46 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

What you got to understand is Joe Bloggs sits back and waits for a thread to get going then joins in tearing into anyone who defends anyone. If he not dissing tommy Robinson he has a go at Reform members or Nigel Farage.

I know you are anti-Trump, so I don't understand why you defend his Brit counterparts. They are in the exact same league as Trump

What a slap in the face for Starmer' the whole event streamed live on X' including a speech from Dominik the Polish MEP the idiot banned.

Just hard truths peace songs, pastors, vicars, and a rousing speech from the pink ladies' well done Tommy' and stick this rancid government where the sun don't shine🤔

26 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

I know you are anti-Trump, so I don't understand why you defend his Brit counterparts. They are in the exact same league as Trump

What ever that means. Elon likes Tommy and he has a lot of time for Charlir Kirk he praised him enough yesterday at his rally. Whats wrong with mothers marching to protest about the invaders coming to the UK raping there daughters and kids.

This is how Starmer deals with people who disagree with him.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Just pointing out that no money was stolen and there was no attempt to steal any money and that it wasn't for him .

He just helped a friend obtain a mortgage because banks dont lend to self employed people

Yes, mortgage fraud. Which is why he was convicted. I think we get that.

3 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Yes, mortgage fraud. Which is why he was convicted. I think we get that.

Mortgage fraud does sound better if you are trying to vilify the man

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

What you got to understand is Joe Bloggs sits back and waits for a thread to get going then joins in tearing into anyone who defends anyone. If he not dissing tommy Robinson he has a go at Reform members or Nigel Farage. He likes to think he knows everything and will patronise members who agree with a thread. He is not alone there are some just like joe. In his defense and its always the same he likes to belittle us by saying he looks at both sides then post factual to his agenda. He has a hatred for anyone going against what he believes is true even when immigration threads begin, he calls us racists and insults us. Same on grooming gangs he will not admit the Perps are Pakistani men he will try and shoot you down thats his MO. Do as i do take him with a pinch of salt its not worth getting into an argument with him.

I sit back and wait for threads to get going? What am I supposed to reply to people before they've posted?

When people post factual inaccuracies that's when I like to join in if that's ok. I like to throw some evidence in and links, you know, like we're supposed to. Is that OK? I can't let lies get perpetuated.

If someone says Yaxley-Lennon is the greatest UK journalist of all time I am perfectly entitled to point out that is nonsense. It is completely preposterous. It's an insult to the greats like Paul Foot, William Stead(!) and hundreds of others. It's even an insult to Sun journalists.

If someone says he personally exposed grooming gangs I am perfectly entitled to point out that he didn't - and provide evidence, as I did. You chose not to read it. I am also perfectly entitled to point out that even grooming gang victims said he is taking credit for other people's work and jumping on a bandwagon and it is insulting.

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Same on grooming gangs he will not admit the Perps are Pakistani men he will try and shoot you down thats his MO. Do as i do take him with a pinch of salt its not worth getting into an argument with him.

Where did I ever say those particular gangs were not predominantly Pakistani? I even posted a talk from the guy who exposed them (guess what, not "Tommy") and he clearly identifies their ethnicity.

Not worth getting in to an argument with me, I'll take that as a compliment, thanks. You never do - you post claims, I counter them, then you saying I am a disrupter and flounce off. As you're no doubt about to do again.

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Mortgage fraud does sound better if you are trying to vilify the man

Jeez, how difficult is this. That is what he was accused of, charged with, pleaded guilty to, and was sentenced for. Nothing you say can change that. Not "it wasn't that bad", "the government are silencing him". He pleaded guilty to mortgage fraud because he committed mortgage fraud according to the laws of the land.

He vilifies himself.

With all those thousands in London, it's interesting to note that the average IQ in London went down whilst the average IQ of Manchester, Sunderland and Lincolnshire went up

6 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Jeez, how difficult is this. That is what he was accused of, charged with, pleaded guilty to, and was sentenced for. Nothing you say can change that. Not "it wasn't that bad", "the government are silencing him". He pleaded guilty to mortgage fraud because he committed mortgage fraud according to the laws of the land.

