10 hours ago, JimCM said:

 

Loved hearing your beloved Norm dance around the turd for nearly an hour. When asked, "what should Israel have done in response to October 7?", he starts maundering on about American slave rebellions.  He filibusters rather than answers.

 

As to your question, "the resistance" lost. 

13 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Loved hearing your beloved Norm dance around the turd for nearly an hour. When asked, "what should Israel have done in response to October 7?", he starts maundering on about American slave rebellions.  He filibusters rather than answers.

 

As to your question, "the resistance" lost. 

Who you support Daniella Wei’s? Is resistance against her ethnic cleansing right?

 

On 10/16/2025 at 10:31 AM, JimCM said:

Who you support Daniella Wei’s? Is resistance against her ethnic cleansing right?

 

I wonder why you don’t reply @Hanaguma 

It could only mean you see nothing wrong with this ‘woman’.

I personally think the Palestinians have won or at least their cause has won.

 

Because for the first time in history at least a little part of the ugly truth has been revealed.

 

I was never much interested in politics and as a German born in the 60ies I was taught at school that Jewish people had been pushed around, treated badly and sometimes killed for many centuries with the worst crimes against Jews being committed by us in the Holocaust therefore we have a lifelong duty that such a thing will never happen again – ever.

 

After the Holocaust Jews from all over the world moved to the Middle East where their ancestors had been living and finally a people without a land found a land without a people, created Israel, build their Kibbutzim and lived in peace and harmony.

 

Occasionally, I heard about some conflict between Israel and neighboring countries, and I always asked myself why they cannot just leave Israel alone.

 

The version of the world I grew up with , were we, the West, including Israel are the goodies, while the baddies in the East, were living miserable lives due to their communism and were later replaced by the radical Muslims who were even more miserable and hated us for our freedoms and justice, started having it`s first cracks when we went to war with Iraq, killing more than a Million, while looking for weapons of mass destruction which we knew, Saddam did not have and even if, would never pose a threat to us.

 

A few years later there were news about the IDF attacking boats of a flotilla carrying humanitarian aid and even killing 9 people on international waters.

 

I am not sure what shocked me more, the deadly attack itself or the fact that our media and politicians were siding with Israel.

 

I also noticed that people would react almost aggressively when a discussion came up and I dared to criticize Israel for the illegal attack on international waters. Nobody would engage in a discussion; everybody would just shout me down with the usual slogans: “Israel has the right  to defend itself. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. Blabla”.

 

But to be honest it was because of the different forums and the way some pro-Israel members tried to silence the few pro Palestine members, that I really started to educate myself and finally come to a personal opinion based on the facts I learned and my support for equal justice, which can never be double standard.

 

And one thing is more than clear: for the first time since the creation of Israel practically the whole world took notice of it and realized what it truly is and things you have seen like the atrocities committed by the IDF and the 10s of thousands of dead children and many other things can never be unseen.

 

The world has seen the actions of Israel and at the same time has heard the ridiculous arguments, with which Israel kept trying to justify their atrocities and realized the lies we have been brainwashed with by our leaders and our media for such a long time, and how Israel controls our media and our leaders.

 

Those of us who understand the gravity and the future impact on our society, if we allow our countries to be ruled by a foreign entity, which also corrupts our basic morals, principles and laws and our sense for right and wrong and justice, are in shock but will sooner or later act for example by not voting for any candidate who has ever taken money from AIPAC or by demanding AIPAC to be registered according to FARA and many other steps like questioning the Billions send to Israel very year.

 

Yet those of us who are too comfortable to step out of their echo chamber and still leave the thinking to others, who mainly present a very easy picture of the world, where we and our allies are the good and the rest of the world are the bad, especially when they are having beards and dark hair, will keep defending that state which is sucking our finances dry, which is much more of a parasite than a symbiont and controls our leaders.

 

The Arabs have definitely won the propaganda war.

 

 

I`ve seen a few clips from him on YouTube. He is a bright young mind gymnast with an innocent face who perfectly combines accusations with slogans and adds some facts to prove them.

 

"The whole protest movement is not about Palestine, it’s about the protesters themselves. They don’t want to understand the conflict — they want to feel good about themselves."

 

How do you know the psyche of the protesters? Maybe it is you who doesn't want to understand the protests because they are against the mass murder of Palestinians, an ugly truth you refuse to accept and are in a constant state of denial.

 

“They are a hate movement and part of a century old movement - the anti-Zionist movement that has always used libels to demonize Jews.” 

 

I doubt that any of those students ever saw himself as part of an ancient anti-Jewish movement. This sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me.

 

“You can see the hatred in every move they make.  Even now. They called for a ceasefire - and when there is a ceasefire, the violent demonstrations  continue,  and Jews are attacked and murdered.”

 

The reason they keep demonstrating even in case of a ceasefire is not hatred but simply the fact that a ceasefire is not their only goal and that they want Israel to stop murdering Palestinians permanently.

 

There have been a few violent clashes between pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian demonstrators but as far as I know the only 2 Jews who almost have been murdered were shot at 17 times by another Jew, Mordechai Brafman, 27, in Miami who thought they were Arabs.

 

“But by accusing Israel of the gravest  imaginable crimes — genocide, apartheid and ethnic cleansing — they make it easier to ignore the real crimes of the Palestinians the absence of democracy, freedom of speech,  and freedom of religion.”

 

Perfect example of blame shifting: Israel is only accused of genocide, apartheid and ethnic cleansing but the real crimes are happening in Palestine because there is no democracy and no freedom of speech or religion.

 

Israel is not only accused for that, almost every human rights organization plus the International Association of Genocide Scholars have said that Israel is de facto committing all these crimes.

 

But of course, these accusations are not made because they are true, no they are only made to distract from the real crimes in Palestine - what a crap.

 

“During the war in Gaza, terrible things happened around the world. In Syria and Yemen, children are literally dying of hunger.  Jihadist militias in Africa are slaughtering tens of thousands of Christians. There’s mass  killing in Sudan. Every example I’ve given is many times larger than what happened in Gaza  — but nobody cares.”

 

And why is that? Are our countries supporting the killers in Sudan or the jihadists in Africa? Do those murderers have unregistered lobby organizations in our countries who are bribing our politicians and our governments? Do those jihadists destroy our freedom of speech and make our juristic system deport people just because they were against the killing of children? Were those Tens of thousands of Christians murdered by weapons from our countries? Do those jihadists turn our moral compass upside down so that we see ethnic cleansing and the murder of 20.000 children as self-defense?

 

But this guy has his own explanation for this phenomenon:

 

“Because again, it’s not about Israel and it’s not about the Palestinians —  it’s about the protesters’ emotions: their anger, their guilt, their inner conflicts.”

 

No, those protests have nothing to do with the ongoing slaughter of women, children, men, journalists, medics, the destruction of almost every building, the execution of help workers and the target practice with kids.

 

It`s just because those protesters are “ding dong” as they say in Thailand.

 

What a magnificent diagnosis.