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Synagogue Stabbing Shocks Manchester: Four Injured on Yom Kippur

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@Jingthing Shall we compare where we read for when it comes to intellect? IQ test results? Which parameters would you prefer?

All you have is cheap, veiled insults. You are just disgusting. You cannot prevail in a discussion, so you try to provoke with insults.

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    But, but..river to the sea...genocide...blah blah...dribble dribble. Religion of peace strikes again. Poor United Kingdom....what have you done. Enoch Powell's prediction are coming to fruit

  • Nonsense. A result of Israeli actions in Gaza seems more likely.

  • There you have Hamas answer to the piece plan, 

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12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sheeple?

We've got a live one. 

 

It is a truth universally acknowledged that anyone who uses the term "sheeple" to describe those with whom he disagrees - is a deluded conspiracy theory addict.It applies across the board in almost every field.

4 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Jingthing Shall we compare where we read for when it comes to intellect? IQ test results? Which parameters would you prefer?

All you have is cheap, veiled insults. You are just disgusting. You cannot prevail in a discussion, so you try to provoke with insults.

I have failed then. I was going for rich and obvious insults.

@Jingthing Yes, you failed on that level. But succeeded in becoming even more nauseating. I think we our dialogue has ended.

5 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Jingthing Yes, you failed on that level. But succeeded in becoming even more nauseating. I think we our dialogue has ended.

With pleasure. 

But I want to emphasize that when directly asked what your "fair" vision of "justice" for Isreali Jews and the fate of the nation of Israel you totally dodged the question.

That tells readers everything they need to know about where you're coming from. 

Also I want to emphasize that in my personal experience people who call other people "sheeple" are deeply lacking in the grey matter department. 

'Just heard on BBC, that two of the victims were hit by Police bullets, through the door of the Synagogue.

Doesn't say if they were dead or not.

30 minutes ago, JakeC said:

I went to school.

 

7 minutes ago, JakeC said:

. I think we our dialogue has ended.

 

  Didn't you go to secondary school ?

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Come on Guy's dont bring an Attack in Manchester into an American thread can we please stick to the Thread or it will be back  to Trump, Biden, nonsense. It only needs a trigger for the magas on here to jump the gun and ruin a good thread. 

The left in the US want to make everything about them. 

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

With pleasure. 

But I want to emphasize that when directly asked what your "fair" vision of "justice" for Isreali Jews and the fate of the nation of Israel you totally dodged the question.

That tells readers everything they need to know about where you're coming from. 

Also I want to emphasize that in my personal experience people who call other people "sheeple" are deeply lacking in the grey matter department. 

Your side like calling people sheeple.

@Nick Carter icp Grammar and University? Why? Was that your attempt at trying to be funny?

You lot are falling flat on your faces today. You should stop before you drag yourselves down even further.

2 minutes ago, Fact said:

Your side like calling people sheeple.

I'm not a side.

Just now, JakeC said:

I also made it clear that if you/they don't care about the Palestinians, then I don't care about you/they.

 What is We/US don't care about the Palestinians?

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@Fact

@Fact I'm stating that whoever doesn't care about the plight of the people doesn't deserve to be cared about themselves..

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Just now, JakeC said:

@Fact I'm stating that whoever doesn't care about the plight of the people doesn't deserve to be cared about themselves..

How much do you care about the starving people in Africa? I'd wager not much, since no one ever talks about They/them like they do about the people in Gaza, who bring their problems on They/Themselves.

@Fact How much would you like to place on that wager? Shall we start as 500,000 baht?

Are you willing to put your money in place of your big mouth? I will donate every single baht of those winnings to starving children.

 

2 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Fact How much would you like to place on that wager? Shall we start as 500,000 baht?

Are you willing to put your money in place of your big mouth? I will donate every single baht of those winnings to starving children.

 

How do we measure caring so much about him/her? 

16 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Jingthing I think that I made myself clear. But obviously you need me to repeat it in order for it to penetrate your skull.

 

My words were that I am not trying to solve the problems of the world.

I take care of my immediate surroundings, family and friends.

 

I also made it clear that if you/they don't care about the Palestinians, then I don't care about you/they. That's clear isn't it? I don't need some weak willed moron to put words in my mouth and tell me what I should think. I already told you. If you are too slow to understand, what can I do about it?

Now, again, I think we have concluded our conversation.

You simply are not intelligent nor witty enough to provide sufficient stimulation for me to want to continue.

Again, you deflected from answering a direct question. 

So that leaves readers to conclude the obvious.

Yikes, remind me never to call UK keystone cops when I need protection from violence. 

 

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4 hours ago, JakeC said:

@Evil Penevil It's galling to read the hypocritical nonsense of collectively holding jews responsible, when that is exactly what most of them they do here on this board. Holding all Palestinians responsible for HAMAS.

