17 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

...if an illegal from Senegall with his 5 kids in tow walks in he gets the house first all new Furniture the lot oh and a new Mobile phone with free credit...

More rubbish.

Crack on.

Just now, NanLaew said:

More rubbish.

Crack on.

Well said. Social media and unfortunately also this Forum is full of lies which are now seen as Reform truths!

And he let jimmy saville off the hook ,he’s a man of inaction

On 5/8/2026 at 4:45 PM, beautifulthailand99 said:

Yeah if you say so ! Why won't he talk about it , show us the recipts and open the books and stop having Refrom as a Limited Company. He's a shameless grifter - always has been and the idiots that might propel him into power deserve everything that might come to him. I can't fix stupid but will ceratinly hedge against it shoulkd he come close to winning - buy shorting the UK which is effectivley the pound. Just remember expats what happedn the day after you are still paying for it.

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

More rubbish.

Crack on.

So NanLaew are you saying there not given priority above the locals ?

20 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

The fact that they are illegal, makes accurate figures impossible. However, independent estimates vary between 700,000 and 1.2 million; or to put it another way, at least 700,000 too many.

Their ethnicity is completely irrelevant, and I have no idea why you would ask.

And with most illegal immigrants arriving without passports, or any identification, it is impossible to know who, if any amongst them, has a right to claim asylum.

I asked about ethnicity as the Reform voters I've heard talking about illegals seem to rhink they are sll non white and mainly Muslim.

In reality, a very large %%% are white Europeans who didn't apply for settlement following Brexit.

Well facts are facts Reform gained 1500 seats. Labour safe seats like Newcastle, Sunderland removed and replaced by Reform. Labour totaly kicked out of Wales and Scotland.Many in Starmers team now want him replaced and are plotting against him. Reform Winning.

6 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

I have no Idea how many illegals there are in the UK. and neither has anybody else, the simple answer is " too many" thats all we need to know. Furthermore , their nationality or "ethnicity" as you prefer to call it , is totally irrelevant to me as I am not a racist, So there.

The fact of the matter is that there are very very few genuine asylum seekers, if any , either in or intending to travel to the UK.

Those genuinely seeking asylum would obviously apply for it ( along with their families) in the nearest safe country. They would not be risking their lives travelling from france or belgium to the Uk and they would not be destroying their documents on arrival , For gods sake Its not rocket science

Keep the rapists and groomers out of the UK there are too many there already ( both homegrown and foreign)

You've answered my question regarding ethnicity without realising.

Most illegals in UK did not arrive by boat and never have claimed asylum.

Most are overstayed and many are White Europeans who did not bother to claim settlement after Brexit.

21 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

There are over 200,000 not including lorry jumpers and visa runners.

Incorrect.

21 hours ago, blaze master said:

Anywhere between 700k and 1.2mn. Does the ethnicity matter ?

I asked about ethnicity as it appears many believe all illegals are Muslim and/or African or Middle Eastern. Any propaganda you see about illegals depicts this.

In reality, many are Europeans here illegally as they did not apply for settlement following Brexit.

6 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

For me, the success of the Greens, Plaid Cymru and the SNP (all to the left of Labour) hold out some hope. A left-leaning coalition, possibly including some sensible Tories if any are left, maybe our best hope of stopping the move to the extreme.

Stop the illegal immigrants first, then work on the economy.

Neither is that extreme. The Greens are the last party you want to have any say in government. They are a party of destruction.

28 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

In reality, a very large %%% are white Europeans who didn't apply for settlement following Brexit

Perhaps you would be kind enough to tell me exactly, or even roughly, what the very large %%% (sic) of white Europeans is, that are making up illegal immigration to the UK, because this is news to me, as I’m sure it is to others.

50% 60% .... more ?

30 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Incorrect.

You made this reply to a poster claiming that there are over 200,000 Illegal immigrants in the UK. Estimates range from 700,000 to 1.2 million; both those numbers are over 200,000 so perhaps you would like to apologise to him.

52 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

So NanLaew are you saying there not given priority above the locals ?

I am saying exactly that, yes.

