April 28Apr 28 What do you reckon as a non perfect, economical option ?Or give me some better SUV options at sub Bt2m but related to this Bt1.269m price tag.https://www.toyota.co.th/en/model/landcruiser_fj Edited April 28Apr 28 by SGD
April 29Apr 29 Jaecoo 6.Unless you're regularly doing long distances, why on earth would you buy an internal combustion engine car in 2026?
April 29Apr 29 Got to agree with JB, to many BEV options to be spending ฿1.26M on ICEV. Not a fan of myself, but if an impatient, long distance driver, then maybe a PHEV.Here are the key findings regarding PHEV pricing:[GWM Haval H6 PHEV]: As of April 2026, the Haval H6 PHEV is listed with prices starting from approximately ฿1,129,000 for the Pro variant and ฿1,229,000 for the Ultra variant.[MG HS PHEV]: The New MG HS PHEV is available in Thailand, with pricing for the PHEV D variant around ฿1,299,000 and the PHEV X variant at ฿1,379,000.
April 29Apr 29 Popular Post I think it will be robust and will retain value well (as it's a Toyota), but it's so obviously based on a Hilux Champ I wish they'd put more effort into the styling of the front end.Also feel it should be a diesel. The Tank 300 is probably a better option.About the EV comments - agree if you don't need to go off road or need a long range, but a 4X4 diesel SUV is currently still the best option for some people, me included.
April 29Apr 29 I've seen a few in the flesh and I think they look nice.Go sit in one, if you like it, drive it, if you still like it, buy one. Four-wheel drive, 6-speed automatic, 18" alloys, 2,000kg tow capacity, solid platform, solid engine. should provide years of great service.What's not to like?? Particularly if you plan to go offroad and whatnot.
April 29Apr 29 That seems like a lot of money for an SUV that looks like it's based on a 600K baht (+/-) Hilux Champ.But, what do I know?Edit: If I had 1.2 million burning a hole in my pocket that I just had to spend, I'd rather get 2 Hilux Champs. Edited April 29Apr 29 by impulse
April 29Apr 29 OK, didn't have a clue what it was, T. Land Cruiser, but earlier comments, so took a peek, yikes. HELL NO ... ฿1.269M and quite the under performer, as all Toyotas seem to be.Maximum power (kilowatts (horsepower) / revolutions per minute)122 (166) @ 5,200Maximum torque EEC net Newton-meters/revolutions per minute.245 @ 4,000You really need to take a peek at the Haval H6 or MG HS & test driveHaval H6 PHEV1.5-liter Turbo (GW4B15) producing 150-154 PS and 230 Nm of torque.Electric Motor: 177 PS (130 kW) and 300 Nm of torqueCombined Maximum Power: 326 PS (322 bhp or 240kW)Combined Maximum Torque: 530 NmMG HS PHEV1.5L Turbo Petrol Engine: Produces 162 PS (119 kW) and 250 Nm of torque.Electric Motor: Provides an additional 122 PS (90 kW) and 230 Nm of torque.Combined Output: 284 PS and 480 Nm Edited April 29Apr 29 by KhunLA
April 29Apr 29 Popular Post 11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:OK, didn't have a clue what it was, T. Land Cruiser, but earlier comments, so took a peek, yikes. HELL NO ... ฿1.269M and quite the under performer, as all Toyotas seem to be.Maximum power (kilowatts (horsepower) / revolutions per minute)122 (166) @ 5,200Maximum torque EEC net Newton-meters/revolutions per minute.245 @ 4,000You really need to take a peek at the Haval H6 or MG HS & test driveHaval H6 PHEV1.5-liter Turbo (GW4B15) producing 150-154 PS and 230 Nm of torque.Electric Motor: 177 PS (130 kW) and 300 Nm of torqueCombined Maximum Power: 326 PS (322 bhp or 240kW)Combined Maximum Torque: 530 NmMG HS PHEV1.5L Turbo Petrol Engine: Produces 162 PS (119 kW) and 250 Nm of torque.Electric Motor: Provides an additional 122 PS (90 kW) and 230 Nm of torque.Combined Output: 284 PS and 480 NmMaybe he is heterosexual...
