11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Iran’s army, are the people who wiped out that U.S. special forces debacle that we are told was a ‘pilot rescue’

The same Iranian army that have kept the straits of Hormuz closed while simultaneously demonstrating Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ to be as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

Tell me about the "wiped out" Special forces in the pilot rescue. I am genuinely curious, did not think there were any casualties on the American side.

It's official Big Don's favorite word tariff has been replaced with two weeks 🤔

1 hour ago, Sigmund said:

With all the prices increasing in America, Tump and his cronies, are politically doomed.

No matter where in the world, when prices and taxes increase, it means the fall of the current political regime or political bodies.

Except in Thailand with the Junta in full control.🙃🙃

Trump is one of the world's worst negotiators and he's one of the world's weakest men. Capitulation is his M.O.

Iran is in an infinitely stronger position now than they were before this war started despite all the damage. They were almost pariahs at the beginning of the war and due to Trump's spectacular level of recklessness and extreme lack of skill, the goodwill that the world now feels towards Iran is likely the most they felt in many many decades.

The regime leadership was replaced by a man who is far more hardline than the Ayatollah, so his supporters cannot even attempt to try to put a happy face on this. This is a dismal failure on the part of America and nothing has been gained from this, except enormous amounts of economic decimation and huge waves of inflation. Iran kicked his huge butt.

The garbage prince has failed dismally. Trump is toxic street trash.

32 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Iran’s army, are the people who wiped out that U.S. special forces debacle that we are told was a ‘pilot rescue’

The same Iranian army that have kept the straits of Hormuz closed while simultaneously demonstrating Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ to be as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

Oh yes, the pilot rescue with a still-unnamed pilot who, despite being injured, walked miles to a mountain crevice at 7,000 feet, trailed by hundreds of special forces. If Trump were anything other than an idiot, this could be framed as a 'strategic pause.' Instead, the real lesson learned is Iran’s resilience and their capability to strike back all while the Houthis haven’t even been fully utilized yet.

This was Israel’s last chance to secure outside help in defeating Iran. Now, China and Russia are waiting in the wings to help Iran 'build back better.' Israel’s high point is now long in the past, assailed by economic headwinds and the massive internal drag of a Haredi community that refuses to serve or work. Meanwhile, the world is tiring of a small country prepared to collapse the global economy for its own perceived security.

The Arab states will have learned that the US is an unreliable partner and will pivot elsewhere. China and Russia are ready offering trade and support without the moral lectures. Pax Americana is dying before our eyes, and Trump has only accelerated that inevitable decline

Oh and Trump he's finished just like @Yagoda who seems to have gone AWOL from the pity party he should come I'm serving humble pie washed down with MAGA tears.

49 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Hmmm.... Iran no longer has a functioning navy or air force or army. The regime has been decapitated, apparently now being run by semi-paralyzed gay man in a hospital. Its ability to project terror has been eliminated. The Straits are open again.

But it is early hours. At the end of two weeks, we will know more. Frankly, any deal that leaves the death cult in charge in Iran will be a loss. There is also the chance that a new and secular Iran could be formed and take a place in the world of nations. But in the end, talking is better than bombing.

I've looked for quotes and statements about anyone from Netanyahu to Trump who ever feared Iran's navy or air force. Can't seem to find any. Looking at the map, I also don't think Iran's navy or armed forces were ever a threat to Israel. Have a navy, don't have a navy; it matters little.

Missiles and drones, OTOH, are something that could threaten other countries. Imagine a nuke warhead on an Iranian missile taken out by a Patriot over Tel Aviv. It wouldn't be shrapnel hitting the ground.

Now Iran is still far from enriching uranium to the level required for a working fission device. If they could achieve that, then they would have to design a bomb, and then miniaturize it (as North Korea learned to do during Trump 1.0) so as to fit it on a missile. Five years? Ten years?

Anyway, so far Iran is no farther from developing a bomb than they were on 27 February. They have all the MEU they had on that day, and still have perhaps as much as one half of their missile inventory, per US intelligence.

