1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

The real issues are PG's huge lack of respect, her lack of maturity, inability to express herself well in English, lack of domestic savoir faire, her amazing laziness, not to mention we have wildly different tastes in many things. As her real, full personality emerges, it is not all fun and games. We're both very selfish.

• Huge lack of respect.

• Lack of Maturity

• Lack of English (no communication)

• Lack of 'domestic savior faire' (absense of grace and class)

• Amazing laziness

• Completely different tastes

• Very selfish

.... definitely a keeper... must be the lips...

With all the faults the PG has and yet it is still the best the control freak can get. This relationship will definately stand the test of time.

21 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

• Huge lack of respect.

• Lack of Maturity

• Lack of English (no communication)

• Lack of 'domestic savior faire' (absense of grace and class)

• Amazing laziness

• Completely different tastes

• Very selfish

.... definitely a keeper... must be the lips...

We all have dark sides.

Nobody is perfect.

The

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Indeed the land is the mother's, who took out a large loan and secured it with the land. But neither that nor the sister's kids are a major issue, and yes, they are the sister's without a doubt.

The real issues are PG's huge lack of respect, her lack of maturity, inability to express herself well in English, lack of domestic savoir faire, her amazing laziness, not to mention we have wildly different tastes in many things. As her real, full personality emerges, it is not all fun and games. We're both very selfish.

Regarding payments, I'm only 1000 Baht down, not counting food and dinners obviously. On her birthday I gave her 35000 Baht, as she made clear she didn't want a present but wanted to buy the phone herself. I then heavily lobbied for a non-Iphone option, and she bought it for me, saying we'll both use it and if she doesn't like it she'll buy an Iphone. So she bought me a phone for 19000 Baht, so I got most of my money back. In addition she paid for a lot of things herself.

She talked about a job, but nothing yet. She talked about going to Sisaket with me, but didn't go. No unwell family members. No second phone, well, apart from the one we both use.

Bold of someone who talks through Google Translate to be dropping this much BS. So loso

I am sure there will be quite a few "misunderstandings" in the future about what was said.

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

her lack of maturity,

How old is she? 25?

I met a 34 year old and found her immature.

Not that hard to sum up the local idiots on this forum, they are in this topic since ages. Guys must be broke without any real life.

6 hours ago, mangkut70 said:

Not really sure if the „only 1000 Baht down“ (if true) is a reason for celebration.

Given her background you’ve described she will need money for her family and for herself and you will have to discuss money if you want to make it work.  Neglecting this now could get rather expensive later.

She might wait until you are married or she is pregnant (or both) but sooner or later this will happen. I mean, godspeed but be prepared.

1000 baht a day sounds fair when all other expenses are covered ;-)

When she get pregnant, her mom will rise the kid, so not to worry, or her sister since she already busy, or was it the mom who took care there to?

32 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

How old is she? 25?

I met a 34 year old and found her immature.

Thats the way they play or are until they take responsibility, but even then,,,,,

If you want a relationship that works well with a Thai woman you need someone who had a foreigner before, or go for a government worker who have responsibility.

For many thai woman who had a foreigner before above 30, it is now or never, or any unmarried woman above 30, even those numbers being stretched. After all 2026.

And a woman who had a foreigner before often have better language, understanding, already knows how to cook western food, exercise a bit, better at driving, money, do not expect to much, while anything else could be possible.

Most important to find someone who are truly happy to be with you, so you already understand where this go, you need to score a little bit below your expectations, or for some way lower.

My immigration officer with the big ass is still available ;-)

14 minutes ago, Hummin said:

My immigration officer with the big ass is still available ;-)

Big ass. yeah.

People always ask me if I'm a leg man, a breast man or an ass man. I figure I must be an ass man because people always tell me "You're an ass, man!"

And women in suits can be sexy.

And this other girl I just me seems like a kid, even at 34, but she did say she took care of her father in the hospital, even quit her job to take care of him. So she may not be that immature.

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Big ass. yeah.

People always ask me if I'm a leg man, a breast man or an ass man. I figure I must be an ass man because people always tell me "You're an ass, man!"