April 29Apr 29 4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:Maybe he is heterosexual...If an outdoorsy look is all you want ... the Toyota works, though next to others real 4X4s, good for a chuckle.Could save ฿400k ....Or looks & performance ..."maximum power output of 279 horsepower and a maximum torque of 385 Newton meters. Features 4WD , acceleration from 0-100 km/h in 6.5 seconds"Toyota Land Cruiser 0-100 km/h in 12 (?) seconds (unknown as scared to publish) Edited April 29Apr 29 by KhunLA
April 29Apr 29 8 hours ago, FlorC said:What an ugly car.Got to agree - it looks like the designers came up with a decent car then accountants and lawyers put it on ozempic.The Original FJ Cruiser is still awesome - (and still worth more than this new miniature Tonka toy) - I've been dune bashing in the Original in a few different countries in the Middle East and its a good car - but I wouldn't say its for Thailand.As others have highlighted - unless regularly driving long distance and regularly topping up (fuel) away from home, then an E.V. with a reasonable range is surely a better option.At 1,269,000 baht - the new Landcruiser FJ looks like a Suzuki Jimny in a puffer Jacket.Someone mentioned the Jaecoo 6 which price wise has to be a serious contender (careful not to get the Jaecoo 5 or 7 - both of which look like a Range Rover with downs-syndrome).No car thread would be complete without Khun LA recommending an MG.Jetour - if available in Thailand yet, is worth a look: T2 and T4 (I'm not sure of their Thailand presence yet).Kia - Solid brand reputation - for the base model Kia EV5 at 1,250,000 Baht (same price as Toyota FJ).Ultimately - with a car like the Toyota FJ - photos may not do it justice and thats why the scaling may look off - it may need to be seen in the skin - sat in etc because the video doesn't help either - it really does look like one those kids who were taken out of normal school and put in 'special school' - y'know - thick rimmed bottle thick glasses, special waking boots etc - it looks weirdly distorted. Edited April 29Apr 29 by richard_smith237
April 29Apr 29 20 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:No car thread would be complete without Khun LA recommending an MG.As I stated, not a fan of PHEV and wouldn't buy either H6 or HS, but if range was an issue for choice, then the H6 would be the way to go, not the HS. Just the only 2 PHEV options I'm familiar with.OP gets power, range, fuel economy, and plenty of electrons for knocking around town in EV mode.If looking for practicality in a 4X4, then I'd only consider the Riddara R6 ... IF ... range isn't an issue. Edited April 29Apr 29 by KhunLA
April 29Apr 29 The EV and PHEV alternatives being suggested are interesting, if you want a road car that looks like it could go off road, but none would suit my needs. For work I need to make regular trips from Bangkok to Issan, then trundle around farms, often on rough tracks, and then during the rainy season there's the mud and flooded sections. I also need to carry equipment and people, so space taken up by batteries can be an issue.Wouldn't be confident fording in an EV either, and most have poor ground clearance and excessive weight. Range would also be an issue.But the new Toyota really needs a diesel option to be a serious off-road work tool.Now if it was a real Land Cruiser or FJ Cruiser for 1.2 million, I'd buy one tomorrow 😁
April 29Apr 29 Popular Post 1 hour ago, KhunLA said:As I stated, not a fan of PHEV and wouldn't buy either H6 or HS, but if range was an issue for choice, then the H6 would be the way to go, not the HS. Just the only 2 PHEV options I'm familiar with.OP gets power, range, fuel economy, and plenty of electrons for knocking around town in EV mode.If looking for practicality in a 4X4, then I'd only consider the Riddara R6 ... IF ... range isn't an issue.Eiw... two things going on here.... A) that Riddara R6 is the car equivalent of "a face only a mother could love".B) You didn't recommend the MG ZS EV - please see a Dr. immediately - something is up.Haval H6 PHEV - Good call - it has history in Thailand - no negative news. MG HS PHEV - close enough - no need for the Dr - you just had a minor relapse thats all.Of all the cars listed thus far - the Jaecoo 6 is the most decent (looking - eye of beholder and all that).Kia EV5 Solid brand - if you can handle the 'designed by a foreign exchange student' type of styling.Op really needs to tell us if hea) Wants a 'rugged looker' - (no Pattaya Soi 6 references pls).b) Needs 4x4 - (no Soi Buakhao references pls).c) Drives more than 300 kms a day on a regular basis - (no LK Metro references pls).d) Likely to charge away from home (how often - 5x per year etc) - (Cameroni's missus references pls).e) Has any objection to a pure EV - (No boystown references pls).
April 29Apr 29 2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:People should just buy cars they like and not ask other people,Why ? People may already own some of the cars being discussed, have first hand experience and be able to offer advice. And just imagine this... someone in the market for a car may actually enjoy a discussion about cars, what to chose, why, how they look etc.... incredible that on a forum designed for discussion !!!!
