Just now, BLMFem said:

 

Oh great, another "deep thinker" whose been able to see the "truth", unlike all the "bird brains". 

Pathetic.😂

 

Pathetic?

 

Your username is literally fashioned from a CIA color revolution 555. That's how compromised your mental capacity is.

 

 

The organization Black Lives Matter (BLM) is not about black lives. BLM is a Marxist organization disguised as a civil rights organization. Instead of improving race relations, BLM exploits racial tensions to collapse America from within and replace our constitutional republic with socialism/communism. BLM is the ultimate humanitarian hoax being perpetrated on unsuspecting Americans who still believe that BLM cares about black lives.

 

https://drrichswier.com/2020/09/29/color-revolutions-are-not-about-color/

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Yes, countering Russia's naked aggression has been costly, and it will cost a lot more. But that's nothing compared to what the bill would have been if Europe had caved and let the dictator have a free run.

Putin must be defeated, Russia must be defeated and all the frozen assets should be confiscated as a first step. And when Putin is a rotting corpse and Russia disintegrates, it's time to return all the land occupied by Russia through the centuries.

Won't be much left, which is just fine by me.

Why don't you post under your real username I and I'm sure most others know who you really are. BYE !

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Yes, countering Russia's naked aggression has been costly, and it will cost a lot more. But that's nothing compared to what the bill would have been if Europe had caved and let the dictator have a free run.

Putin must be defeated, Russia must be defeated and all the frozen assets should be confiscated as a first step. And when Putin is a rotting corpse and Russia disintegrates, it's time to return all the land occupied by Russia through the centuries.

Won't be much left, which is just fine by me.

 

This is just a big dump in the toilet. You've stated nothing of any substance. It's just some weak overly opinionated bunch of nothing. 

 

As I stated - it really doesn't matter what you think about anything. What matters is reality and the truth both of which are apparently in limited supply between your ears. 

 

Russia won. It was only a matter of time unless the US committed troops. Europe has absolutely no warfare capacity whatsoever. It couldn't even commit money. So really STFU

3 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Good points - take a look below at the last full and free President election results in Ukraine.

Half the country (Eastern) supports Russia and half (Western) supports the West/Europe.

The EU/NATO backed Putin into a corner after over-throwing the elected pro-Russian President. 

Putin annexed Crimea but should have invaded back then - he took far too long - EU/NATO kept pushing.

 

 

Now take a look below at the last full and free Government Election in Ukraine.

This 'war' was inevitable and the warmongers like Cheney in EU/NATO thought it would destroy Russia.

They got that all wrong - just like their wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. 

It is time USA walked away from wars that do not affect them - and Trump is doing just that. 

 

 

 

 

2010! 🤣

 

Here's the map of the 2019 election!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Ukrainian_presidential_election

It wasn't a video game in the end or a existential battle against good or evil but the first war fought endlessly and cheered  on social media by virtue signallers thousands of miles away but with no skin in the game pouring petrol onto a conflagration that has destroyed a country.There are no winners here just millions dead and injured and what when all is said and done will probably be anoyher failed state where the west walks away with a shrug of its shoulders. But we stuck it into the Orcs in Morder - that felt good. That and thinking Zelenskiy was the hero we always felt we needed but never had. Two songs about Bahkmut one a rousing patriotic Ukarainian anthem the other from a Russian soldier in the ruins. The sooner this bloody war stops once and for all the better. No ifs or buts. 

 

 

Wall Street Journal virtually saying Russia has 'won' - time for many here to go back to civvie life - fold those flags away and go back to discussing the cheapest Chang and mourn our lost posters and would be Walts and You Tube clout chasers can find the next best thing. 

