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US fighter shot down over Iran

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4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I didn't know it was AI ... could be.

More troll, it is clearly stated in the description and the comments

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  • Alan Zweibel
    Alan Zweibel

    A typically thoughtful response.

  • Celsius
    Celsius

    Deary me.... the best of the best. Maybe Yagoda could join search and rescue mission.

  • connda
    connda

    As this unprovoked war of aggression against a sovereign nation progresses, and as more and more US military resources are deployed to destroy it in the name of creating chaos and stealing their oil -

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1 hour ago, connda said:

You attempting to talk to members who don't study history or have any knowledge of comparative religions. You'll have more luck explaining your position to a Thai water buffalo. These members are ideologues who simply repeat propaganda talking point they here on US mainstream news or out of the mouths of the POTUS or members of his cabinet. They don't have the ability to think and analyze by themselves.

I just them in my "Ignore" list now.

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I agree with you but other you not to ignore all these guys. We have a responsibility to call them out.

There are not many Zionists or Israelis defending the indefensible now, as they have some integrity and more brain cells than the buffalo; but there are a few left sadly who can't see through the US or Israeli propaganda.

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

It appears that the facility was not destroyed. The reports indicate that only the sections where there was evidence it was being used for military purposes and/or had dual use were neutralized.

What are your sources for theses so called reports?

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

What are your sources for theses so called reports?

Propagandatong 😂

16 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Yeah back on topic, Pavehawks are out, it could have been a Manpad (thats why we cant retire the A-10 and this conflict shows it) Iran is offering a reward for the Pilots, (probably so they can do something sick and depraved as those scum do) but regardless of this little action, it shows we need to do some more with the rats in their holes. More B-52s necessary, use up some bombs before their expiration date.

As a reply to your comments on the evil Iranians doing “sick and depraved” things to any captured US invaders I invite you to think about treatment of prisoners in two US places of detention: Guantanamo Bay and Abu Grahb.

Think on!

2 hours ago, Red Forever said:

As a reply to your comments on the evil Iranians doing “sick and depraved” things to any captured US invaders I invite you to think about treatment of prisoners in two US places of detention: Guantanamo Bay and Abu Grahb.

Criminals who did that were punished. As opposed to your side, where torturers. terrorists, murderers and rapists are celebrated or protected or promoted.

5 hours ago, JimCM said:

I agree with you but other you not to ignore all these guys. We have a responsibility to call them out.

There are not many Zionists or Israelis defending the indefensible now, as they have some integrity and more brain cells than the buffalo; but there are a few left sadly who can't see through the US or Israeli propaganda.

How is your life under Jewish rule these days 555555555555

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8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

How is your life under Jewish rule these days 555555555555

You tell us, you're the American....coffee1

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

How is your life under Jewish rule these days 555555555555

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

How is your life under Jewish rule these days 555555555555

Huh? I'm not American, I'm English.

57 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

You tell us, you're the American....coffee1

He's not, he's a closet Israeli.

2 minutes ago, JimCM said:

He's not, he's a closet Israeli.

You're a closet HAMAS member.

1 minute ago, JimCM said:

Huh? I'm not American, I'm English.

Obviously 5555555555.

21 minutes ago, JimCM said:

He's not, he's a closet Israeli.

I wish I could get an Israeli passport

19 minutes ago, TedG said:

You're a closet HAMAS member.

Closet?

7 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

What are your sources for theses so called reports?

The biological weapons facilities were targeted, and hopefully destroyed. The Institute itself was not. The calim of complete facility destruction is being made by Iran. The "source" upon which the claim was made in Asean Now The Telegraph, is sufficient: It states heavy damage, and NOT destroyed. The article itself relies upon photographs provided by the Iranian government.

The very same article offers the following references;

.... Iran had moved its biological weapons research “away from dedicated military sites and embedded it within civilian institutions – the Razi and Pasteur Institutes chief among them”.

“The facilities reportedly housing Iran’s programme are scattered across military, academic and research institutions. Many are likely dual-use sites with mixed civilian and military functions, where the line between legitimate research and weapons work has been deliberately blurred for decades,”....

You may find this article in the the recent bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, an anti nuclear weapons group, helpful What should be done about Iran’s potential secret chemical and biological weapons programs?