Now, they are earning much more money selling oil, as the price jumped from $58/bbl to still $96/bbl. Since they don't really need a navy, and still have probably 99% of the soldiers they had on 27 February, they can channel all of their new found wealth into uranium enrichment, bomb and missile development. They can even rightly claim it is for defensive purposes, since it was Iran who was attacked.

Iran still has the groups they funded, too....Hezbollah and the Houthis in Yemen.

Iran will spend the next two weeks assuming talks will fail, so they will fine tune their strategy, shift pieces around the board, decide what targets they will hit when talks fail, and consider even more effective ways to control the Strait, perhaps mining it in the next two weeks.

Like them or not, Iran has to be pretty pleased with how they faced up to, and hosed Trump.

48 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Hmmm.... Iran no longer has a functioning navy or air force or army. The regime has been decapitated, apparently now being run by semi-paralyzed gay man in a hospital. Its ability to project terror has been eliminated. The Straits are open again.

But it is early hours. At the end of two weeks, we will know more. Frankly, any deal that leaves the death cult in charge in Iran will be a loss. There is also the chance that a new and secular Iran could be formed and take a place in the world of nations. But in the end, talking is better than bombing.

According to America's own intelligence estimates, Iran still had about 70% of its missile and drone stock left. Iran can still project terror. The Houthis in Yemen are unscathed.

Russia can resupply Iran with drones via the Caspian Sea, and there is nothing America can do to stop it. China is shipping sodium perchlorate to Iran. You know, rocket fuel.

Simple logic says the army and IRGC are still functional. If they were not, regime change would have happened already.

The Strait is only open with Iranian permission.

Meantime, THAAD and Patriot defence systems all around the Gulf are severely depleted. Iran can return the cities there back to sandy barren waste, by going after the desalination plants.

Spin this all you want, it does not look like winning to me.

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Hmmm.... Iran no longer has a functioning navy or air force or army. The regime has been decapitated, apparently now being run by semi-paralyzed gay man in a hospital. Its ability to project terror has been eliminated. The Straits are open again.

But it is early hours. At the end of two weeks, we will know more. Frankly, any deal that leaves the death cult in charge in Iran will be a loss. There is also the chance that a new and secular Iran could be formed and take a place in the world of nations. But in the end, talking is better than bombing.

The Iranians hardly had a functioning air force and navy before the war, and I'd love to see some links to credible sources proving that Iran's army (incl. the IRGC) are no longer functioning, the regime has been decapitated and are apparently now being run by semi-paralyzed gay man in a hospital, AND its ability to project terror has been eliminated.

Because all that sounds an awful lot like wishful thinking to me.

The Straits are open again? That remains to be seen, but those who transit only do so with the permission of the Iranians and a $2 mill. fee, paid in a non-US currency.

What a great success this war has been!😆

19 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Irony is that the Straits aren't even that important to the US. They were trying to be nice and free them so that Europe and Asia could enjoy transit.

1. The straits were nice and free before this idiotic war started.

2. The SOH is very important to the US. If you wanna have a detailed breakdown of how and why I suggest you do your own research.

Summary from AI (Grok):

"The Strait of Hormuz remains critically important to the United States in several interconnected ways, even though the U.S. is now a net energy exporter and imports relatively little oil directly from the Gulf (only ~3% of U.S. petroleum consumption in recent years, down significantly due to domestic shale production).
In short, while the U.S. is far less dependent on direct imports than in past decades, the SOH's importance stems from its role as a global energy chokepoint whose disruption creates worldwide economic pain that inevitably reaches American consumers, businesses, and strategic position. Recent events (2026 conflict) have highlighted this, with the U.S. actively working (via diplomacy, insurance, potential escorts, and military pressure) to restore safe transit.

Disruptions are never cost-free for the U.S., even as a major producer."

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Amazing. In the morning, people are complaining that Trump is a vicious warmonger and criminal, destroyer of civilizations. Three hours later, peacenik and taco....

Youse guys need to make up your minds.

you needs to review what he did before he caved.

15 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

you needs to review what he did before he caved.

...so I guess you think he should have kept up the bombing then? Perhaps landed the MEF on Karg Island and removed Iran's ability to export oil? Please tell us the Alan Z plan for victory.

