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How could USA-Trump have so vastly underestimated Iran's military?

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47 minutes ago, Wingate said:

You like genocide?

Shake your head, maybe bang it against a coconut tree for a few minutes. Then hit the keyboard and continue embarrassing yourself.

Last count was Obama slaughtered > 800 civilians with his errant missiles. Please confirm this.

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  • theshu25
    theshu25

    Mainly he underestamated the opposition because Trump is no more then a village idiot playing war games. The truth about all the idiots dealings will all come out one day and peopel will see the moron

  • JackGats
    JackGats

    It's a bit ironic that an Islamic Republic which holds marriage to a 9-year-old sacred sets out to vaccinate the world against a teenlover, but that's what we get for erasing any such distinctions.

  • boganJoe
    boganJoe

    then there is "opinion", forcefully and at length. It's not disguised as neutral journalism; it's explicit anti-war/anti-U.S.-empire commentary from a prominent critic. This is almost entirely opinion

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2 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

so then, what could they be waiting for, the marine force currently enroute to seize Kharg Island and essentially control the oil flows out of Iran?? Maybe they are waiting for Obama and Biden to send some pallets of cash so they can build some missiles? Keep in mind the US just destroyed all military targets on Kharg Island yesterday. The island is now for Pete Hegseths taking.

It's over (Iran's over), everyone knows it EXCEPT the hapless haters.

You want me to tell you why they have chosen the strategy they have?

Anyway, whey you say "It's over", I really think you mean....

It's not over, 'til it's over.

Concerning hapless haters, is this how you classify those who might hold opinions differing from your own?

Were you ever a member of the debate team at your school?

What would your team have to say about your statement, if they were here to hear it today?

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

You want me to tell you why they have chosen the strategy they have?

Take it easy, breath deep and refrain from harming yourself. And do enjoy witnessing a powerful and strong leader in Trump destroy Iran's terrorist regime. Tell me you're not a hater, that hates America (because you hate Trump so much) accounting for your bizarre comments of silliness!

Which do you hate more, Trump, his policies, America??

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7 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

Shake your head, maybe bang it against a coconut tree for a few minutes. Then hit the keyboard and continue embarrassing yourself.

Last count was Obama slaughtered > 800 civilians with his errant missiles. Please confirm this.

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But but...Obama! 😀

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1 minute ago, boganJoe said:

Take it easy, breath deep and refrain from harming yourself. And do enjoy witnessing a powerful and strong leader in Trump destroy Iran's terrorist regime. Tell me you're not a hater, that hates America accounting for your bizarre comments of silliness!

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Lol! A hater (previously known as Illisdean and Darbie Foos) calling other posters haters! 😁

1 hour ago, boganJoe said:

Iran should surrender, give it up before Hegseth turns Iran into a dust filled parking lot full of goat dung.

Iran will never surrender. They haven't started a war in over 200 years but will get revenge, just wait.

Don't complain of the another 9/11 or nuclear bomb on Tel Aviv. Frankly, Iran are within their rights to obliterate Israel.

3 minutes ago, candide said:

haters!

And....the most daft too. Why all the stupid comments from all the haters here? You feeling embarrassed for your impotent rhetoric since you all hate Trump, America, even your pathetic selves. I enjoy sitting back watching how feckless you have all become since Trump has easily rotted the insides of your skull with his masterful anti-hater tactics and you dumb-asses fall for it every time. You, candide are the go to leader in this respect, bar none. Enjoy your feckless deranged existence. Only what, another 1,043 days of your Trump imposed brain mash!

I know exactly what triggers all you haters, it's when Trump triumphs, and he TRIUMPHS often as you have noticed. So enjoy.

This is good pic for haters, what do you think?? (haters always ignore Trumps WINNING).WSJ on Trump Iran excursion.jpeg

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3 minutes ago, boganJoe said:

And....the most daft too. Why all the stupid comments from all the haters here? You feeling embarrassed for your impotent rhetoric since you all hate Trump, America, even your pathetic selves. I enjoy sitting back watching how feckless you have all become since Trump has easily rotted the insides of your skull with his masterful anti-hater tactics and you dumb-asses fall for it every time. You, candide are the go to leader in this respect, bar none. Enjoy your feckless deranged existence. Only what, another 1,043 days of your Trump imposed brain mash!

I know exactly what triggers all you haters, it's when Trump triumphs, and he TRIUMPHS often as you have noticed. So enjoy.

This is good pic for haters, what do you think?? (haters always ignore Trumps WINNING).WSJ on Trump Iran excursion.jpeg

Lol!

Drill baby drill never happened, it was a slogan for his stupid followers. 🤣

And the shale revolution (and US energy independence) occured under Obama! 😃

And the current level of production is largely due to...Biden! 😀

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18 minutes ago, candide said:

haters!

Exactly what you are.Throw in losers too, just like HRC, and Kamala....47 to the rescue.

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Bombing Iran will only achieve limited, short term gains......but maybe that is all Trump wants????

Troops have to go in to complete the 'win' in every sense, militarily, politically, administratively....if not, Iran will just rise from the ashes and the cycle will repeat.

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5 minutes ago, MIke B Bad said:

Bombing Iran will only achieve limited, short term gains......but maybe that is all Trump wants????

Troops have to go in to complete the 'win' in every sense, militarily, politically, administratively....if not, Iran will just rise from the ashes and the cycle will repeat.

That's what Trump wanted. Now he's stuck in it!

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Trump listened to Jared who was doing Bibi’s bidding.

