7 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

That's exactly what's happening here. You are so used to being controlling and fly into a rage when because you are impotent. Another trait you share...

If I was impotent how did I help create 6 children? Again speaking from your arse. And again too ignorant to understand you were never in one day of my life, so your assuming is you making an ASSume of yourself. The only thing we know about your life is that you're exaggerate your worth to women. From what we see here, you are likely a loner who has little to no friends, and likely a controlling person also, as you don't like being called out on your blatantly obvious trolling behavior.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I saw what you did yesterday with him. The same thing you do to most everyone here when they confront you or try to state a personal observation. You think you know what's going on in other's lives you never met. You don't, but are quick to assume. And when they state something you don't like, you turn whatever they say against them, which is abnormal behavior.

What did you see? Did you see me abuse or make hateful comments? Ironic that you suggest that him making personal observations is okay, but when I make them about he or you, you freak out 😊

2 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

This helping others thing is just nonsense. I've not ever seen you on any other threads offering advice on anything other than talking about yourself and covert narcissists. Always claiming to be the best and the most experienced. It's just so ridiculous. 😊

Then try looking and shutting up for a change. Again, I've never said i was the best in anything. That I know a lot more than you do in topics we've been in is obvious. Yes, you are ridiculous.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

If I was impotent how did I help create 6 children? Again speaking from your arse. And again too ignorant to understand you were never in one day of my life, so your assuming is you making an ASSume of yourself. The only thing we know about your life is that you're exaggerate your worth to women. From what we see here, you are likely a loner who has little to no friends, and likely a controlling person also, as you don't like being called out on your blatantly obvious trolling behavior.

I think you need to look up the meaning of impotent rage and then come back to the conversation.

We know to save face that you are going to pretend to have known the meaning all along. That's part of your character.

That's a personal observation. 😊 No name calling, just a personal observation. See the difference?

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

What did you see? Did you see me abuse or make hateful comments? Ironic that you suggest that him making personal observations is okay, but when I make them about he or you, you freak out 😊

Pointing out your trolling is hardly freaking out. That comment has me believe it's rather your behavior, as your kind always deflects and gaslights, trying to escape the childhood trauma you experienced. Turning it on all others, along with trying to act superior when you have so many shortcomings it's laughable.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Pointing out your trolling is hardly freaking out. That comment has me believe it's rather your behavior, as your kind always deflects and gaslights, trying to escape the childhood trauma you experienced. Turning it on all others, along with trying to act superior when you have so many shortcomings it's laughable.

Anyway...I don't want to get involved in another of your posting frenzies. So I'll leave it there. You are welcome to keep on ranting if you like.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

I think you need to look up the meaning of impotent rage and then come back to the conversation.

We know to save face that you are going to pretend to have known the meaning all along. That's part of your character.

That's a personal observation. 😊 No name calling, just a personal observation. See the difference?

No, just another assumption on your part. And I'm hardly angry, as it's just suffering the fools. I'm done with you, as I've spent enough time making you look the petulant fool and wasted other's time here defending the truth once again. Go troll elsewhere.

15 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I am not going to tailor whatever I write for every individual. Some are going to be upset by my words no matter how I write it. You are just going to have to get over it. Deal with yourself.

There is no war. That's again in your imagination. We were having a normal discussion yesterday, until something triggered you. Are you self reflective enough to go back to look at what happened and why it went wrong?

At the end, your opinion belongs to you only, you own it, so why continue reminding yourself endlessly ?

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

At the end, your opinion belongs to you only, you own it, so why continue reminding yourself endlessly ?

Is that a question for me or you?

I don't really understand the question nor the point of the question, but hopefully my reply will cover it.

It's a discussion forum, full of opinions. That's what we do here. Some are happy to criticise others, but when it's their turn, they seem to be a little thin-skinned. Prone to hysterical outbursts full of abuse.