26 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

1. The straits were nice and free before this idiotic war started.

2. The SOH is very important to the US. If you wanna have a detailed breakdown of how and why I suggest you do your own research.

Summary from AI (Grok):

"The Strait of Hormuz remains critically important to the United States in several interconnected ways, even though the U.S. is now a net energy exporter and imports relatively little oil directly from the Gulf (only ~3% of U.S. petroleum consumption in recent years, down significantly due to domestic shale production).
In short, while the U.S. is far less dependent on direct imports than in past decades, the SOH's importance stems from its role as a global energy chokepoint whose disruption creates worldwide economic pain that inevitably reaches American consumers, businesses, and strategic position. Recent events (2026 conflict) have highlighted this, with the U.S. actively working (via diplomacy, insurance, potential escorts, and military pressure) to restore safe transit.

Disruptions are never cost-free for the U.S., even as a major producer."

In other words, the US doesn't need it nearly as much as the rest of the world. Thanks.

So now, what to do about Iran's threats? Just ignore them? Pay the extortion?

What a beatdown lol. All military objectives achieved Its the 8am Pentagon Briefing, You will, Im sure get your bubbles view later since Hegseth said God and thanked Israel

Wonder what the new Iranian regime will do this week lol.

The Iranians agreed we can come get the dust.

This should make the warmongers, Trump haters, Anti semites, socialists, Tehran Tommies and America Haters absolutely insane. This will be a great place to be to watch the screeching

9 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

In other words, the US doesn't need it nearly as much as the rest of the world. Thanks.

So now, what to do about Iran's threats? Just ignore them? Pay the extortion?

"In other words, the US doesn't need it nearly as much as the rest of the world. Thanks."

Not really into playing silly games. You claimed that the SOH isn't that important to the US. I proved you wrong.

"So now, what to do about Iran's threats? Just ignore them? Pay the extortion?"

For now, that seems to be the only alternative. If the almighty US military get their behind kicked by Iran and even the "impenetrable" Iron Dome in Israel is defeated, not much anyone else can do at the moment. Of course, since this is a mess the US and Israel created, they should be footing the bill. But the US is broke, so that's not gonna happen.

And to think we're all in this stinking pile of s**t just because 77 million Americans are complete and utter morons, is quite frankly infuriating.

18 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

...so I guess you think he should have kept up the bombing then? Perhaps landed the MEF on Karg Island and removed Iran's ability to export oil? Please tell us the Alan Z plan for victory.

Whose victory? Trump's or the Iranians? It looks like the latter are on the way to accomplishing theirs.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Iran’s army, are the people who wiped out that U.S. special forces debacle that we are told was a ‘pilot rescue’

The same Iranian army that have kept the straits of Hormuz closed while simultaneously demonstrating Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ to be as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

Special forces debacle? I can’t let that go - it was an audacious, brilliant mission by the some of the most capable and brave people in the world. Just because we’d probably have to go as far back as the emperors of ancient Rome to find a leader as incompetent and insane as Trump doesn’t mean that America’s military isn’t amazing.

Israel’s Iron Dome is continuing to do what it’s been doing for many years, intercepting a staggeringly high percentage of rockets fired at Israel by terrorists, while of course not being perfect.

24 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What a beatdown lol. All military objectives achieved Its the 8am Pentagon Briefing, You will, Im sure get your bubbles view later since Hegseth said God and thanked Israel

Wonder what the new Iranian regime will do this week lol.

The Iranians agreed we can come get the dust.

This should make the warmongers, Trump haters, Anti semites, socialists, Tehran Tommies and America Haters absolutely insane. This will be a great place to be to watch the screeching

24 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

The Iranians agreed we can come get the dust.

You got any proof of that? And, no, for obvious reasons,Trump's claims don't count.

20 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What a beatdown lol. All military objectives achieved Its the 8am Pentagon Briefing, You will, Im sure get your bubbles view later since Hegseth said God and thanked Israel

Wonder what the new Iranian regime will do this week lol.

The Iranians agreed we can come get the dust.