 

Russia Stuck to Its Demands on Ukraine. Many Are Now in Trump’s Peace Plan.
Moscow has repeated its desire to neutralize Kyiv’s military and stop the expansion of NATO through diplomacy—or on the battlefield -WSJ 

 

https://archive.ph/m0sOj#selection-523.0-527.131

 

 

The cracks starting to show in both Ukraine’s military and its political leadership have likely played to Moscow’s advantage. Russia’s strength on the battlefield has also likely been a factor in convincing Trump to embrace more of the Kremlin’s demands to reach a deal quickly. 
That has contrasted with Kyiv’s expressed goal—increasingly seen as unrealistic in the short term—to take back all of its occupied territory. Manpower issues have hobbled its ability to hold back a grinding Russian advance that is now threatening two major cities in Ukraine’s east. 
“Ukraine has no clear theory of victory. Some vague notions are out there. Russia is bigger. It has the resources,” said Linas Kojala, chief executive of the Geopolitics and Security Studies Center, a think tank based in Lithuania. 

 

 

And if you want to see the storm that's coming just read the X account of EuromaidanPR - probably civil war / coup and at leadership that will flee. The corruption at the very top whilst hapless conscripts forced to the front to fight an unwinnable war as winter looms and cities go dark. 

 

 

9 hours ago, MarcusAurelius said:

 

Pathetic?

 

Your username is literally fashioned from a CIA color revolution 555. That's how compromised your mental capacity is.

 

 

The organization Black Lives Matter (BLM) is not about black lives. BLM is a Marxist organization disguised as a civil rights organization. Instead of improving race relations, BLM exploits racial tensions to collapse America from within and replace our constitutional republic with socialism/communism. BLM is the ultimate humanitarian hoax being perpetrated on unsuspecting Americans who still believe that BLM cares about black lives.

 

https://drrichswier.com/2020/09/29/color-revolutions-are-not-about-color/

And there was silly old me thinking that this thread was about Ukraine!

13 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

When you are wrong about Putin invading Europe, think about me still laughing at your absolute idiocy.

Likewise, you do the same about mine if he does invade.

Time will tell who is the nutter/whacker. 

Been dealt this poor hand and your going to ignore it

Seriously

2 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

Been deal this poor hand and your going to ignore it

Seriously

Trump is a disgrace.

13 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

The majority of members on this forum are not correct frequently, and are often very very wrong.  And yet they still maintain their views and behaviours - I have no idea why they do that - honestly - I have no idea at all why they cannot 'adjust' to the new reality. That reality is that the woke liberal globalist leaders are being removed from power all over the world - bit by bit, country by country. Because - when the woke socialists are in power everything goes to hell in a handbasket - just look at UK and Australia and Canada over the last few years. The unelected woke globalist bureaucrats in Europe who have taken control over the elected politicians are prepared to go to war to maintain their control - but hopefully they will be removed before they can do to much more damage, or start WW3.    

Probably everyone knows who is the one wrong.

11 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

Probably everyone knows who is the one wrong.

 

Now list the List of United States of America in comparison 

 

well, that’s the Big Bear nature, and why we do not trust the Russians. On the other hand Russian trying to control their back yard for support and necessary resources, making friends and making influence  by changing government in the  neighborhood. 

 

That’s the nature of human power when you want something, you take if if its not given to you. 

54 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

Been dealt this poor hand and your going to ignore it

Seriously

Nice try 

 

I'll fact-check this list and then create a comparable one for the US.Now let me create a comparable US list.## Fact-Check of the Russian/Soviet List

The list is largely accurate in terms of documented military interventions, though it simplifies complex situations:

Accurate entries:

• 1939: Soviet Union attacks Finland (Winter War, November 30, 1939)
• 1939: Soviet Union attacks Poland (September 17, 1939)
• 1940: Soviet Union attacks Baltic countries (occupation of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania)
• 1956: Soviet Union attacks Hungary (crushed Hungarian Revolution)
• 1968: Soviet Union attacks Czechoslovakia (Warsaw Pact invasion, August 20-21, 1968)
• 1979: Soviet Union attacks Afghanistan (invasion began December 24, 1979)
• 1992: Russia attacks Moldova (Transnistrian War)
• 1992: Russia attacks Georgia (South Ossetia conflict, 1991-1992)
• 1994: Russia attacks Chechnya (First Chechen War, 1994-1996)
• 1999: Russia attacks Chechnya (Second Chechen War, 1999-2009)
• 2008: Russia attacks Georgia (Russo-Georgian War, August 2008)
• 2015: Russia attacks Syria (military intervention began September 30, 2015)
• 2014 & 2022: Ukraine invasions are well-documented

