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Why are so many people Pro Palestine

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6 minutes ago, JimCM said:

No, I wondered why the women don’t dance with the men.

 

 

 

 

What was the point of that?

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2 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Can you speak fluent Palestinian?

Read the OP.

I don’t live palestine.

Just now, emptypockets said:

What was the point of that?

Celebration, but not sure the relevance of Pepsi bottles on their heads.

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Don't believe that Palestinian propaganda .

Israel could have killed EVERY Palestinian  by sunset on Oct 7 2023 if Israel wanted to .

   Do you really believe Israel wants to kill ALL Palestinians ?

 

I know, and we may have forgiven them after seeing real Oct 7 footage.

 

However, Israel knows it needs to act in a way that will not turn it into an Untouchable among nations. So the genocide has to be packaged in righteous "self defence". Much like the narrative with the Indians in North America.

 

I don't think Israel really wants to kill all Palestinians but I think the Israeli leadership wants to completely eradicate Hamas and it knows that killing Palestinian civilians will help it do that on many occasions and they do not care whether they do or not. And this view of the Israeli leadership is also held by most Israelis. Not all, because we all know that there are also incredibly decent :Israelis who speak up for Palestinians. Not all :Israelis are evil or support evil. Some are truly noble.

 

The reason why the Israeli leadership is going so close to genocide, is because of fear, of course. Israelis fear the revenge of the victims they stole from, imprisoned and killed the children of. And that fear is more than justified. I understand that. However, for a Palestinian, what option does he have? He can only fight. He has no other viable or realistic option.

7 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

What genocide? 

In Palestine? Not happening. Casualties of war doesn't equate to genocide.

So you disagree with 140+ humanitarian agencies? lol 

 

 

Amnesty International’s research has found sufficient basis to conclude that Israel has committed and is continuing to commit genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip, the organization said in a landmark new report published today.  

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

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21 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Neither muslims nor jews seem to be great champions of womens' rights. Not that they should be, or I think any less of them for it, but I'm just saying. That's one thing I like about about both jews and muslims

Wow. 

A woman hater shows his true colours.

Go to the top of the class.

I'm impressed.

3 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Wow. 

A woman hater shows his true colours.

Go to the top of the class.

I'm impressed.

 

I don't hate women at all. I love women, if they're under 48 years old. I just don't think men need to be champions of feminist rights. And in this regard both Jews and Muslims have a lot of common sense, we Christians have lost.

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3 minutes ago, JimCM said:

So you disagree with 140+ humanitarian agencies? lol 

 

 

Amnesty International’s research has found sufficient basis to conclude that Israel has committed and is continuing to commit genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip, the organization said in a landmark new report published today.  

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

Yes, next question.

3 minutes ago, JimCM said:

So you disagree with 140+ humanitarian agencies? lol 

 

 

Amnesty International’s research has found sufficient basis to conclude that Israel has committed and is continuing to commit genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip, the organization said in a landmark new report published today.  

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

All of them leftist funded

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3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't hate women at all. I love women. I just don't think men need to be champions of feminist rights. And in this regard both Jews and Muslims have a lot of common sense, we Christians have lost.

This is what you said.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I know, and we may have forgiven them after seeing real Oct 7 footage.

We never saw footage of what Israel did on May 2023.

 

Top Israeli officials criminally liable for knowingly ordering strike expected to harm civilians, including children, in the Gaza Strip

 

https://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/20230614_top_israeli_officials_criminally_liable_for_knowingly_ordering_strike_expected_to_harm_civilians_including_children_in_the_gaza_strip

 
 

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't hate women at all. I love women, if they're under 48 years old. I just don't think men need to be champions of feminist rights. And in this regard both Jews and Muslims have a lot of common sense, we Christians have lost.

Jews and muslims cant be compared on their beliefs about women. Arab countries will always be backwards for that reason

4 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Yes, next question.

Why? Is it because of your religion?

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1 minute ago, JimCM said:

Why? Is it because of your religion?

Non believer.

Why do you ask?

3 minutes ago, angryguy said:

Jews and muslims cant be compared on their beliefs about women. Arab countries will always be backwards for that reason

Specific forms of sexual and gender-based violence – such as forced public stripping and nudity, sexual harassment including threats of rape, as well as sexual assault – comprise part of the Israeli Security Forces’ standard operating procedures toward Palestinians. 

Other forms of sexual and gender-based violence, including rape and violence to the genitals, were committed either under explicit orders or with implicit encouragement by Israel’s top civilian and military leadership, the report said. 
 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

4 minutes ago, JimCM said:

We never saw footage of what Israel did on May 2023.

 

Top Israeli officials criminally liable for knowingly ordering strike expected to harm civilians, including children, in the Gaza Strip

 

https://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/20230614_top_israeli_officials_criminally_liable_for_knowingly_ordering_strike_expected_to_harm_civilians_including_children_in_the_gaza_strip

 
 

 

 

I know, Israel has perpetrated many October 7ths over decades and there was hardly any notice taken.

8 minutes ago, angryguy said:

Jews and muslims cant be compared on their beliefs about women. Arab countries will always be backwards for that reason

 

Oh yes they can, jews and muslims hold extremely similar views on women. They compare very well.