However, I am sure you have factual and incontrovertible evidence to support your claim and thus prove me wrong.

5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

You made this reply to a poster claiming that there are over 200,000 Illegal immigrants in the UK. Estimates range from 700,000 to 1.2 million; both those numbers are over 200,000 so perhaps you would like to apologise to him.

Because I know he can't differentiate between Asylum Seekers (boat arrivals) and illegal immigrants, those that arrived by legal routes but are now illegal.

He has used the 200 000 figure before, when referring to boat arrivals.

Edited May 10May 10 by youreavinalaff

18 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Perhaps you would be kind enough to tell me exactly, or even roughly, what the very large %%% (sic) of white Europeans is, that are making up illegal immigration to the UK, because this is news to me, as I’m sure it is to others.

50% 60% .... more ?

White European illegals in the UK is news to you? Blimey.

Estimates from UK immigration are 400000+.

Edited May 10May 10 by youreavinalaff

15 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Because I know he can't differentiate between Asylum Seekers (boat arrivals) and illegal immigrants

Are you just saying bizarre and stupid things to wind people up; anyone arriving by boat on the coast of the UK is an illegal immigrant; how can you be commenting on the subject and not know that.

15 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

White European illegals in the UK is news to you? Blimey.

Not news to me at all, but you said that white Europeans make up a very large percentage of illegal immigration to the UK. I think that is completely untrue, so I am asking you to back that up by telling me roughly what that percentage is.

And you need to provide verification of any figure you give, and the source of verification.

3 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Are you just saying bizarre and stupid things to wind people up; anyone arriving by boat on the coast of the UK is an illegal immigrant; how can you be commenting on the subject and not know that.

Anyone seeking asylum into a country must report first to a legal border crossing. Anything else is illegal.

21 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

I am saying exactly that, yes.

However, I am sure you have factual and incontrovertible evidence to support your claim and thus prove me wrong.

No point you won't exept it or say its a u-tube video. I will give you this if you like to comment on.

Edited May 10May 10 by BarraMarra

Or this one.

15 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Not news to me at all, but you said that white Europeans make up a very large percentage of illegal immigration to the UK. I think that is completely untrue, so I am asking you to back that up by telling me roughly what that percentage is.

And you need to provide verification of any figure you give, and the source of verification.

As I said in my comment, UK immigration estimates are 400000+.

21 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Are you just saying bizarre and stupid things to wind people up; anyone arriving by boat on the coast of the UK is an illegal immigrant; how can you be commenting on the subject and not know that.

There are no legal routes into UK to seek Asylum. Those arriving by illegal routes that immediately claim Asylum, are categorized as Asylum Seekers under international law.

I'd have thought, as someone commenting on this subject, you would have known that.

Edited May 10May 10 by youreavinalaff

Unfortunately and I really regret to say this but unless Labour gets the boats stopped they are handing the next general election to Reform which personally I feel would be a disaster.

What the government has to understand is people see the boats arriving packed with mostly young men who are either picked up at sea and brought to England or collected from the beaches when they arrive.

They are then taken to a processing centre where they are processed fingerprints etc taken then they are taken to whatever accommodation is available and given money (admittedly not a lot) after that they are free to walk the streets and go anywhere they want and quite rightly in my opinion people object to them.

The UK does abide by international law and does grant asylum and should continue to do so but they could still do that by taking a different approach.

If instead of the current system where they are given accomodation and are free to go where they want they were taken to a detention centre possibly an old military base surrounded by perimeter fencing topped with razor wire and patrolled by either the army or private security with dogs. (cant use the prisons they are all full)

No money just basic food dormitory style accommodation and not allowed out to run free until either their fast tracked asylum claim was granted or they were deported. I think the boats would stop.

There is no way anyone arriving by an illegal route should by free to go anywhere they want they should be treated as criminals the rules for granting asylum should also be made more stringent so only the most desperate and deserving are granted.

Stop the boats and you stop Reform.

Edited May 10May 10 by Bannoi

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

No point you won't exept it or say its a u-tube video. I will give you this if you like to comment on.