Needs context:

• 1919-1921 entries refer to the complex Russian Civil War period where multiple factions fought
• The Azerbaij an and Georgian entries (1920-1921) relate to Red Army operations during the formation of the Soviet Union

Comparable US List (1919-2025)

Here's a comparable timeline of major US military interventions:

1919: US intervenes in Russian Civil War
1941-1945: US attacks Germany, Japan, Italy (WWII)
1950-1953: US attacks North Korea and China (Korean War)
1958: US intervenes in Lebanon
1961: US attacks Cuba (Bay of Pigs invasion)
1962-1975: US attacks Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia
1965: US invades Dominican Republic
1982-1984: US intervenes in Lebanon
1983: US invades Grenada
1986: US bombs Libya
1989: US invades Panama
1991: US attacks Iraq (Gulf War)
1992-1994: US intervenes in Somalia
1994-1995: US intervenes in Haiti
1995: US bombs Bosnia
1998: US bombs Sudan and Afghanistan
1999: US bombs Yugoslavia/Serbia (Kosovo War)
2001-2021: US invades Afghanistan
2003-2011: US invades Iraq
2011: US bombs Libya
2014-present: US military operations in Syria
2014-present: US operations in Iraq (vs ISIS)
2023-present: US conducts strikes in Yemen

Both lists show extensive military involvement abroad, though the contexts, justifications, and outcomes varied greatly. The comparison highlights that major powers have frequently used military force throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.

3 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Nice try 

 

I'll fact-check this list and then create a comparable one for the US.Now let me create a comparable US list.## Fact-Check of the Russian/Soviet List

The list is largely accurate in terms of documented military interventions, though it simplifies complex situations:

Accurate entries:

• 1939: Soviet Union attacks Finland (Winter War, November 30, 1939)
• 1939: Soviet Union attacks Poland (September 17, 1939)
• 1940: Soviet Union attacks Baltic countries (occupation of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania)
• 1956: Soviet Union attacks Hungary (crushed Hungarian Revolution)
• 1968: Soviet Union attacks Czechoslovakia (Warsaw Pact invasion, August 20-21, 1968)
• 1979: Soviet Union attacks Afghanistan (invasion began December 24, 1979)
• 1992: Russia attacks Moldova (Transnistrian War)
• 1992: Russia attacks Georgia (South Ossetia conflict, 1991-1992)
• 1994: Russia attacks Chechnya (First Chechen War, 1994-1996)
• 1999: Russia attacks Chechnya (Second Chechen War, 1999-2009)
• 2008: Russia attacks Georgia (Russo-Georgian War, August 2008)
• 2015: Russia attacks Syria (military intervention began September 30, 2015)
• 2014 & 2022: Ukraine invasions are well-documented

Needs context:

• 1919-1921 entries refer to the complex Russian Civil War period where multiple factions fought
• The Azerbaij an and Georgian entries (1920-1921) relate to Red Army operations during the formation of the Soviet Union

Comparable US List (1919-2025)

Here's a comparable timeline of major US military interventions:

1919: US intervenes in Russian Civil War
1941-1945: US attacks Germany, Japan, Italy (WWII)
1950-1953: US attacks North Korea and China (Korean War)
1958: US intervenes in Lebanon
1961: US attacks Cuba (Bay of Pigs invasion)
1962-1975: US attacks Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia
1965: US invades Dominican Republic
1982-1984: US intervenes in Lebanon
1983: US invades Grenada
1986: US bombs Libya
1989: US invades Panama
1991: US attacks Iraq (Gulf War)
1992-1994: US intervenes in Somalia
1994-1995: US intervenes in Haiti
1995: US bombs Bosnia
1998: US bombs Sudan and Afghanistan
1999: US bombs Yugoslavia/Serbia (Kosovo War)
2001-2021: US invades Afghanistan
2003-2011: US invades Iraq
2011: US bombs Libya
2014-present: US military operations in Syria
2014-present: US operations in Iraq (vs ISIS)
2023-present: US conducts strikes in Yemen

Both lists show extensive military involvement abroad, though the contexts, justifications, and outcomes varied greatly. The comparison highlights that major powers have frequently used military force throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.