 

Both Jewish and Islamic traditions emphasize female modesty through head and body coverings, promote the concept of a patriarchal family structure with men as guardians

 

Beyond head coverings, both faiths promote modest dress for women, including long, loose-fitting clothing.

 
Both religions encourage or require married women to cover their hair as a form of modesty, with Jewish women sometimes wearing a scarf and Muslim women wearing a hijab.
 
Traditional religious law in both Judaism and Islam places a strong emphasis on the patriarchal family, where men serve as the head of the household and provide guardianship for women. 
 
Both Judaism and Islam regard their holy books—the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) and the Qur'an—as the word of God, which contains gender-related norms and narratives

 

If you claim Arab countries are backwards because of how they treat women, then the segregated buses in Israel, the divorce laws in Jewish religion, we'll you'd have to view Israel backward as well then.

2 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Non believer.

Why do you ask?

Why on earth would you disagree with all the major humanitarian organisations?
 

1 minute ago, JimCM said:

 

Specific forms of sexual and gender-based violence – such as forced public stripping and nudity, sexual harassment including threats of rape, as well as sexual assault – comprise part of the Israeli Security Forces’ standard operating procedures toward Palestinians. 

Other forms of sexual and gender-based violence, including rape and violence to the genitals, were committed either under explicit orders or with implicit encouragement by Israel’s top civilian and military leadership, the report said. 
 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

This experiment that europe is doing will go horribly wrong. Muslims aren’t compatible with the west

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7 minutes ago, JimCM said:

 

Specific forms of sexual and gender-based violence – such as forced public stripping and nudity, sexual harassment including threats of rape, as well as sexual assault – comprise part of the Israeli Security Forces’ standard operating procedures toward Palestinians. 

Other forms of sexual and gender-based violence, including rape and violence to the genitals, were committed either under explicit orders or with implicit encouragement by Israel’s top civilian and military leadership, the report said. 
 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

Pretty standard in Muslim countries. What's your point?

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2 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Why on earth would you disagree with all the major humanitarian organisations?
 

Follow the money. And don't believe everything you read. It's all opinion.

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3 minutes ago, angryguy said:

This experiment that europe is doing will go horribly wrong. Muslims aren’t compatible with the west

At the most basic, they hate us.

World domination is the goal.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I know, Israel has perpetrated many October 7ths over decades and there was hardly any notice taken.

One law for Israel and another for Palestinians.

Well Israel are above the law.

 

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I know, Israel has perpetrated many October 7ths over decades and there was hardly any notice taken.

Don’t forget the hostages in Israeli jails, including children, they call them administrative detainees.

All true, Jim.

 

And it's not just Palestinians. Israeli law doesn't work for Americans either. 

 

The parents of Rachel Corrie were told the IDF bulldozing their daughter and killing her was not negligence.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-19391814

 

Israel must be the only democracy in the world where the army can bulldoze and kill people, and you can't even get them for negligence.

 

Some justice system.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

I was rather shocked that the Oct 7 videos showed that Israel had built a literal wall to imprison those who live in Gaza . There is clearly a blockade of Gaza in place, and it was was in place before Oct 7.

 

Of course some acts that residents of Gaza pepetrated are evil for those of us who are neither jewish or muslim, there is no question about it. And even the theft of land, killing of women and children, which the IDF engaged in prior to Oct 7, all the injustices Israel has inflicted on Gaza, none of it can excuse what was done on Oct  7. But it does explain it, sadly.

 

However, when one looks at the settlers, their primitive stone-age religious views, it is extremely hard to have sympathy for Israel. Not just because of the land they steal and how they harras the local Palestinians, but because of who they are, what they believe. It is truly repulsive. For those of us, like I say who are not Jewish. I realise of course that morality is perspective.

 

There was a fence between Gaza and Israel. Gazan militants made regular attempts to breach the fence. Israel had every right to secure its border from infiltration by enemy forces.

 

You falsely claim Israel stole Gaza land. Where and what land? Israel pulled out of Gaza long ago. There were no Israeli settlers in Gaza. You are inconsistent with your lies. In one sentence you claim israel walled Gaza in, and in the next you say that israel harassed local palestinian arabs. How could that have been done if there was a  border that separated Gaza and Israel and there were no Israelis living in Gaza?

 

I am not surprised that you offer these false claims, since you were recently blaming Poland and the Baltic states for WWII. 

6 hours ago, emptypockets said:

What genocide? 

In Palestine? Not happening. Casualties of war doesn't equate to genocide.

There was no terrorist attack on October 7.

Those 1,200 killed were just casualties of war.

Holocaust? No. Just WW2 casualties 

48 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

There was no terrorist attack on October 7.

Those 1,200 killed were just casualties of war.

Holocaust? No. Just WW2 casualties 

 

It takes a special kind of intentional ignorance to reach these conclusions.

22 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

It takes a special kind of intentional ignorance to reach these conclusions.

I would call it mental illness

Because the killing  and general destruction in Gaza carried out by the Israeli government is way over the top. It's not hatred of Jews but the government. Even Israeli civilian population are in in disagreement with the IDF actions. Netanyahu is only out for himself, politics damn politics.

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