Nothing wrong with a YouTube video, but I said factual and incontrovertible. You offered GBNews.

Do you read the Daily Mail too?

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

Or this one.

Nope.

You wont accept MSM so im not wasting time on you anymore.

1 hour ago, Bannoi said:

Unfortunately and I really regret to say this but unless Labour gets the boats stopped they are handing the next general election to Reform which personally I feel would be a disaster.

What the government has to understand is people see the boats arriving packed with mostly young men who are either picked up at sea and brought to England or collected from the beaches when they arrive.

They are then taken to a processing centre where they are processed fingerprints etc taken then they are taken to whatever accommodation is available and given money (admittedly not a lot) after that they are free to walk the streets and go anywhere they want and quite rightly in my opinion people object to them.

The UK does abide by international law and does grant asylum and should continue to do so but they could still do that by taking a different approach.

If instead of the current system where they are given accomodation and are free to go where they want they were taken to a detention centre possibly an old military base surrounded by perimeter fencing topped with razor wire and patrolled by either the army or private security with dogs. (cant use the prisons they are all full)

No money just basic food dormitory style accommodation and not allowed out to run free until either their fast tracked asylum claim was granted or they were deported. I think the boats would stop.

There is no way anyone arriving by an illegal route should by free to go anywhere they want they should be treated as criminals the rules for granting asylum should also be made more stringent so only the most desperate and deserving are granted.

Stop the boats and you stop Reform.

Most of them don't even speak English and the woke ECHR are raking in big money defending there human rights to remain here even if they commit crimes there detained then allowed to remain very few are deported. Albanian illegals are not leaving war torn countyry's Vietnamese are not in country with an ongoing war if they seek a safe country as soon as they arrive in Europe they should ask for asylum there but because there told come to England you will be given a house money and free medical care they will continue risking there life in a rubber boat.

15 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Most of them don't even speak English and the woke ECHR are raking in big money defending there human rights to remain here even if they commit crimes there detained then allowed to remain very few are deported. Albanian illegals are not leaving war torn countyry's Vietnamese are not in country with an ongoing war if they seek a safe country as soon as they arrive in Europe they should ask for asylum there but because there told come to England you will be given a house money and free medical care they will continue risking there life in a rubber boat.

Quite agree something has to happen to stop it desperate times call for desperate measures. Even if that means Reform as much as I don't want that or Farage if thats what it is going to take then so be it.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

Most of them don't even speak English and the woke ECHR are raking in big money defending there human rights to remain here even if they commit crimes there detained then allowed to remain very few are deported. Albanian illegals are not leaving war torn countyry's Vietnamese are not in country with an ongoing war if they seek a safe country as soon as they arrive in Europe they should ask for asylum there but because there told come to England you will be given a house money and free medical care they will continue risking there life in a rubber boat.

You remain confused. That, in turn, is causing inaccuracies in your comments.

You are correct in your point that Albanians and Vietnamese are not fleeing war torn countries. However, the rest of your comment is incorrect. As they are not fleeing war torn countries they cannot claim asylum and they generally arrive by legal routes but overstay or are victims of trafficking with a promise of work illegal work in UK. They don't apply for asylum. They are, therefore, illegal immigrants who tend to live under the radar. They do not get housing or benefits. The numbers of illegal arrivals from Vietnam has fallen considerably in the last two years. The number of Albanians arriving was 12000+ in 2022. In 2025 the figure was 600.

Cases where ECHR intervene or challenge UK immigration rules, human rights or removal are rare at around 5% of cases.

Since 2024, over 40000 illegal immigrants have been deported from UK.

Edited May 10May 10 by youreavinalaff

I don't care if its 100 Albanians or 1 they crossed the channel and entered illegally and expect to given all the free benefits. One Albanian claimed his son would be struggle if his father who was prosecuted for supplying drugs won his case to remain, another Albanian claimed his son would be punished because he would miss his chicken nuggets he again won his claim to remain. Others claimed if they were deported they would face the death penalty for sex crimes comitted in the UK all under Starmers watch. The people have had enough of Starmer and want change and the local elections show what we want.

Edited May 10May 10 by BarraMarra