This should make the warmongers, Trump haters, Anti semites, socialists, Tehran Tommies and America Haters absolutely insane. This will be a great place to be to watch the screeching

"The Iranians agreed we can come get the dust."

Let me correct that for you:

The Iranians agreed we can come and get turned to dust.

What a sad end to the American empire. It burned brightly for a short while, but compared to other empires through history it was just a flash in the pan.

Trump also threatened to impose an additional 50% tariff on any country selling Iran weapons. I wonder what would happen if China decided to?

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You got any proof of that? And, no, for obvious reasons,Trump's claims don't count.

Watch the news and argue with yourself. Tell us how Iran is winning 5555

Start thinking about a new identity, now that you are coming here and being shown to be the fool and loser.

My only reponse to any of your whingers is "The US and Israel Won. You lost"

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

What a sad end to the American empire. It burned brightly for a short while, but compared to other empires through history it was just a flash in the pan

The US and Israel Won. You lost.

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

You got any proof of that? And, no, for obvious reasons,Trump's claims don't count.

I think he watched a Pentagon briefing, where Pete Hegseth said something about gawd, but let's just say that @Yagoda wasn't very lucid in his description of the briefing.

Interestingly, in the same briefing my impeccable sources told me Pete described the "Strait of Hormuz" as the "Strait of Vermouth".......

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Watch the news and argue with yourself. Tell us how Iran is winning 5555

Start thinking about a new identity, now that you are coming here and being shown to be the fool and loser.

My only reponse to any of your whingers is "The US and Israel Won. You lost"

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

The US and Israel Won. You lost.

Warning, meltdown in progress! I think we all know where this is heading.🤣

1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

I think he watched a Pentagon briefing, where Pete Hegseth said something about gawd, but let's just say that @Yagoda wasn't very lucid in his description of the briefing.

Interestingly, in the same briefing Pete described the "Strait of Hormuz" as the "Strait of Vermouth".......

The US and Israel Won. You lost.

How utterly humiliating for you

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Warning, meltdown in progress! I think we all know where this is heading.🤣

The hysteria grows, Trump won 55555555555.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

The hysteria grows, Trump won 55555555555.

Got it, the delusional guy on this forum still doesn't get it that his side are the losers 5555555555555555555555555555

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Watch the news and argue with yourself. Tell us how Iran is winning 5555

Start thinking about a new identity, now that you are coming here and being shown to be the fool and loser.

My only reponse to any of your whingers is "The US and Israel Won. You lost"

Whenever you engage in name calling, it's a tell that you've got nothing rational to counter with.

Has Iran unconditionally surrendered?

Has the regime has changed?

Has the Uranium has been removed?

I will grant you that the Strait of Hormuz is now open. But not like it was before the war. Iran is now charging ships for passage. But what's more important, it has learned a crucial lesson. Next time Israel or the US attacks, all it has to do is shut down the Strait. And wreak some destruction on its neighbors.

The fact is, this war was politically killing Trump and the Repubicans at home. He punked out. And pushed Iran into launching a new and very formidable weapon.

Just now, CallumWK said:

Got it, the delusional guy on this forum still doesn't get it that his side are the losers 5555555555555555555555555555

Please don't rub it in, he's going through a rough patch.

Apparently Trump is already rubbing his hands in anticipation of all the money to be made rebuilding the Middle East.

Let’s hope the GCC award the contracts elsewhere for all the damage he caused.

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Whenever you engage in name calling, it's a tell that you've got nothing rational to counter with.

Has Iran unconditionally surrendered?

Has the regime has changed?

Has the Uranium has been removed?

I will grant you that the Strait of Hormuz is now open. But not like it was before the war. Iran is now charging ships for passage. But what's more important, it has learned a crucial lesson. Next time Israel or the US attacks, all it has to do is shut down the Strait. And wreak some destruction on its neighbors.

The fact is, this war was politically killing Trump and the Repubicans at home. He punked out. And pushed Iran into launching a new and very formidable weapon.

You lost hahahahahahahahahaha

Keep spinning, keep the ifcomes, better start reading LOL