I don't mind criticism if it's neutral and honest. But yourself and freddie have proven to be more than a little bitter and somewhat stuck in the past. You do not practice what you preach.

It's no surprise to me that you didn't take up the offer to investigate what triggered you yesterday, taking a normal conversation between us into sniping from your side.

I think I know why that is, because you demonstrate that behaviour regularly. It's your disbelieving mindset. Just as you cannot bring yourself to believe @Cameroni somewhere along the line, you create a scenario in your mind that isn't happening. You make yourself feel cornered and you come out fighting. Changes the whole landscape of the conversation.

You see? No abuse or name calling. Just genuine observation.

Just now, IsmeUno said:

Is that a question for me or you?

I don't really understand the question nor the point of the question, but hopefully my reply will cover it.

It's a discussion forum, full of opinions. That's what we do here. Some are happy to criticise others, but when it's their turn, they seem to be a little thin-skinned. Prone to hysterical outbursts full of abuse.

I don't mind criticism if it's neutral and honest. But yourself and freddie have proven to be more than a little bitter and somewhat stuck in the past. You do not practice what you preach.

When things repeats itself in thread after thread, it becomes boring and annoying. We call that mental stagnation

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

When things repeats itself in thread after thread, it becomes boring and annoying. We call that mental stagnation

But you are part of that. You have the choice of keeping it a shared dialogue or turning it into a slanging match. Go back and see where it changed. That way we both get to see what happened and perhaps change it. But if you keep acting the victim and pretending that it's all one-sided, you cannot grow nor change (Another trait you and freddie share). You'll just keep repeating the same behaviour and keep blaming something other than yourself for it.

But it's mainly just you and fred, isn't it?

4 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

But you are part of that. You have the choice of keeping it a shared dialogue or turning it into a slanging match. Go back and see where it changed. That way we both get to see what happened and perhaps change it. But if you keep acting the victim and pretending that it's all one-sided, you cannot grow nor change (Another trait you and freddie share). You'll just keep repeating the same behaviour and keep blaming something other than yourself for it.

But it's mainly just you and fred, isn't it?

You continue talking about others to grow, but where is your responsibility to grow as well ? Learn from where the dialogue changes, and please remind me, because the most abusive posts dissapeared in the night

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You continue talking about others to grow, but where is your responsibility to grow as well ? Learn from where the dialogue changes, and please remind me, because the most abusive posts dissapeared in the night

I am also growing. You don't notice it because you are mad. Literally every time, you try to deflect rather than to confront yourself.

So any normal conversation we have goes the same way because you cannot control your mind. You start thinking that I must be attacking you(or whatever goes on in your mind) and your behaviour changes.

But at least you try to have a conversation beforehand. Whereas freddie is in his own world. He cannot have conversation. He can only orate. Anyone who has another perspective is treated to long winded rants and worse.

Just now, IsmeUno said:

I am also growing. You don't notice it because you are mad. Literally every time, you try to deflect rather than to confront yourself.

So any normal conversation we have goes the same way because you cannot control your mind. You start thinking that I must be attacking you(or whatever goes on in your mind) and your behaviour changes.

But at least you try to have a conversation beforehand. Whereas freddie is in his own world. He cannot have conversation. He can only orate. Anyone who has another perspective is treated to long winded rants and worse.

you see, I stop reading when you start ranting, and now I stopped at Mad, you claim Im mad, and that is solely in your head only, and thats where the problem lays. Your imagination of other people.

Now try again, and try to keep me reading to the end this time. Im not wasting time on rants like that. It is saturday, and soon finished todays exercise, Im in a good mood, going to have a date with my wife, and a few glass or red wine, so be nice, and I might read your reply, and answer you in a polite way.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

you see, I stop reading when you start ranting, and now I stopped at Mad, you claim Im mad, and that is solely in your head only, and thats where the problem lays. Your imagination of other people.

