11 hours ago, boganJoe said:

Trumps making a lot of Iranian friends recently

Not just Iranians. All freedom-lovers have reason to rejoice.

28 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

In my country they have a saying "who sleeps with the dog gets its fleas". You're even a bigger liar than your leader.

https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=NC

https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=NY

You should get a better source

https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/north-carolina

This is just another example of the fake Law and Order president circumventing the law and pretending to be king.

The typical protocol is for a president to have a debate in Congress and try to make an effort to sell the merits of a war to the American people. What Trump is doing now is illegal, and since 75% of the American public was opposed to this war, it's not only illegal but it's against the mandate of the American people.

Key members of Congress are demanding a swift vote on a war powers resolution that would restrain President Donald Trump's military attack on Iran unless the administration wins their approval for what they warn is a potentially illegal campaign that risks pulling the United States into a deeper Middle East conflict.

Both the House and Senate, where the president's Republican Party has a slim majority, had already drafted such resolutions long before the strikes Saturday. Now they are ready to plunge into a rare war powers debate next week that will serve as a referendum on Trump's decision to go it alone on military action without formal authorization from Congress.

"Has President Trump learned nothing from decades of U.S. meddling in Iran and forever wars in the Middle East?" said Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., a leader in the bipartisan effort. He said the strikes on Iran were "a colossal mistake."

https://share.google/Oou0mgCSPiFXHwL08

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

This is just another example of the fake Law and Order president circumventing the law and pretending to be king.

The typical protocol is for a president to have a debate in Congress and try to make an effort to sell the merits of a war to the American people. What Trump is doing now is illegal, and since 75% of the American public was opposed to this war, it's not only illegal but it's against the mandate of the American people.

Key members of Congress are demanding a swift vote on a war powers resolution that would restrain President Donald Trump's military attack on Iran unless the administration wins their approval for what they warn is a potentially illegal campaign that risks pulling the United States into a deeper Middle East conflict.

Both the House and Senate, where the president's Republican Party has a slim majority, had already drafted such resolutions long before the strikes Saturday. Now they are ready to plunge into a rare war powers debate next week that will serve as a referendum on Trump's decision to go it alone on military action without formal authorization from Congress.

"Has President Trump learned nothing from decades of U.S. meddling in Iran and forever wars in the Middle East?" said Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., a leader in the bipartisan effort. He said the strikes on Iran were "a colossal mistake."

https://share.google/Oou0mgCSPiFXHwL08

Another American hating Iran supporter pops up

4 hours ago, CallumWK said:

In my country they have a saying "who sleeps with the dog gets its fleas". You're even a bigger liar than your leader.

https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=NC

https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=NY

Frist, I have no leader.. I've said this many times on AN, I dont really like Trump, however I do agree with allot of what he's doing.

Second, Please dont call me a lair. I said I'm in NC (Goldsboro) this week and these are the current prices.

You can use this app to find the lowest gas prices. I use this wherever I go in the USA, they list the current prices of allot of gas stations.

https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/north-carolina

QuikTrip                            $2.39

 603 W Roosevelt Blvd
Monroe, NC

 

Murphy USA                  $2.37

 14049 E Independence Blvd
Indian Trail, NC

 

BP                                         $2.28

 4102 W HIGHWAY 74
Monroe, NC

 

Marathon                         $2.39 

2746 US-117 S
Goldsboro, NC

 

Watch out for the squirters killing Americans.

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mg3exd4snr2a

What a very flippant way to talk of the deceased.

Rules of Engagement (for instance Geneva Convention) are apparently stupid.

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mg3diqv3o72v

At least traditional allies don't make a habit of spying on you, and recruiting pervert spies to wreak all kinds of havoc on your society.

eg Jonathan Pollard, Rafi Eitan, Robert Maxwell, John Tower, Lawrence Franklin, Steven Rosen, Keith Weissman, Michael Schwartz, Ben Kadish, Jeffrey Epstein.

A couple of points:

If Iran knocked out the desalination plants in the Arab states, they would run out of water in 2 weeks. If that happened they would surely beg the US to send troops in to Iran to end the war.

The cost of one Shahed drone is from $20,000-$50,000 whilst the interceptors, Nasams ( AIM-120) cost $1.2million each. This could soon be a very expensive war for the US.

14 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

People that lost their minds over the fake news that Trump mocked a disabled person, are openly mocking someone for their disability.

Have we reached peak stupidity yet?

The peak stupidity here is someone believing there were bone spurs

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1 hour ago, bannork said:

A couple of points:

If Iran knocked out the desalination plants in the Arab states, they would run out of water in 2 weeks. If that happened they would surely beg the US to send troops in to Iran to end the war.

The cost of one Shahed drone is from $20,000-$50,000 whilst the interceptors, Nasams ( AIM-120) cost $1.2million each. This could soon be a very expensive war for the US.

Yet you want them to fund the Ukraine war. Make up your mind.

6 hours ago, AndreasHG said:

Not just Iranians. All freedom-lovers have reason to rejoice.

This is exactly the same claim that Trump supporters use to defend US actions against Venezuela. How did that work out? With the exception of Maduro and his wife, the same thugs are in charge there. Why would anyone expect a different outcome in Iran? Say what you will about the distrous Iraq war, at least the Bush administration understood that without boots on the ground regime change is extremely unlikely.