We all know of the collective punishment of the Palestinians for decades by the Israeli jews.

 

Slowly now, so you understand.  Jews are linked to each other by religious tradition and practice but NOT by a conspiracy theory about domination of non-Jews.  The Jews  who were attacked and murdered in Manchester bore no responsibility for the actions of the Israeli government.  They may have even opposed Israel and Zionism.   It's the most blatant form of antisemitism if Jews in the UK were targeted because of the  Israeli government's actions in the Gaza conflict.

 

I don't believe for a second Israel holds Palestinians collectively responsible for the actions of Hamas and other terrorists.  About 21%, or 2.1 million people, of Israel's  total population are Arabs of Palestinian descent.  They have full Israeli citizenship and a high standard of living.  Israel is clearly not holding them collectively responsible for anything  but being good citizens.

 

The situation with Palestinians living in Gaza is very different.  The high number of non-combatant casualties is caused in part by  the inherent nature of warfare in a crowded urban environment, but mostly because Hamas hides among non-combatants and uses them as human shields.  I am well aware you and some other AN members don't agree with me on this point.

 

No hypocrisy is involved.  The facts and situations are very different regarding the collective responsibilities of Jews vs Palestinian Arabs, hence the responses I make will reflect this difference.

 

4 hours ago, JakeC said:

Where are your indignant posts about that? 

 

No indignant posts from me because I don't believe Israel is holding Palestinians collectively responsible for the terrorist attacks of Hamas, in line with what I wrote above.

An update and summary of the synagogue attack.

 

What we know about Manchester synagogue attack

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd63p1djgd7o

 

Two Jewish people have died in a car ramming and stabbing attack at a synagogue in Manchester.

A member of the public called police at 09:31 BST to say he had witnessed a car being driven towards members of the public near Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue on Middleton Road in Crumpsall, and also that one man had been stabbed.

GMP said firearms officers were deployed to the scene at 09:34. Meanwhile, police continued to receive further reports from members of the public that a security guard had been attacked with a knife.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yvzp070vgo

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The use of the silly word sheeple does not indicate a strong independent intellect.

Board Jews or bored Jews?

How many times have you used bigly?

That's one of the most silly words I have ever heard.

3 hours ago, KannikaP said:

'Just heard on BBC, that two of the victims were hit by Police bullets, through the door of the Synagogue.

Doesn't say if they were dead or not.

BBC true to form.

2 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

BBC true to form.

Another BBC update:

One of victims killed in synagogue attack and one of those injured were hit by police gunfire

 

One of the victims killed in the synagogue attack on Thursday was hit by police gunfire as officers shot the attacker, Greater Manchester Police say

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2703lnww4t

 

Manchester police's update at a glance

  • One of the two people killed appeared to have "suffered a wound consistent with a gunshot injury" - Watson doesn't say whether this was the cause of death
  • Another of the three victims currently in hospital also "suffered a gunshot wound", but this is "not life-threatening"
  • Both victims of the gunshot wounds were believed to have been "close together behind the synagogue door"

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2703lnww4t

6 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Another BBC update:

One of victims killed in synagogue attack and one of those injured were hit by police gunfire

 

One of the victims killed in the synagogue attack on Thursday was hit by police gunfire as officers shot the attacker, Greater Manchester Police say

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2703lnww4t

 

Manchester police's update at a glance

  • One of the two people killed appeared to have "suffered a wound consistent with a gunshot injury" - Watson doesn't say whether this was the cause of death
  • Another of the three victims currently in hospital also "suffered a gunshot wound", but this is "not life-threatening"
  • Both victims of the gunshot wounds were believed to have been "close together behind the synagogue door"

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2703lnww4t

No idea but my feeling is the BBC is not exactly unbiased in their reporting.

hardly surprising. Israel is doing wonders for anti-semites

4 minutes ago, malibukid said:

hardly surprising. Israel is doing wonders for anti-semites

 

Whatever the Israeli government and IDF do in no way justifies attacks on Jews in the UK.

9 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Whatever the Israeli government and IDF do in no way justifies attacks on Jews in the UK.

The very existence of Israel and the Jews is sufficient justification in the eyes of the the Islamic crazies.

It will never stop until one or the other cease to exist.

For the rest of us it is probably too late to end the Islamic invasion. Only countries like Japan will survive this as they do not allow Muslim immigrants.

The other option is what China uses. The Uyghur solution

Or of course..war.

I suspect this will be the outcome.

4 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

The very existence of Israel and the Jews is sufficient justification in the eyes of the the Islamic crazies.

It will never stop until one or the other cease to exist.

 

Yes, the religious beliefs  and whole thought-worlds of the Islamist groups like Hamas are built on hatred of Jews.  They will never agree to live peacefully with Jews.

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