 

Still doesnt make Russia right to invade Ukraine, 

19 hours ago, BLMFem said:

So it has been revealed that the 28 point peace plan was not written by American, but by Russians! Words fail me. When I thought the Trump 2.0 s**t show couldn't get any worse, they totally blow that assumption out of the water.

What the actual frack is going on in the WH?? The grownups must return, 25 NOW!

 

 

 

Part of Grok's (AI) take on this tweet/post:

 

 

Well hard too not believe that the president owes Putin for some reason IMHO anyway as we see Moscow seems ahead of Trump every time.

10 hours ago, MarcusAurelius said:

Wow, you are really thick.

 

Your opinion of this geopolitical abortion matters not half a fuk. 

 

Russia is holding all the cards, it always had. This war of attrition would have been over years ago if not for the US taxpayer and his now indebted children.

 

Russia will take the Crimea and ethnic Russian republics. If that doesn't suit corrupt Ukrainian ministers they will in short order take Kyiv.

 

This is yet another glaring example of how ignorant and churlish this sub forum is. The whinging, whining and knashing of teeth, but in the end it's just surrender and capitulation. 

 

The nail in the coffin is perhaps the 100 million dollars stolen from effectively the US taxpayer cum Ukrainian citizenry. One individual fu ked off to where? You guessed it - Israel of course. 

 

So dry your manboy eyes, tighten your sphincter because the men are here to take control of the situation.

 

It never was winnable, but you know so little about the world you were oblivious to that brutal, cold, hard reality.

 

The world works entirely independently of all your silly little bird brains. Many of you once again like COVID, like the gaytriarchy, like the election wholly and entirely wrong. Another word for all of this is of course - delusional 

 

 

 

"This is yet another glaring example of how ignorant and churlish this sub forum is."

12 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Nice try 

 

I'll fact-check this list and then create a comparable one for the US.Now let me create a comparable US list.## Fact-Check of the Russian/Soviet List

The list is largely accurate in terms of documented military interventions, though it simplifies complex situations:

Accurate entries:

• 1939: Soviet Union attacks Finland (Winter War, November 30, 1939)
• 1939: Soviet Union attacks Poland (September 17, 1939)
• 1940: Soviet Union attacks Baltic countries (occupation of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania)
• 1956: Soviet Union attacks Hungary (crushed Hungarian Revolution)
• 1968: Soviet Union attacks Czechoslovakia (Warsaw Pact invasion, August 20-21, 1968)
• 1979: Soviet Union attacks Afghanistan (invasion began December 24, 1979)
• 1992: Russia attacks Moldova (Transnistrian War)
• 1992: Russia attacks Georgia (South Ossetia conflict, 1991-1992)
• 1994: Russia attacks Chechnya (First Chechen War, 1994-1996)
• 1999: Russia attacks Chechnya (Second Chechen War, 1999-2009)
• 2008: Russia attacks Georgia (Russo-Georgian War, August 2008)
• 2015: Russia attacks Syria (military intervention began September 30, 2015)
• 2014 & 2022: Ukraine invasions are well-documented

Needs context:

• 1919-1921 entries refer to the complex Russian Civil War period where multiple factions fought
• The Azerbaij an and Georgian entries (1920-1921) relate to Red Army operations during the formation of the Soviet Union

Comparable US List (1919-2025)

Here's a comparable timeline of major US military interventions:

1919: US intervenes in Russian Civil War
1941-1945: US attacks Germany, Japan, Italy (WWII)
1950-1953: US attacks North Korea and China (Korean War)
1958: US intervenes in Lebanon
1961: US attacks Cuba (Bay of Pigs invasion)
1962-1975: US attacks Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia
1965: US invades Dominican Republic
1982-1984: US intervenes in Lebanon
1983: US invades Grenada
1986: US bombs Libya
1989: US invades Panama
1991: US attacks Iraq (Gulf War)
1992-1994: US intervenes in Somalia
1994-1995: US intervenes in Haiti
1995: US bombs Bosnia
1998: US bombs Sudan and Afghanistan
1999: US bombs Yugoslavia/Serbia (Kosovo War)
2001-2021: US invades Afghanistan
2003-2011: US invades Iraq
2011: US bombs Libya
2014-present: US military operations in Syria
2014-present: US operations in Iraq (vs ISIS)
2023-present: US conducts strikes in Yemen

