January 11Jan 11 39 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:This video shows demonstrations in many cities and countries in 2021.London 2021During the war.
January 11Jan 11 41 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:This video shows demonstrations in many cities and countries in 2021.London 2021Seems like many didn't want Netanyahu before the war, and now during the war.I don't think his corruption charges have gone away. He can't hold on to the top sport forever. I suspect he will flight out of Tel Aviv on a chartered plane to an unknown destination at some stage.The last two youtube video show Israeli's protesting against a fellow Israeli. On that basis, it's not so strange other people around the world join with their Jewish brothers and sisters to protest against the same war criminal. 🙂Before the war.
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January 11Jan 11 Author 1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:In my opinion, most of the protesters were horrified, as I was, with the footage coming out of Gaza of the death and destruction.Israel have occupied, blockaded, killed Gazans for a long time. The Israeli propaganda and censorship stopped neutrals seeing what was happening.This is just one of the reasons the Oct 7 breakout happened, in May, 2023.
January 11Jan 11 6 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:the Palestinians also have right to their own statehoodNo they don’t. There’s no such thing as “Palestinian”. They’re an invented group, made up to serve the interests of the kinds of people who are now their “leaders” and terrorists and their supporters.
January 11Jan 11 7 hours ago, tai4de2 said:No they don’t. There’s no such thing as “Palestinian”. They’re an invented group, made up to serve the interests of the kinds of people who are now their “leaders” and terrorists and their supporters.Is there such thing as 'israeli'?
January 12Jan 12 5 hours ago, stevenl said:Is there such thing as 'israeli'?Yes, it has been the official designation for citizens of the State of Israel since 1948. From Time magazine:"Foreign Minister Moshe Shertok announced last week that a citizen of Israel would be known by the Hebrew name Israeli. The Anglicized "Israelite" was rejected as applying to other times, other places (e.g., Israel's present territory has significant differences from that of biblical Israel)."https://web.archive.org/web/20071016074447/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0%2C9171%2C798687-2%2C00.htmlIsraeli also denotes things associated with Israel, i.e., Israeli food, Israeli Air Force, Israeli beaches, etc.6 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:The point I am making is, these global "Free Palestine" or "Pro Palestine" protests were not a "thing" prior to the war.Now, these protests are large, and frequent, and global.I don't know how you personally define "thing," but anti-Israel demonstrations certainly occurred before October 2023.I responded to your question, "Prior to the war in Gaza, can you remember any pro Palestinian protests in the west?" by answering "many, many, many ..." When you asked for links, I thought you wanted proof these demonstrations had been going on for years in western countries, That's why I posted the photos from 1973 and 1978 in my first reply to you request. I was planning to continue with videos from various years to show anti-Israel protests were a regular occurrence over the past five or six decades at the least.But then you moved the goal posts and started asking about global demonstrations in the two yeas preceding the October 7 attack on Israel. If your only point was to "prove" that the anti-Israel demonstrations got larger, more frequent and more intense after Oct. 7 compared with earlier years, I would not have disagreed. The main difference I see between pre- and post-Oct, 7 demonstrations is that some of the more recent ones have involved openly antisemitic chants, harassment of individual Jews, blocking the entrance to synagogues and similar tactics. Things got particularly bad with harassment of Jewish students on U.S. university campuses with "Zionist free" zones. That's a chapter straight out of the 1930s Nazi playbook.Hatred of Jews has been around for several thousand years. Recent harassment of Jews is just a modern expression of the world's oldest hatred.
January 12Jan 12 4 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:Yes, it has been the official designation for citizens of the State of Israel since 1948. From Time magazine:"Foreign Minister Moshe Shertok announced last week that a citizen of Israel would be known by the Hebrew name Israeli. The Anglicized "Israelite" was rejected as applying to other times, other places (e.g., Israel's present territory has significant differences from that of biblical Israel)."https://web.archive.org/web/20071016074447/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0%2C9171%2C798687-2%2C00.htmlIsraeli also denotes things associated with Israel, i.e., Israeli food, Israeli Air Force, Israeli beaches, etc.I don't know how you personally define "thing," but anti-Israel demonstrations certainly occurred before October 2023.I responded to your question, "Prior to the war in Gaza, can you remember any pro Palestinian protests in the west?" by answering "many, many, many ..." When you asked for links, I thought you wanted proof these demonstrations had been going on for years in western countries, That's why I posted the photos from 1973 and 1978 in my first reply to you request. I was planning to continue with videos from various years to show anti-Israel protests were a regular occurrence over the past five or six decades at the least.But then you moved the goal posts and started asking about global demonstrations in the two yeas preceding the October 7 attack on Israel. If your only point was to "prove" that the anti-Israel demonstrations got larger, more frequent and more intense after Oct. 7 compared with earlier years, I would not have disagreed.The main difference I see between pre- and post-Oct, 7 demonstrations is that some of the more recent ones have involved openly antisemitic chants, harassment of individual Jews, blocking the entrance to synagogues and similar tactics. Things got particularly bad with harassment of Jewish students on U.S. university campuses with "Zionist free" zones. That's a chapter straight out of the 1930s Nazi playbook.Hatred of Jews has been around for several thousand years. Recent harassment of Jews is just a modern expression of the world's oldest hatred.No, that was not my question. My question "Is there such thing as 'israeli'?" was in response to this statement "There’s no such thing as “Palestinian”.". So I'm sure you disagree with the statement made earlier "There’s no such thing as “Palestinian”."