And women in suits can be sexy.

And this other girl I just me seems like a kid, even at 34, but she did say she took care of her father in the hospital, even quit her job to take care of him. So she may not be that immature.

There is a few guidelines when you looking for a partner, and they should not be younger than your kids, or possible kids age if you had kids. Another rule half of your age, and add 10 years. Meaning, if you 60 you search for 40. I know many will disagree, but a woman in her 50 do match a 70 year old very well. Of course individual treats and qualities, with more.

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

There is a few guidelines when you looking for a partner, and they should not be younger than your kids, or possible kids age if you had kids. Another rule half of your age, and add 10 years. Meaning, if you 60 you search for 40. I know many will disagree, but a woman in her 50 do match a 70 year old very well. Of course individual treats and qualities, with more.

The formula I'd seen was half your age plus 7. The plus 10 doesn't work too well for younger ages, and my woman just fits the plus 7 rule. Although there will be many other factors, including shorter than her man, longer hair, bigger boobs, plus it helps if she likes you 😀

4 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

The formula I'd seen was half your age plus 7. The plus 10 doesn't work too well for younger ages, and my woman just fits the plus 7 rule. Although there will be many other factors, including shorter than her man, longer hair, bigger boobs, plus it helps if she likes you 😀

Not so sure about the bigger boops, I got bigger boops than my wife, and its not because she got small tits, and Im fat.

And by the way, when you are that young, that the formula doesnt reach legal age, the boys needs older women to make a man out of them.

4 hours ago, BuffaloRider said:

Not that hard to sum up the local idiots on this forum, they are in this topic since ages. Guys must be broke without any real life.

Does this just make you an idiot who is late to the party?.....

4 hours ago, BuffaloRider said:

Not that hard to sum up the local idiots on this forum, they are in this topic since ages. Guys must be broke without any real life.

So how bored must you be to arrive afer 200 pages later. idiot

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

How old is she? 25?

I met a 34 year old and found her immature.

Yes, 25. That's a good point, even at 35 they can be immature.

19 hours ago, Cameroni said:

• Huge lack of respect.

• Lack of Maturity

• Lack of English (no communication)

• Lack of 'domestic savior faire' (absense of grace and class)

• Amazing laziness

• Completely different tastes

• Very selfish

.... definitely a keeper... must be the lips...

We all have dark sides.

Nobody is perfect.

Nobody’s perfect… usually things like snoring, bad cooking or the odd unfortunate night time fart..

 

But the industrial-grade trout pout and a results-driven bedroom policy apparently compensate for the rest.

 

If that’s the bar, your previous relationships must have been apocalyptic.

Clearly we've found the cornerstone of a healthy relationship….

18 hours ago, Celsius said:

The

Bold of someone who talks through Google Translate to be dropping this much BS. So loso

I am sure there will be quite a few "misunderstandings" in the future about what was said.

"I told you Teerak, sister, baby me take care"

"no you said your sister has children, after you told me she works in a bar"

"I tell you Teerak, sister me, she bargirl before, no bargirl"

"You said the children where hers"

"I told you Teerak, sister me, baby she take care"

"The children are your sisters"

"Yes - sister take care baby me"

"DAMN - GOOGLE TRANSLATE - HELP !!!"

15 hours ago, BuffaloRider said:

Not that hard to sum up the local idiots on this forum, they are in this topic since ages. Guys must be broke without any real life.

Just going by your user name - You've haven't be giving Cameroni's strumpet a bit of 'how's yer father' have you ???

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Nobody’s perfect… usually things like snoring, bad cooking or the odd unfortunate night time fart..

 

But the industrial-grade trout pout and a results-driven bedroom policy apparently compensate for the rest.

 

If that’s the bar, your previous relationships must have been apocalyptic.

Clearly we've found the cornerstone of a healthy relationship….

Granted, she has some hardcore respect issues, especially in public, the house training is not perfect, and there are a few other deficits, but we just had sex and I gotta tell ya, it does compensate for a lot.

