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Three US Tourists Face Visa Revocation in Koh Phangan Over Misconduct

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10 hours ago, dxrdxr said:

They were carrying a “Moshiach” flag.

It is a fringe Jewish group that espouses the coming of the messiah. Followers evangelize their beliefs around the world.

It is controversial, even in Israel.

Is there any connextion with the "Lubavitch messiah"?

https://bulletin.hds.harvard.edu/after-the-death-of-chabads-messiah/

The chabad group has gotten in the news for their activities in Pai.

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14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What statement did Isreal make ?

I didn't say Israel made the statement. I just said it sums up Israel. Israel not Isreal.

32 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

Just about sums up Israel to make such a statement.

2 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

I didn't say Israel made the statement.

Yes, you did ,

You quite clearly did say that Israel made a statement

16 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

Small hats again

Jew haters again.

9 hours ago, Grusa said:

I am not sure either is correct. Judaism, or Jewish, refer to a religion, not a race. Israeli is a nationality not a race.

There are Moslem and Christian Israelis, along with a smattering of other religions and sects.

There are Israeli jews with backgrounds from many European and other countries, truly a mongrel country ....... just like the USofA.

Perhaps they should be called Arabs, living as they do in a corner of Arabia?

They are Jews by religion, and just like Christians and Muslims, are of various national and ethnic origins.

11 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

This is a new one and very strange at that. So NOW you're telling us the ethnicity of foreign nationals. Good so far but what's this "Israeli ethnicity" concept? Don't you mean Jewish? Israel is the state of the Jewish people in case you didn't know.

There is no such things as Israeli ethnicity.

Clearly a lost in translation thingie.

8 hours ago, BerndD said:

This is well known, nevertheless: Mormons are also Christians: they are 'Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints'.

Perhaps an important distinction is that Mormons following the Book of Mormon and not the Bible.

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yes, you did ,

You quite clearly did say that Israel made a statement

No I didn't. I was quoting to who ever originated the report. They used the term Israel ethnicity. So to sum up says every thing that "some people" think of Israel. Is that better? At least I can spell Israel. "What statement did Isreal make"

9 hours ago, Lee4Life said:

Where did the news post say it was a national flag? I only read that it contained a religious symbol.

Yeah. Confusing. The Israeli flag obviously has a Jewish Star of David.

If it was that, the response would be weird considering there are scadas of flags with Christian and Muslim symbols.

8 hours ago, Acharn said:

Perhaps they are dual nationals. I feel very strongly against Jewish Americans who get Israeli passports, serve in the IDF (Israeli Occupation Force), and then return to America. I have nothing against most American Jews, although I've only known a few, but the Zionists are bad.

You don't know the definition of Zionism.

48 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

But Just about sums up Israel to make such a statement.

OK, so you wasn't claiming that Israel made a statement, glad we got that cleared up

1 hour ago, placnx said:

Why not say Israeli-American Jews?

I'm not clear that's what they are, are you?

If they are just American Jews, they are not Israelis, just U.S. citizens who are Jews.

If they are Americans who made Aliyah to Israel, they are not sure what they are called in Israel.

If they Israelis who got U.S. citizenship, then Israeli Americans.

5 hours ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

What the actual ****? The Hebrew whatsup invitation just says "come celebrate passover with us". Hardly a malicious activity and it seems like they were just recruiting Israelis for a holiday gathering.

You're right.

It's Passover. A super important holiday for religious Jews.

11 hours ago, BerndD said:

And what about the American "missionaries", in black suits, white shirts and socks, mostly on bicycles, who want to convert the happy Thais to sad Christianity?

Are they waving American flags?

Is there clothing provocative?

Is riding a bicycle illegal?

What about their Constitutional protections for freedom of speech.

What about their Constitutionally protected religious freedoms.

And, as already pointed out, they're Mormons and, from your tone, they seem to be far happier than you.

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

OK, so you wasn't claiming that Israel made a statement, glad we got that cleared up

wasn't? Is that weren't? Certainly not. Just illustrating how some report writers can't get things right. Like spelling and grammar.

10 hours ago, Purdey said:

Thailand has accepted missionaries for at least 400 years. One reason no one minded was they were often unsuccessful.

Jewish missionaries have a disadvantage is that when they say to the male convert, "Put your family jewels on this chopping block" their success rate goes down (literally).

Jews do not proselytize.