January 12Jan 12 On 1/10/2026 at 11:08 PM, Nick Carter icp said:Don't go thenYou wasn't invited either .Yep- exactly what I stated. Do like loads of sweaty men and chubby chicks?
January 13Jan 13 On 1/11/2026 at 2:46 PM, JimCM said:The Israeli propaganda and censorship stopped neutrals seeing what was happening.They will not be able to keep the journalists out of Gaza forever. Post war, there will be big headlines around the world as reports emerge about the atrocities committed in Gaza.
January 13Jan 13 On 1/11/2026 at 4:14 PM, tai4de2 said:No they don’t. There’s no such thing as “Palestinian”. They’re an invented group, made up to serve the interests of the kinds of people who are now their “leaders” and terrorists and their supporters.So, what would YOU like to call the 2 million people that live in Gaza?
January 13Jan 13 On 1/12/2026 at 4:58 AM, Evil Penevil said:Hatred of Jews has been around for several thousand years. Recent harassment of Jews is just a modern expression of the world's oldest hatred.Interesting point. During the Cold War, western people were no fans of Russians. The Berlin Wall came down, so the Cold War ended, and nobody cared too much about Russians after that. Then Putin invades Ukraine and the average Russian is not so well liked anymore, through no fault of their own. It's true, hatred of Jews has been around for a long time, but it's interesting to me how after the Hamas terrorist attack most around the world were behind Israel and their military response, however, as more and more news leaked out of Gaza about what was taking place on the ground there, I believe people who were pro Israel, or neutral, became pro Palestinian to some extent. Basically, Netanyahu took it too far. Similar to the Vietnam War. There were even Israeli's protesting against him and the war. (see video previously posted) He also had, at last count, around 200 IDF soldiers that not only refused to go back and fight in Gaza, but joined the protests against him. I will not say protesting is a form of hatred, because it's not, but it's certainly a form of disagreement, or a show of being disgusted in the actions of politicians or policy. So, what turned so many from pro to anti Israel, including Israeli's themselves?
January 13Jan 13 23 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:They will not be able to keep the journalists out of Gaza forever.Post war, there will be big headlines around the world as reports emerge about the atrocities committed in Gaza. Journalists will be able to visit the opening of Trumps golf course in Gaza in 2029 , whist staying at Trumps beachfront hotel
January 13Jan 13 On 1/12/2026 at 4:58 AM, Evil Penevil said:I don't know how you personally define "thing," but anti-Israel demonstrations certainly occurred before October 2023.A question for you.Is a pro Palestine / Palestinian demonstration automatically and "anti Israel" demonstration? Can it be one, without the other?
January 13Jan 13 1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:Journalists will be able to visit the opening of Trumps golf course in Gaza in 2029 , whist staying at Trumps beachfront hotelNext presidential election is in 2028, and he can only do two terms. He better build that golf course before 2028, or, be prepared to put it in his son's name. 🙂
January 13Jan 13 7 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:Next presidential election is in 2028, and he can only do two terms.He better build that golf course before 2028, or, be prepared to put it in his son's name. 🙂 Why .Donald doesn't need to be POTUS to open a golf course and hotel in Gaza
January 13Jan 13 59 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:Why .Donald doesn't need to be POTUS to open a golf course and hotel in GazaHow would one steal the land to make the golf course? Does Gaza have rare earth minerals? Is it a strategic striking location to Russia and China? 🙂
January 13Jan 13 4 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:So, what would YOU like to call the 2 million people that live in Gaza?I presume you are asking this disingenuously as part of trying to justify why their situation can rightly be termed "genocide". But OK, I'll bite.From a residence standpoint, they're Gazans.From an ethnic standpoint, they're Levantine Arabs; indistinct from, say, Jordanians and Syrians.The former is by definition not subject to "genocide" and no one at all is trying to wipe out Levantine Arabs so no "genocide" with respect to the latter either.
January 13Jan 13 1 minute ago, tai4de2 said:I presume you are asking this disingenuously as part of trying to justify why their situation can rightly be termed "genocide".No, a proper question.They are humans. They are entitled to be covered under the human rights charter.It appears you want to paint the picture that all 2 million inhabitants are Hamas, and therefore combatants, so can be targeted, even the children. This may fit your narrative, but has no basis in fact.4 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:From a residence standpoint, they're Gazans.The Israeli's have occupied Gaza for decades.When has Gaza ever been for Gazans???? Therefore, what, or where, really, is their residence?5 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:From an ethnic standpoint, they're Levantine Arabs; indistinct from, say, Jordanians and Syrians.So?6 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:The former is by definition not subject to "genocide" and no one at all is trying to wipe out Levantine Arabs so no "genocide" with respect to the latter either.70,000 killed. Disproportionate military action. Collective punishment. Two thirds of the dead women and children. Man made famine. Medical supplies withheld. Forced displacement. Indiscriminate bombing. Torture. Summary executions. Warrants out for Netanyahu and members of his cabinet for war crimes. This is not just my opinion, these are the findings of several international organizations.Like I have said, Gaza is now one big concentration camp. History will not treat Israel, or Israeli's, well on this one. In the same way history did not treat the Germans well for the holocaust.