Now try again, and try to keep me reading to the end this time. Im not wasting time on rants like that. It is saturday, and soon finished todays exercise, Im in a good mood, going to have a date with my wife, and a few glass or red wine, so be nice, and I might read your reply, and answer you in a polite way.

Mad, as in angry. You cannot even finish reading because you are so uptight and imagine the worst. But nothing I wrote is 'bad'. But you see it as a "rant" 😊

We obviously have a quite different definition of 'rant'. That is a perfect demonstration of how it isn't possible to protect the sensitivities of everyone when posting. There are always going to be hypersensitive individuals.

You want me to be responsible for your moods and sensitivities. That's just ridiculous, don't you think? Are you a little child?

16 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Mad, as in angry.

Mad as in Mad as a Hatter.

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

Im in a good mood, going to have a date with my wife, and a few glass or red wine

How was your date? I'm just back from mine. I didn't need to take any money with me, as my girl was happy to take care of it.

Sharing is so much nicer than trying to carry the world on your shoulders all by yourself.

7 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

How was your date? I'm just back from mine. I didn't need to take any money with me, as my girl was happy to take care of it.

Sharing is so much nicer than trying to carry the world on your shoulders all by yourself.

Where did she take you?

2 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Where did she take you?

We went to a local restaurant 😊 and then stopped at a roadside place for a couple of coconuts each.

9 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

We went to a local restaurant 😊 and then stopped at a roadside place for a couple of coconuts each.

👍

It's been a bit quiet, but something just occurred to me. That poor sap that got decapitated in Bali thanks to his girlfriend. Does she not look a bit familiar?

Three options are:

It's going badly - he'd likely be shouting it from the rooftops if it was a huge success. The experiment failed.

It's going well - he's having too much fun and couldn't be bothered getting feedback from a bunch of cynics and curmudgeons. I married a young girl - and divorced her - and you don't want to hang out with those that have an unwavering view that it's for money or visa's even if there may be a hint of truth. People were nice to me so it was fine ..

It's going average - fallen into a normal boring relationship and there is nothing noteworthy to say.

19 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Three options are:

It's going badly - he'd likely be shouting it from the rooftops if it was a huge success. The experiment failed.

It's going well - he's having too much fun and couldn't be bothered getting feedback from a bunch of cynics and curmudgeons. I married a young girl - and divorced her - and you don't want to hang out with those that have an unwavering view that it's for money or visa's even if there may be a hint of truth. People were nice to me so it was fine ..

It's going average - fallen into a normal boring relationship and there is nothing noteworthy to say.

Option 4. He got tired of making up his story, and found a real girl spending time with, who know keeps him distracted and happy for awhile.

On 10/27/2025 at 3:05 PM, Cameroni said:

It put me right off, I have to say. I mean what does she think, I will bankroll her trip to CM, pull out all the stops so she has "fun", and then just say Ok, when she wants to move on to sit on the Johnson of another guy?

 

I mean what are these girls thinking? Seriously?

So.. She's thinking like a man. 55. Good for her!

On 3/13/2026 at 4:26 AM, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Three options are:

It's going badly - he'd likely be shouting it from the rooftops if it was a huge success. The experiment failed.

It's going well - he's having too much fun and couldn't be bothered getting feedback from a bunch of cynics and curmudgeons. I married a young girl - and divorced her - and you don't want to hang out with those that have an unwavering view that it's for money or visa's even if there may be a hint of truth. People were nice to me so it was fine ..

It's going average - fallen into a normal boring relationship and there is nothing noteworthy to say.

It's going well.

She's still here and the Pigman is comprehensively defeated, his messages deleted and blocked on all social media. I still check. So so far so good.

PG is still fun, her unpredictability intact, her spontaneity and sex drive surprising as ever.

As for having fun, I have a lot of work on at the moment, so within limits, but there will be soon.

But yes, the need for feedback has now disappeared and really we've entered the hard phase of becoming a real couple with the honeymoon period starting to fade. Obviously seeing the real person is always a time of conflict as well and there has been some. But that is in the past now. So badly and average too. A bit of all three really.