Both lists show extensive military involvement abroad, though the contexts, justifications, and outcomes varied greatly. The comparison highlights that major powers have frequently used military force throughout the 20th and 21st centuries.

The post was in response to the post troubled claims Russia will not rage war on  Europeans.

But you want us to recall the terrible chaos the US has started. Sad

After last nights lashing out on Ukraine again and President Zelenskyy, you see how Trump is emotionally flipp flopping out of unknown reasons. 

 

I suspect he is under a lot of pressure not only to solve the world wars going on, but also the Epstein files gives him nightmares, and he needs the distractions. 

 

Some good reflections of the war and future 

 

Europe needs to stand on their own feet, no doubt about it. 

 

 

 

BREAKING: Ukraine peace plan written by Russia The United States!

 

Fearless Leader Secretary of State of the Russian Federation United States posted on Russia Today X that the Ukraine Peace Proposal was written by Vladimir Putin the United States.

 

Comrade SecState Rubio X post is here:
 

 

6 minutes ago, connda said:

BREAKING: Ukraine peace plan written by Russia The United States!

 

Fearless Leader Secretary of State of the Russian Federation United States posted on Russia Today X that the Ukraine Peace Proposal was written by Vladimir Putin the United States.

 

Comrade SecState Rubio X post is here:
 

 

Rubio states, so it is true?

It is always the victors who write the peace plan since the dawn of time

15 minutes ago, howerde said:

It is always the victors who write the peace plan since the dawn of time

15 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Actually Neville Chamberlain knew that the west had to buy time to rearm.

More true facts from your COS? So please document the rearming going on after Chamberlain capitulated to Hitler.

17 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

You forgot that Trump is in the White House. 

not for too much longer, next year mid term elections Dems take back the house and Trump will be impeached, then removed 

wonder who was the last one speaking to him for the change of mind, disgraceful senile incompetent old man, no education no back bone.... he's giving their country away as he expects gratitude

Trump Calls Ukraine Ungrateful, Again, for U.S. Support in War With Russia

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/us/politics/trump-ukraine-criticism-russia.html

 

this guy changes mind as fast as a "tomahawk" ... how can anybody trust this double face government with its constant misinformation, first they said tomahawk will be given, then no tomahawk will be given now back to tomahawk will be given, then ???? your guess it's as good as mine, but the american people have to get rid of these "egomaniacs"

 

It’s such a stark change, it is perhaps forgivable the messaging is garbled.

US President Donald Trump is considering supplying Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, according to his Vice President JD Vance.

“We are having conversations this very minute about that issue,” Vance told “Fox News Sunday,” adding Trump will make a “final determination.”

Trump’s latest policy 180 on the war in Ukraine could strike deep into Russian territory

https://au.yahoo.com/news/trump-latest-policy-180-war-150657648.html

 

22 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

not for too much longer, next year mid term elections Dems take back the house and Trump will be impeached, then removed 

to be removed he has to be found guilty at a Senate Trial. 2/3 are needed for conviction. It's unlikely that he will screw up so badly that he will be convicted. But I wouldn't entirely put it past him.

I would have thought at least a Ceasefire would be in place while talks are ongoing but no not even that and Russia is still sending Drones to kill Ukranian Citezens.

20 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I turned this thread into a Leonard Cohen song via Claude and Suno 4.5. 

 

https://suno.com/song/0b106686-d633-4a89-84a9-1ddcff9e1765

 

 

For the input your putting into this thread beuitifulthailand you might as well play a song, but hey your in Thailand so dont need to worry if you live in Europe.Pople like you were called a Conscientious objectors due to willing to lay down and let another country just walk in unaposed.