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Another American hating Iran supporter pops up

Definitely. The Constitution was written by a gang of America haters. That's why they gave the power to authorize waging war to that supremely anti-American institution known as Congress.

60% of iranians are below 30yo. Up to them to fix the country.

8 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

60% of iranians are below 30yo. Up to them to fix the country.

So much for you break it you own it. Now it's we break it you fix it.

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

So much for you break it you own it. Now it's we break it you fix it.

It was broken for many years. Young Iranians want to fix it. Trump and Israel helped by removing the worst guys. Still more bad guys to remove. Iranians have to stand up for themselves.

2 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

It was broken for many years. Young Iranians want to fix it. Trump and Israel helped by removing the worst guys. Still more bad guys to remove. Iranians have to stand up for themselves.

Easy for you to declare that tens of thousands of Iranians is little access to weaponry should face a well entrenched well armed government force. At least in Iraq, that wasn't a factor. Remember when George H.W. Bush called on the Iraqi people to revolt after the Kuwait war was concluded? How did that turn out?

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

Easy for you to declare that tens of thousands of Iranians is little access to weaponry should face a well entrenched well armed government force. At least in Iraq, that wasn't a factor. Remember when George H.W. Bush called on the Iraqi people to revolt after the Kuwait war was concluded? How did that turn out?

Easy for you to type words on a computer and do nothing.

40 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Definitely. The Constitution was written by a gang of America haters. That's why they gave the power to authorize waging war to that supremely anti-American institution known as Congress.

better read the war powers Act

17 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Easy for you to type words on a computer and do nothing.

He is doing something, he's making sense.

Just now, bannork said:

He is doing something, he's making sense.

Sitting at a computer and pretending to being an expert on the middle east. Doing nothing for the Iranian people whilst criticising Trump for taking action.

2 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Sitting at a computer and pretending to being an expert on the middle east. Doing nothing for the Iranian people whilst criticising Trump for taking action.

So what is Trump's goal in Iran?

He's taken action, to do what?

Just now, bannork said:

So what is Trump's goal in Iran?

He's taken action, to do what?

To remove the leadership, take out the main military threats and encourage Iranians to fix their country.

1 minute ago, khaosokman said:

To remove the leadership, take out the main military threats and encourage Iranians to fix their country.

I wonder how he's going to take out the main military threats without invading the country with boots on the ground .

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

better read the war powers Act

That isn't the point. Clearly, the authors of the Constitution didn't think there was anything inherently wrong with challenging the executive when it came to matters of war.

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

That isn't the point. Clearly, the authors of the Constitution didn't think there was anything inherently wrong with challenging the executive when it came to matters of war.

Cool. Challenge this one on behalf of your masters then,

Just now, Yagoda said:

Cool. Challenge this one on behalf of your masters then,

The founding fathers will be so pleased that you gave me permission.

I am waiting to see if the CIA will follow the handbook for regime change.

Parachuting arms into Iran.

Choosing potential right wing leaders.

Interfering in elections.

46 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

Easy for you to type words on a computer and do nothing.

The Last resort of the resourceless: making it personal.

What makes this particularly amusing is that the person accusing me of this does so by means of typing on a keyboard. Maybe in their mind typing on a keyboard in support of the Trump administration is somehow fundamentally different in effect from typing on a keyboard in opposition?

Anyway, thanks for the irony.

Can anyone make sense of what Trump and his Carnival People actually believe? All of the statements of Trump and his now Administration are not reflected in what he is doing now.

How about the justification for this war? Why do Trump, Hegseth, Rubio and even the Speaker offer a different excuse? A casually dressed Speaker Johnson, after a meeting with Admin officials, said that the US had no choice because Israel was going to attack Iran, so we had to join. That doesn't really sound like "America First".

Trump is so baffled trying to justify the war he started (or had no choice because Israel told him to act), that he wandered off during a briefing about strikes and US military deaths by going on a tangent about his beautiful gold curtains.

“See that nice drape? When that comes down right now you see a very, very deep hole, but in about a year and half from now, you’re gonna see a very, very beautiful building. And there’s your entrance to it right there,” [pointing to the gold curtains] In fact, I think I’ll even, I’ll save money on the doors because you can’t get more beautiful than that. I picked those drapes in my first term. I always liked gold, but I think we can save a lot of money. I just saved, I just saved curtains.”

“It’ll be spectacular, it’ll be the most beautiful ballroom. I believe it’s because I’ve built many a ballroom. I believe it’s going to be the most beautiful ballroom anywhere in the world,”

If your sons and daughters are now in harm's way because of Trump, does a rambling monologue about gold curtains and a ballroom make you feel comforted? If you are one of the service people in harm's way, do you think Trump really cares about the danger you face?

About the first noted US deaths, Trump said, "That's the way it is"

Parsing Trump's actions and relationships, it's quite clear he really doesn't care about the hardships of the Iranian people or whether they deserve freedom. Note Trump is best buddies with MbS, a miscreant who runs a monarchy, not a democracy, a man who ordered the flaying alive of a WaPo journalist, a man who rules a land where the mere practice of Trump's supposed Christianity is a crime punishable by public beheading. Oh, and since Trump has access to classified intel, he knows full well Saudi Arabia has long been, and remains, a funder of Sunni Islamic terrorism.

Trump couldn't care less about freedom. He cares about what's in it for him: money and a diversion from Epstein.