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Granted, she has some hardcore respect issues, especially in public, the house training is not perfect, and there are a few other deficits, but we just had sex and I gotta tell ya, it does compensate for a lot.

We'll if she's skeeting and popping in the corner - you might have your work cut out - people don't change after their mid 30's...

10 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Granted, she has some hardcore respect issues, especially in public, the house training is not perfect, and there are a few other deficits, but we just had sex and I gotta tell ya, it does compensate for a lot.

You are trying hard in every post to sell sex is great with the same desperate energy you used to convince us that 3 was a 9. No one here is that drunk to believe it, sorry.

10 hours ago, Celsius said:

You are trying hard in every post to sell sex is great with the same desperate energy you used to convince us that 3 was a 9. No one here is that drunk to believe it, sorry.

I know, it must be hard to believe when you're stuck with a menopausal 45 year old.

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I know, it must be hard to believe when you're stuck with a menopausal 45 year old.

This is not the slam you believe it to be.

@Cameroni … try to get her to develop an activity or center of interest, whatever it may be. She used to like playing volleyball on the beach so that’s probably an angle you could exploit to get her start a new routine, with an activity around sport in Chiang Mai for instance. Isn’t she likely to develop any level of curiosity to learn about something? There must be some kind of angle to arouse a liking or curiosity around something. Her phone is too much at the centre stage in her mind,

8 minutes ago, Franck60 said:

@Cameroni … try to get her to develop an activity or center of interest, whatever it may be. She used to like playing volleyball on the beach so that’s probably an angle you could exploit to get her start a new routine, with an activity around sport in Chiang Mai for instance. Isn’t she likely to develop any level of curiosity to learn about something? There must be some kind of angle to arouse a liking or curiosity around something. Her phone is too much at the centre stage in her mind,

Trying to reinvent a 25yo Thai woman that never worked a day in her life, lol

1 hour ago, Franck60 said:

@Cameroni … try to get her to develop an activity or center of interest, whatever it may be. She used to like playing volleyball on the beach so that’s probably an angle you could exploit to get her start a new routine, with an activity around sport in Chiang Mai for instance. Isn’t she likely to develop any level of curiosity to learn about something? There must be some kind of angle to arouse a liking or curiosity around something. Her phone is too much at the centre stage in her mind,

Yes, I am working on it. Just need to harmonize my work schedule with her extracurricular activities. But you're right, there has to be something that occupies her time. She says she's getting bored again.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She says she's getting bored again.

a few days in Phuket might cheer her up

50 minutes ago, mangkut70 said:

a few days in Phuket might cheer her up

Not gonna happen.

10 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Not gonna happen.

Let your bird out of the cage. If she stays it was meant to be. If she flies to Helmut and to her beach friends then so be it. She's been with you long enough that she knows if it works for her and - though it's good she's kind of being honest showing her laziness and bad attitude before she's got the dollars - it's probably downhill from here.

Not sure how you can turn the ship around if at this early stage she's not willing to make an effort. If she was to become suddenly a hard worker and 'nice' and followed what you wanted you probably would be bored and miss the old Phuket girl in any case.

3 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Let your bird out of the cage. If she stays it was meant to be. If she flies to Helmut and to her beach friends then so be it. She's been with you long enough that she knows if it works for her and - though it's good she's kind of being honest showing her laziness and bad attitude before she's got the dollars - it's probably downhill from here.

Not sure how you can turn the ship around if at this early stage she's not willing to make an effort. If she was to become suddenly a hard worker and 'nice' and followed what you wanted you probably would be bored and miss the old Phuket girl in any case.

She's flush with money and can leave at any time if she wanted to.

Pigman is completely out of the picture, I monitor the phone very regularly and he continues blocked everywhere.

PG has improved her attitude somewhat, is cleaning the house and talked of cooking, plus her attitude is getting better of late. However, indeed not seeing real enthusiasm at this early stage is not great. She is making some effort now though.

Her rebellious, hard headed, self-centred nature is very evident though. It does make for fun and unpredictability, but obviously can be an annoyance too.

Fortunately her sex drive compensates for this in a great way.