By Christina McAllister, Richard T. Cupitt | Opinion | April 2, 2026

https://thebulletin.org/2026/04/what-should-be-done-about-irans-potential-secret-chemical-and-biological-weapons-programs/

10 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The biological weapons facilities were targeted, and hopefully destroyed. The Institute itself was not. The calim of complete facility destruction is being made by Iran. The "source" upon which the claim was made in Asean Now The Telegraph, is sufficient: It states heavy damage, and NOT destroyed. The article itself relies upon photographs provided by the Iranian government.

The very same article offers the following references;

.... Iran had moved its biological weapons research “away from dedicated military sites and embedded it within civilian institutions – the Razi and Pasteur Institutes chief among them”.

“The facilities reportedly housing Iran’s programme are scattered across military, academic and research institutions. Many are likely dual-use sites with mixed civilian and military functions, where the line between legitimate research and weapons work has been deliberately blurred for decades,”....

You may find this article in the the recent bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, an anti nuclear weapons group, helpful What should be done about Iran’s potential secret chemical and biological weapons programs?

By Christina McAllister, Richard T. Cupitt | Opinion | April 2, 2026

https://thebulletin.org/2026/04/what-should-be-done-about-irans-potential-secret-chemical-and-biological-weapons-programs/

Ah, the Telegraph cheesy

deliberate attempt by the media outlet to control the narrative and divert it in favour of Israel.

https://institute.aljazeera.net/en/ajr/article/3402

Rather depressing to see the rush to defend the inappropriately named Pasteur Institute of Iran, without any understanding of its activity. People of limited intelligence have accepted that because the name is the same that they are linked. There has been NO relationship between the Iranian named facility with the Pasteur Institute of France since 1946. The French facility emphasized the Iranian independence after the biological weapons activity was discovered.

The facility that was targeted, was listed by the British government in 2008 as an entity of potential concern for WMD-related procurement; and listed by the Japanese government in 2007 as an entity of concern for biological and chemical weapon proliferation. In 2014, the US government (Obama was President) agreed with the previous assessments. The designations have not been reversed.

10 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Does the Treaty Establishing the UN outlaw nations from launching wars?

Gemini said

The short answer is yes, but with two very specific exceptions. The UN Charter (signed in 1945) was designed specifically to "save succeeding generations from the scourge of war." It fundamentally changed international law by moving from a system where war was a legitimate tool of state policy to one where the use of force is generally illegal.

1. The General Prohibition

The core of this "outlawing" is found in Article 2(4) of the UN Charter. It states:

This is a broad prohibition. It doesn't just outlaw a formal "declaration of war"; it forbids almost any physical use of military force or even the threat of using it against another country.


2. The Two Legal Exceptions

The Charter recognizes that there are situations where force might be necessary. There are only two ways a nation can legally use force under the UN framework:

  • Self-Defense (Article 51): Nations have an "inherent right" to individual or collective self-defense if an armed attack occurs. This right exists only until the UN Security Council has taken measures to restore peace.

  • Security Council Authorization (Chapter VII): Under Article 42, the UN Security Council can authorize "action by air, sea, or land forces" to maintain or restore international peace and security. This is often referred to as a "collective security" action.

You are incapable of independent thought and analysis. Once again, you offer a cut and paste from AI derived information.

Iran initiated a state of hostile aggression that included acts of terrorism against the USA, Israel and the Gulf Arabs. Their collective actions are legitimate self defense.

Tell you what, you can offer your legal expertise if and when there is a case. 🤗

36 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You are incapable of independent thought and analysis. Once again, you offer a cut and paste from AI derived information.

Iran initiated a state of hostile aggression that included acts of terrorism against the USA, Israel and the Gulf Arabs. Their collective actions are legitimate self defense.

Tell you what, you can offer your legal expertise if and when there is a case. 🤗

Apparently, you are never going to give up on this nonsense about independent thought. Of what value is thought that is untethered to reality? You think making things up is superior to that? You think that facts and reasoning are essentially in opposition to each other?

What acts of terrorism were recently committed by Iran against these parties? When was the last time that Iran attacked the US? Or the Arab Gulf states? If the war was justified why did the US use the false claim that Iranian attacks were imminent? You really have no answer for why it is legal for the US to ignore its obligations under the treaty it signed with the UN. In the past, the US sought and received authorizations. Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the Constitution which specifies that treaties are the supreme law of the land. Maybe you should get acquainted with it.

It is not nonsense to point out that you have yet to demonstrate original thought. Your content is cut and paste, or AI generated.

You asked multiple questions. Why don't you do your AI search as usual? Is it because the answers do not support your political agenda?

When was the last time that Iran attacked the US?