2 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

Certainly not. Just illustrating how some report writers can't get things right.

What did the report writers get wrong ?

(And Geoff , you are not teaching English now . don't take your work home with you .)

Thailand can take any action that they please.

However, this being a discussion forum, we can make our own decisions on whether the actions in this case are reasonable.

Personally, I haven't seen nearly enough clear and credible info about this to make such a judgement either way.

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'm not clear that's what they are, are you?

If they are just American Jews, they are not Israelis, just U.S. citizens who are Jews.

If they are Americans who made Aliyah to Israel, they are not sure what they are called in Israel.

If they Israelis who got U.S. citizenship, then Israeli Americans.

It might me more accurate to say American Israelis, if they were born in the US and then claimed Israeli citizenship because they are Jewish. On the other hand, if they then went back to living in the US, then they would be resuming their US identity with a modified moniker: Israeli Americans. QED

1 minute ago, placnx said:

It might me more accurate to say American Israelis, if they were born in the US and then claimed Israeli citizenship because they are Jewish. On the other hand, if they then went back to living in the US, then they would be resuming their US identity with a modified moniker: Israeli Americans. QED

No I think that's wrong.

Israeli Americans would only apply to originally Israeli people who became U.S. citizens.

What you're describing would usually be U.S. citizens and residents with dual nationality.

27 minutes ago, placnx said:

Perhaps an important distinction is that Mormons following the Book of Mormon and not the Bible.

Apparently they "identify" as christians, but most other branches of christianity don't accept them as such Strange people from what I've seen and heard of them

10 hours ago, dxrdxr said:

They were carrying a “Moshiach” flag.

It is a fringe Jewish group that espouses the coming of the messiah. Followers evangelize their beliefs around the world.

It is controversial, even in Israel.

Oh, I see that now.

The way I see this now is that PROBABLY they were doing this activilty in a location where there a lot of Israeli Jews who MIGHT be interested in what they were promoting.

Especially a Passover event which Jews of any kind abroad might be legitimately and innocently interested in even if run by a controversial sect.

From the Thai authorities POV or authorities anywhere, there is now a heightened sensitivity that anything Israeli or even just Jewish might objectively become a security risk. A headache they don't need.

I think these religious nutters might have been better off just discreetly approaching people that could be visible as Israel and talked to them one on one. Maybe they would have still gotten into trouble especially dressed like that, but likely less chance.

Although information is still thin on the ground, this looks to me now like a situation where both sides probably have a reasonable narrative.

But this being Thailand, their decisions and actions rule the day.

11 hours ago, RMK54 said:

The key to success here in Thailand is to leave that other life behind to live a fresh new life. Bringing troubles here is offering nothing but trouble!

I don't think inviting Jews to observe Passover is bringing trouble.

6 hours ago, chippendale said:

But Thailand was promised to them 3,000 years ago!

And jokes like that stopped being funny 3000 years ago.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What did the report writers get wrong ?

(And Geoff , you are not teaching English now . don't take your work home with you .)

I am certainly not and English teacher. The report writers wrote ethnic Israelis didn't they? Had these been British the whole thread would have been dedicated to slagging Brits off. Mention an Israeli and straight away any bad mention of Israelis is off limits.

3 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

I am certainly not and English teacher. The report writers wrote ethnic Israelis didn't they? Had these been British the whole thread would have been dedicated to slagging Brits off. Mention an Israeli and straight away any bad mention of Israelis is off limits.

EH ?

This whole thread seems to be slagging off Israelis .

Its not "off limits" to slag Israelis off" at all .

Slagging off and abusing Israelis/jews seems to be this boards most popular past time .

About 75 % of all abuse on this forum is directed at Israelis/Jews , its very much NOT off limits

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Although information is still thin on the ground, this looks to me now like a situation where both sides probably have a reasonable narrative.

But this being Thailand, their decisions and actions rule the day.

Oh stop it...

Flag waving. NO.

Secret locations. Take it elsewhere.

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

About 75 % of all abuse on this forum is directed at Israelis/Jews , its very much NOT off limits

Absolute RUBBISH.

21 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

I am certainly not and English teacher. The report writers Had these been British the whole thread would have been dedicated to slagging Brits off.

I very much doubt that , in the thread below about Non Israelis behaving terribly (French-Brits), there is no slagging off of all people from their Country (French-Brits)

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