April 29Apr 29 1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:Why ?People may already own some of the cars being discussed, have first hand experience and be able to offer advice.And just imagine this... someone in the market for a car may actually enjoy a discussion about cars, what to chose, why, how they look etc.... incredible that on a forum designed for discussion !!!!I remember when we used to have car discussions on this very forum. My dad always said: "don't ask someone that has one, ask someone that had one."
April 29Apr 29 2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:Why ?People may already own some of the cars being discussed, have first hand experience and be able to offer advice.And just imagine this... someone in the market for a car may actually enjoy a discussion about cars, what to chose, why, how they look etc.... incredible that on a forum designed for discussion !!!!Not really a discussion in my opinion.Real car vs electric sewing machine.You can probably guess I do not paint my nails or wear lipstick!
April 29Apr 29 Popular Post 2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:Maybe he is heterosexual...In which case not one of your tribe?
April 29Apr 29 3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:I remember when we used to have car discussions on this very forum.My dad always said: "don't ask someone that has one, ask someone that had one."What was your fathers username on here ?
April 30Apr 30 People should just buy cars they like and not ask other people, But some people liked the looks of the Chevy Vega... They were smart enough to ask about it.
April 30Apr 30 1 hour ago, impulse said:But some people liked the looks of the Chevy Vega... They were smart enough to ask about it.And today, hey are selling for ten times what sold for new.
April 30Apr 30 4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:And today, hey are selling for ten times what sold for new.Wonder what an AMC Gremlin is going for these days.
April 30Apr 30 And today, hey are selling for ten times what sold for new.That wouldn't surprise me, given that it probably cost 20x the purchase price to keep them running this long.Cast iron head on an aluminum block... What could possibly go wrong? Edited April 30Apr 30 by impulse
April 30Apr 30 12 minutes ago, impulse said:That wouldn't surprise me, given that it probably cost 20x the purchase price to keep them running this long.Cast iron head on an aluminum block... What could possibly go wrong?Not the Cosworth, and it was cheap and easy to drop in a small-block when the four-banger took a dump.
April 30Apr 30 Not the Cosworth, and it was cheap and easy to drop in a small-block when the four-banger took a dump.Getting back to the OP, I'm not confident that Toyota has enough of the Hilux Champ based FJ's out there to really know whether it's a good car, or a future lemon. I'm not a big fan of new cars anyway, but especially when they're still in the teething phase. I generally love Toyotas, but they've recently been guilty of enshattification on a few configurations. Their bean counters trumped the engineers...
April 30Apr 30 1 hour ago, impulse said:Getting back to the OP, I'm not confident that Toyota has enough of the Hilux Champ based FJ's out there to really know whether it's a good car, or a future lemon. I'm not a big fan of new cars anyway, but especially when they're still in the teething phase.It's not a new platform. It's a new model on a proven platform. I like the looks of the Champ, but I did not like the way it sat. I like to but the second year of a new platform, the bugs have been worked out, but they haven't started the cost-cutting.1 hour ago, impulse said:I generally love Toyotas, but they've recently been guilty of enshattification on a few configurations. Their bean counters trumped the engineers...I'm an engineer, but I hate when people disparage accounting. If you can't sell it, you might as well stay home. My greatest ally at my last job was the CFO.
April 30Apr 30 I'm an engineer, but I hate when people disparage accounting. If you can't sell it, you might as well stay home.My greatest ally at my last job was the CFO.Tell that to all the 'Muricans wishing they hadn't bought a V6 Tundra. When even Scottie Killmer is dissing Toyota, you know something's gone sideways. Accountants have their place. But it shouldn't be driving design decisions. Ask Boeing about that. Edited April 30Apr 30 by impulse
April 30Apr 30 It's not a new platform. It's a new model on a proven platform. I like the looks of the Champ, but I did not like the way it sat.I like to but the second year of a new platform, the bugs have been worked out, but they haven't started the cost-cutting.How long has the Champ been out in LOS? Admittedly, I only spend about a week each month in Thailand post-Covid, but I can count on both hands the number of Champs I recall seeing. (I haven't seen one in China, but there's not much of a market for pickups here. I'm a big fan of their Bz3 and Bz5 E sedans)I like to see 100,000 mile vehicles before passing judgement. Lots of cars make it to 50K just fine, but fall apart soon after. Especially if they're thrashing a small engine with a turbo. But that means at least 5 and more like 10 years... Edited April 30Apr 30 by impulse
Create an account or sign in to comment