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1 hour ago, candide said:

Lol! A hater (previously known as Illisdean and Darbie Foos) calling other posters haters! 😁

There is no cure for an ideologue of the first kind.

Even more importantly, debating a fool is a fool's errand.

We humans, at least most of us, are never swayed by a logical argument which contradicts our closely-held beliefs.

Therefore, to try to convince others using logic can be hazardous to our health, as well as totally counterproductive for our continuing happiness and wellbeing.

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2 hours ago, JimCM said:

Frankly, Iran are within their rights to obliterate Israel.

Maybe not so sure about other attacks but they are NOW well within their rights to respond to an illegal war instigated by the warmonger Trump!.

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54 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

illegal war instigated by

I think you mean Bibi.

It was he, for sure, that has been egging on Trump.

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

Maybe not so sure about other attacks but they are NOW well within their rights to respond to an illegal war instigated by the warmonger Trump!.

6 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I think you mean Bibi.

It was he, for sure, that has been egging on Trump.

Against forum rules you have truncated my post/quote and therefore distorted the meaning of my original post!

5 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Even more so, now that dear leader insulted Canada and cut off his own Aluminum supply.

UraNIUM, PotassIUM, MagnesIUM, etc. Why alumiNUM, and not AluminIUM?

FUN FACT: Iran and the Shia religion tolerate transgenderism - so ladyboys can serve in the military which is more than you can say for the US. They may even have a Katoey Foreign Legion - get thee behind me Great Stan - ooh err....

5 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Untrue, and this warning from Gemini, which is based on known facts, tells a different story.

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And what is the source of this Gemini?

Not much Iranian military left now.....

How could they under-estimate ?

Ego. Pride. Arrogance. Sense of entilement. That unfortunately are carachteristic of american and European governance.

5 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Untrue, and this warning from Gemini, which is based on known facts, tells a different story.

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Looks like Gemini lacks a TS/SCI clearance.

"one week" LOL!

And shrimps can whistle Don't Worry, Be Happy

1 hour ago, wil iam not said:

UraNIUM, PotassIUM, MagnesIUM, etc. Why alumiNUM, and not AluminIUM?

Because we fixed a lot of British spelling mistakes 150 years ago. I won't say it was all done correctly, but a lot of French U's disappeared.

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55 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Because we fixed a lot of British spelling mistakes 150 years ago. I won't say it was all done correctly, but a lot of French U's disappeared.

They were not mistakes, they were just your USA''s inability to understand the nuances of spelling, grammar etc!

13 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

They were not mistakes, they were just your USA''s inability to understand the nuances of spelling, grammar etc!

Work on your apostrophes.

22 hours ago, boganJoe said:

Well, you can try and call the good guys liars, but as usual libtards have no proof of anything except for their overt and ongoing buffoonery.

Prove this wrong, "show us you're not all feckless buffoons":

Missiles are down -90%, but as of yesterday,

one-way drone attacks are down -95%!

  • "Iran has no air defenses, Iran has no air force, Iran has no navy, their missiles, their missile launchers and drones being destroyed or shot out of the sky."

  • "Their missile volume is down 90 percent. Their one-way attack drones yesterday, down 95 percent."

  • "And as the world is seeing, they are exercising sheer desperation in the Straits of Hormuz. Something we're dealing with, we have been dealing with it, and don't need to worry about it."

  • "We're on plan to defeat, destroy, disable all of their meaningful military capabilities at a pace the world has never seen before."

https://defensescoop.com/2026/03/13/iranian-attack-drones-hegseth-gen-caine-operation-epic-fury/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/watch-hesgeth-says-more-than-15000-enemy-targets-have-been-hit-in-iran-conflict

How old is this war?

Normal wars goes in waves, regroup, new tactics and plan new attacks. Improve improve and secure lines.

An good example in comparison, is George W. Bush famous words

Mission accomplished!

Iran is playing for years, Years Trump do not have, mid term elections coming up before this conflict is over.

Trump is just plain stupid. A toddler knows that when they touch a hot stove, it hurts. Trump didn't even realize that Iran would close the Strait of Hormuz. Trump isn't capable of second level thinking.
IQ probably lower than 90 or 85.
And why did 77 million people vote for him?
Maybe because of this? https://www.facebook.com/mjjochum/posts/pfbid032CRbvC3Cg4sYEtrvDCaNiNoDSTKy76nPwgR4X6wCwsmaTWteG4P9ZcenCsCEQRfjl

Trump seems to have a pathological fear of having anyone in the room that's more intelligent than he is which is kind of shocking considering how dim he is. So he tends to pick from the absolute bottom of the barrel and nearly every member of his administration is testament to that.

However one would expect more from the military, but the issue is likely the fact that Trump is just not listening to advice, as usual. If you think you're the smartest man in the world then I suppose there's no need for advice. And that's the very thing that makes him one of the most dangerous men in the world. Most leaders understand their limitations and use experts to bolster their credentials and their arguments, that's just not part of Trump's M.O., never has been, never will be. He is far too ignorant to see the need for expert advice.

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Hubris, arrogance and the simple belief that the most expensive military in the world is enough, has gotten America into countless wars and conflicts, all of which have been lost for the past 81 years.

America simply does not seem to know how to win a war, and their lack of preparedness, the lack of intelligence, and the lack of preparation in this particular case is rather stunning, and very typical of the circus goon. His arrogance always gets the better of him, and seems to always prevent him from making wise decisions.

Donnie boy. Dumb and dumber.

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