The long list of Iranian sponsored attacks has been provided multiple times. The Iranians have been exposed in two attempts to assassinate President Trump. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.

Or the Arab Gulf states?

In addition to the ongoing bombardment of its neighbors, Iran actively supports multiple terrorist groups that seek to disrupt the Gulf states;

Iraq- The shiite militias which continue to attack the Iraqi government are proxies of Iran.

Bahrain- Iranian agents encourage civil unrest.

Kuwait- It has bullied the government on oil transits and threatened violence

UAE- It has repeatedly threatened the UAE

Iran has repeatedly called for the death of Americans and the destruction of the USA. Don't try and deny it, because it was a regular feature of Friday prayers in apostate shiite mosques.

Don't play constitutional lawyer with me. Stick to cutting and pasting AI content. Your shrill and incessant promotion of a specific political agenda underpins everything you do.

24 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

It is not nonsense to point out that you have yet to demonstrate original thought. Your content is cut and paste, or AI generated.

You asked multiple questions. Why don't you do your AI search as usual? Is it because the answers do not support your political agenda?

When was the last time that Iran attacked the US?

The long list of Iranian sponsored attacks has been provided multiple times. The Iranians have been exposed in two attempts to assassinate President Trump. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.

Or the Arab Gulf states?

In addition to the ongoing bombardment of its neighbors, Iran actively supports multiple terrorist groups that seek to disrupt the Gulf states;

Iraq- The shiite militias which continue to attack the Iraqi government are proxies of Iran.

Bahrain- Iranian agents encourage civil unrest.

Kuwait- It has bullied the government on oil transits and threatened violence

UAE- It has repeatedly threatened the UAE

Iran has repeatedly called for the death of Americans and the destruction of the USA. Don't try and deny it, because it was a regular feature of Friday prayers in apostate shiite mosques.

Don't play constitutional lawyer with me. Stick to cutting and pasting AI content. Your shrill and incessant promotion of a specific political agenda underpins everything you do.

24 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

It is not nonsense to point out that you have yet to demonstrate original thought. Your content is cut and paste, or AI generated.

You asked multiple questions. Why don't you do your AI search as usual? Is it because the answers do not support your political agenda?

When was the last time that Iran attacked the US?

The long list of Iranian sponsored attacks has been provided multiple times. The Iranians have been exposed in two attempts to assassinate President Trump. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.

Or the Arab Gulf states?

In addition to the ongoing bombardment of its neighbors, Iran actively supports multiple terrorist groups that seek to disrupt the Gulf states;

Iraq- The shiite militias which continue to attack the Iraqi government are proxies of Iran.

Bahrain- Iranian agents encourage civil unrest.

Kuwait- It has bullied the government on oil transits and threatened violence

UAE- It has repeatedly threatened the UAE

Iran has repeatedly called for the death of Americans and the destruction of the USA. Don't try and deny it, because it was a regular feature of Friday prayers in apostate shiite mosques.

Don't play constitutional lawyer with me. Stick to cutting and pasting AI content. Your shrill and incessant promotion of a specific political agenda underpins everything you do.

So, my content that isn't linked to other sources is AI generated? You got proof of that.

I asked you when was the last time Iran attacked the US? You had no answer for that. Instead you invoked irrelevancies.

As for the ongoing bombardment of its neighbors. First off, Saudi Arabia and the UAE leaders were urging America and Israel to attack the Iranians. And the Iranians didn't begin bombarding their neighbors until the US and Israel attacked. You're confusing cause and effest. Trump made clear that this was an existential attack on the Iranian regime. The consequences were predictable and predicted. The Iranian government would do whatever it takes to survive. They don't have nuclear weapons to ward off such threats. So they have to work with what they've got.

Just because the militias in Iraq are Shiites, that doesn't mean that the Iranians control them. And these Shiite militias are actually part of the government and are funded by the government. Are you aware that about 60% of Iraqis are Shiites? That the government is run by Shiites? I wouldn't be surprised if these Shiite militias create more problems for American interests in Iraq. And that Iranians approve of it. That doesn't mean that they orchestrate it.

The Shiites compose the majority of Bahreinis. They are treated very badly by the Sunni monarchy. With or without Iran, there is a lot of bad blood between those 2 groups.

No, I'm not a constitutional lawyer. What has that got to do with the fact that the Constititution very clearly says that treaties are the supreme law of the land? When someone resorts to making personal comments, that's because they've got no good argument to muster. In other words, you've got nothing.

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