There's plenty of extraordinary things I could report, but seeing how this is now getting serious I'd rather let this thread die, as it was started on a wholly different premise. Things are more serious now.

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

There's plenty of extraordinary things I could report, but seeing how this is now getting serious I'd rather let this thread die,

You could always ask one of the Mods to shut it down and do everyone a favour. Just saying......

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It's going well.

She's still here and the Pigman is comprehensively defeated, his messages deleted and blocked on all social media. I still check. So so far so good.

PG is still fun, her unpredictability intact, her spontaneity and sex drive surprising as ever.

As for having fun, I have a lot of work on at the moment, so within limits, but there will be soon.

But yes, the need for feedback has now disappeared and really we've entered the hard phase of becoming a real couple with the honeymoon period starting to fade. Obviously seeing the real person is always a time of conflict as well and there has been some. But that is in the past now. So badly and average too. A bit of all three really.

There's plenty of extraordinary things I could report, but seeing how this is now getting serious I'd rather let this thread die, as it was started on a wholly different premise. Things are more serious now.

All's fair in love and war as they say... Or rather, where there's a will there's a way...

So just a handful of clarifiers...

- What monthly salary did you agree to pay her ?

- Did she get job yet ?

- She owned up about the kids yet ?

- How many times has a family member been unwell so far ?

- Has she asked you to visit Sisaket with her yet ?

- Found out the truth that the land is not hers yet ? (another family members & papers with a loan shark)

- Does she have a second mobile phone that she says is broken and won't work ?

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

All's fair in love and war as they say... Or rather, where there's a will there's a way...

So just a handful of clarifiers...

- What monthly salary did you agree to pay her ?

- Did she get job yet ?

- She owned up about the kids yet ?

- How many times has a family member been unwell so far ?

- Has she asked you to visit Sisaket with her yet ?

- Found out the truth that the land is not hers yet ? (another family members & papers with a loan shark)

- Does she have a second mobile phone that she says is broken and won't work ?

Indeed the land is the mother's, who took out a large loan and secured it with the land. But neither that nor the sister's kids are a major issue, and yes, they are the sister's without a doubt.

The real issues are PG's huge lack of respect, her lack of maturity, inability to express herself well in English, lack of domestic savoir faire, her amazing laziness, not to mention we have wildly different tastes in many things. As her real, full personality emerges, it is not all fun and games. We're both very selfish.

Regarding payments, I'm only 1000 Baht down, not counting food and dinners obviously. On her birthday I gave her 35000 Baht, as she made clear she didn't want a present but wanted to buy the phone herself. I then heavily lobbied for a non-Iphone option, and she bought it for me, saying we'll both use it and if she doesn't like it she'll buy an Iphone. So she bought me a phone for 19000 Baht, so I got most of my money back. In addition she paid for a lot of things herself.

She talked about a job, but nothing yet. She talked about going to Sisaket with me, but didn't go. No unwell family members. No second phone, well, apart from the one we both use.

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

...I'm only 1000 Baht down, not counting food and dinners obviously...

Not really sure if the „only 1000 Baht down“ (if true) is a reason for celebration.

Given her background you’ve described she will need money for her family and for herself and you will have to discuss money if you want to make it work.  Neglecting this now could get rather expensive later.

She might wait until you are married or she is pregnant (or both) but sooner or later this will happen. I mean, godspeed but be prepared.

9 minutes ago, mangkut70 said:

Not really sure if the „only 1000 Baht down“ (if true) is a reason for celebration.

Given her background you’ve described she will need money for her family and for herself and you will have to discuss money if you want to make it work.  Neglecting this now could get rather expensive later.

She might wait until you are married or she is pregnant (or both) but sooner or later this will happen. I mean, godspeed but be prepared.

Yes, she will.

This is a small problem though. Only money. I'm much more concerned about her behaviour.