth?

2. Islam mandates the superiority of men over women. Is that not the truth?

3. Islam mandates that one make war on the Infidel. Is that not the truth?

 

 

How is the truth hate speech?

 

False. Islam and democracy are not mutually exclusive -  have you ever been to Indonesia?

 

False. Islam does not mandate male superiority as a spiritual or human worth - the Qur’an stresses the spiritual equality of men and women and assigns rights and responsibilities that have been interpreted in many different ways across time and cultures. Many Muslim women lead nations, businesses, and institutions.

 

False and misleading. “Jihad”  means struggle, often a personal, moral struggle, and classical Islamic law places strict limits and clear contexts on the use of force. Extremists who claim a religious duty to attack civilians are distorting texts and ignoring the Quran, “there is no compulsion in religion.”

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

When the left don't like the truth. 

 

Then it is "hate speech". 

 

Same as saying that a trans woman is biologically male. Apparently stating biological reality is hateful in Labour's Brave New World.

 

Oh, and criticism of Islam is now classified as racist (until they get their blasphemy laws through Parliament).  

Nothing to do with politics, all religions should be respected. You don’t like Islam, based a few extremists, fair enough, but don’t spread your hate and bigoted views here. 

12 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Now we have to have Armed Police patroling Synagougs and jewish Schools in the UK, thanks to idiots suporting Palastine.

All the Jews of Britain, orthodox or just cultural need to pack up, close out their bank accounts and businesses and come to the USA where they can live free.

 

We did great when the National Socialists kicked out the Jews from Germany, nothing like having  a wave of educated, hard working, law abiding and sucessful folks.

 

16 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Now we have to have Armed Police patroling Synagougs and jewish Schools in the UK, thanks to idiots suporting Palastine.

It is probably thanks to the idiots flattening and bombing Palestine.

Give it up Robkray your deflecting from the thread. If you want to discuss the rights and wrongs of the Qur'an start a thread about it this thread is about an Attack on A Synagouge in Manchester not about Democracy or who has travelled to Indonesia.

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

All the Jews of Britain, orthodox or just cultural need to pack up, close out their bank accounts and businesses and come to the USA where they can live free.

 

We did great when the National Socialists kicked out the Jews from Germany, nothing like having  a wave of educated, hard working, law abiding and sucessful folks.

 

A wild stab in the dark, are you Jewish?

57 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

To be fair, the UK once was a fairly safe and pleasant place to live until about 25 or so years ago

 

Yeah.

But then this happened. 

 

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

So you think Israeli actions in Gaza and the west bank are irrelevant to an atrocity like this?

 

They aren't irrelevant.  The Israeli actions in Gaza are a response to the same Islamist hatred of Jews that fueled the attack on the Manchester synagogue.

28 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What's against forum rules? There is no rule here that one must lie.

 

1. Islam mandates submission. Democracy and Islam are mutually exclusive. Is that not the truth?

2. Islam mandates the superiority of men over women. Is that not the truth?

3. Islam mandates that one make war on the Infidel. Is that not the truth?

 

 

How is the truth hate speech?

 

 

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

Give it up Robkray your deflecting from the thread. If you want to discuss the rights and wrongs of the Qur'an start a thread about it this thread is about an Attack on A Synagouge in Manchester not about Democracy or who has travelled to Indonesia.

So false posts like Yagodas, which I was calling out should not be replied to?
 

Thank god here in the UK we dont have an Assault rifle under the stairs like the Americans. If we did this idiot can have run Amok inside or shot the Congreagation through the Windows of the Synagouge.

5 minutes ago, RobKray said:

False. Islam and democracy are not mutually exclusive -  have you ever been to Indonesia?

 

False. Islam does not mandate male superiority as a spiritual or human worth - the Qur’an stresses the spiritual equality of men and women and assigns rights and responsibilities that have been interpreted in many different ways across time and cultures. Many Muslim women lead nations, businesses, and institutions.

 

False and misleading. “Jihad”  means struggle, often a personal, moral struggle, and classical Islamic law places strict limits and clear contexts on the use of force. Extremists who claim a religious duty to attack civilians are distorting texts and ignoring the Quran, “there is no compulsion in religion.”

LOL. OK Koranic scholar.

Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2926

 

I can find stuff about Christians too.  Hey what happens if they catch two dudes playing happy games in a stall in Tehran? Toss them off a building.

 

Islam needs a modernization.

2 minutes ago, RobKray said:

 

So false posts like Yagodas, which I was calling out should not be replied to?
 

Everyone has an opinion Rob some members go off on a diff direction but you shouldnt deflect from the Thread otherwise its lost.

1 minute ago, RobKray said:

Nothing to do with politics, all religions should be respected.

 

Respect is earned. It cannot be mandated or forced. It cannot be legislated for. People are free to respect or not respect anything they like. 

 

1 minute ago, RobKray said:

 

You don’t like Islam, based a few extremists, fair enough, but don’t spread your hate and bigoted views here. 

 

It's terrorists that kill innocent people that I dislike.

 

You keep mentioning my hate and bigoted views but when asked to quote a post where I have expressed these views, you always disappear.  😄  

7 minutes ago, RobKray said:

A wild stab in the dark, are you Jewish?

Naw Im not that advanced. 

 

A wild stab in the dark, are you a Muslim? How about National Socialist? How about just Socialist?

 

 

9 minutes ago, RobKray said:

A wild stab in the dark, are you Jewish?

 

A bit insensitive given the topic of the thread?

 

Or do you consider such a pun amusing?

1 hour ago, RobKray said:

I understand why you are embarrassed to answer my question.

 

   Me embarrassed to answer your question ?

I had already answered it in the post that you replied to .

I had already given the answer

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

LOL. OK Koranic scholar.

Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2926

 

I can find stuff about Christians too.  Hey what happens if they catch two dudes playing happy games in a stall in Tehran? Toss them off a building.

 

Islam needs a modernization.

I could find many similar things in your holy book.

 

Deuteronomy 7:1–2 (NIV)

1 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girga<deleted>es, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you—
2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.