January 13Jan 13 24 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:It appears you want to paint the picture that all 2 million inhabitants are Hamas, and therefore combatants, so can be targeted, even the children.The blame for the Gazans' plight rests squarely on the terrorist scum and the so-called "leadership" they exercise over the 2 million -- i.e. it's (for example) Hamas and their terrorist supporters that are the baby killers. (A sizable percentage of Gazans actually does support Hamas, but I don't believe in collective punishment in the way you and people like you disingenuously attempt to impute.)I do believe in self-defense, however; that includes an offense component when needed (such as now). And the above-mentioned terrorists have caused the mother of all self-defense reflexes from Israel and the glorious IDF.I anticipate that you or someone else will take that previous paragraph and try to twist around who is engaging in "self-defense" vs. "offense". Whatever!34 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:This is not just my opinion, these are the findings of several international organizations.Bwwahhahaahahahhahahaaaa! You expect the sane among us to defer to the usual terrorist-supporting, marxist agenda-driven globalist and leftist NGOs? Get real.
January 13Jan 13 13 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:And the above-mentioned terrorists have caused the mother of all self-defense reflexes from Israel and the glorious IDF.This IDF soldier describes what the glorious IDF are actually doing. Are his words Hamas propaganda? He's Israeli and IDF. 15 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:I anticipate that you or someone else will take that previous paragraph and try to twist around who is engaging in "self-defense" vs. "offense". Whatever!No. Everyone can hear about it from an IDF soldier on the below interview. 16 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:You expect the sane among us to defer to the usual terrorist-supporting, marxist agenda-driven globalist and leftist NGOs? Get real.No. I expect you to listen to the IDF solider in the below video.What are your thoughts on his testimony? Is he lying? If so, what would be his motive? Do you think he is a traitor? If so, could it be that what he saw happening was so bad he needed to tell the world?
January 13Jan 13 7 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:They will not be able to keep the journalists out of Gaza forever.Post war, there will be big headlines around the world as reports emerge about the atrocities committed in Gaza. What are they going to say ?IDF have shooting practice to kill babies ?Woman and children have been targeted ?Genocide though starvation ?Concertation camps ?All Their cards have been played .What more can they report ?
January 13Jan 13 2 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:I expect you to listen to the IDF solider in the below video.Then you are going to be disappointed.You and others like you seize upon the testimony of one or a small number of people who represent your point of view, and extrapolate it for your own purposes. Have at it.
January 14Jan 14 7 hours ago, tai4de2 said:You and others like you seize upon the testimony of one or a small number of people who represent your point of view, and extrapolate it for your own purposes.That's exactly what you're doing.
January 14Jan 14 15 hours ago, tai4de2 said:Then you are going to be disappointed.You and others like you seize upon the testimony of one or a small number of people who represent your point of view, and extrapolate it for your own purposes. Have at it.To not listen to his testimony says more about you than it does me.It takes courage to become a whistleblower. It takes courage to disobey unlawful orders.This war will come to a close one day, and journalist will be allowed into Gaza. When that day comes, I suspect there will be many credible accounts of provable war crimes against IDF soldiers.Unarmed, and executed, and on film.
January 14Jan 14 16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:What are they going to say ?They will be eye witness accounts to war crimes and crimes against humanity. 16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:Woman and children have been targeted ?Yes. 16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:Genocide though starvation ?Food used as a weapon of war. Yes. 16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:Concertation camps ?Yes. I believe Gaza meets the definition of a concentration camp. 16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:All Their cards have been played .No, they haven't. There will be post war consequences for Netanyahu to deal with, 16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:What more can they report ?Full eye witness, and provable, account of war crimes and atrocities committed in Gaza. 16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:IDF have shooting practice to kill babies ?Yeah, and small children. From an retired American solider.
January 14Jan 14 37 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:Yes. I believe Gaza meets the definition of a concentration camp. What is that definition ?
January 14Jan 14 6 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:To not listen to his testimony says more about you than it does me.It takes courage to become a whistleblower. It takes courage to disobey unlawful orders.This war will come to a close one day, and journalist will be allowed into Gaza. When that day comes, I suspect there will be many credible accounts of provable war crimes against IDF soldiers.Unarmed, and executed, and on film.Oh no! Some Hamas-supporting random stranger I don't know and who will never matter to me -- or maybe 1000 such people --may judge me, based on their agenda-driven "this means what I say it means" video "evidence".Yawn.I have already judged you and people like you, based on a more rational set of truths.
January 14Jan 14 14 hours ago, stevenl said:That's exactly what you're doing.Wrong. I am doing no such thing.I did not present one person's testimony and demand the world accept it as gospel to justify a terrorist-supporting position about the destruction of western civilization.I know you think you are being clever, but try again.
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