He vilifies himself.

Yes, I know .

Mortgage fraud as in supplying fake wage slips to a self employed friend who didn't have any wage slips

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Mortgage fraud does sound better if you are trying to vilify the man

It’s also technically correct to the crime for which Yaxley-Lennon was convicted.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

I sit back and wait for threads to get going? What am I supposed to reply to people before they've posted?

When people post factual inaccuracies that's when I like to join in if that's ok. I like to throw some evidence in and links, you know, like we're supposed to. Is that OK? I can't let lies get perpetuated.

If someone says Yaxley-Lennon is the greatest UK journalist of all time I am perfectly entitled to point out that is nonsense. It is completely preposterous. It's an insult to the greats like Paul Foot, William Stead(!) and hundreds of others. It's even an insult to Sun journalists.

If someone says he personally exposed grooming gangs I am perfectly entitled to point out that he didn't - and provide evidence, as I did. You chose not to read it. I am also perfectly entitled to point out that even grooming gang victims said he is taking credit for other people's work and jumping on a bandwagon and it is insulting.

Where did I ever say those particular gangs were not predominantly Pakistani? I even posted a talk from the guy who exposed them (guess what, not "Tommy") and he clearly identifies their ethnicity.

Not worth getting in to an argument with me, I'll take that as a compliment, thanks. You never do - you post claims, I counter them, then you saying I am a disrupter and flounce off. As you're no doubt about to do again.

I just don't like you Joe, everyone has an opinion my opinion is you bring the Forum into disrepute castigating anyone who supports things you dont like. I never Flounce away either but you like to spread rumours that i do. I'm no coward hiding behind a keyboard red thumbing people if i red thumb someone i tell them although im saying you do we know who they are in my opinion there cowards. Elon Musk is a fan of Tommy so he cant be as bad as you slag him off. Tommy Robinson held a meeting 15 yrs ago to the Oxford Union he told us if Islam is not stopped in the future we will have problems with Islam fundmentalists trying to take over there culture above the UK culture. It has proved he was correct. He also informs us jihadis are living in your neighborhood, and some Mosques are fronts to Radicalize kids all proven, but no doubt you will den'y this is happening.

Edited May 17May 17 by BarraMarra

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yes, I know .

Mortgage fraud as in supplying fake wage slips to a self employed friend who didn't have any wage slips

You are impossible, just as you are in the Israel threads, refusing to admit anything, always trying to fudge.

Mortgage fraud, as in mortgage fraud, as defined by the laws of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, as in the mortgage fraud he committed, pleaded guilty to, and was sentenced for. More specifically, conspiracy to commit fraud by false representation under section two of the Fraud Act (2006).

Do you want to go round the houses again?

16 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I just don't like you Joe, everyone has an opinion my opinion is you bring the Forum into disrepute castigating anyone who supports things you dont like. I never Flounce away either but you like to spread rumours that i do. I'm no coward hiding behind a keyboard red thumbing people if i red thumb someone i tell them although im saying you do we know who they are in my opinion there cowards. Elon Musk is a fan of Tommy so he cant be as bad as you slag him off.

Ah, if Elon thinks it it must be true. Just like he called Vernon Unsworth - a genuine hero! - a pedo. Do you agree with that because if Elon Musk thinks it it must be ok? Elon Musk is a right wing racist, that is unquestionable. It is no great surprise he likes people of the same ilk.

I am disappointed you don't like me, I thought maybe we could be friends one day.

And sorry for the flounce comment, but you really do flounce. If someone debates you or counters you you call them a disrupter or say no-one likes them and then you don't engage. It's a discussion forum, not the "everyone can only listen to Bazzer" forum.

On another note it is funny how easily triggered these snowflakes are.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JUeC_v9Pvcg

8 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You are impossible, just as you are in the Israel threads, refusing to admit anything, always trying to fudge.

I haven't denied its morgage fraud .

Yes, it was mortgage fraud .

I never said it wasn't

I was just stating the nature of the fraud .

I am just explaining what happened in detail .

The mortgage fraud was suppling his friend with fake wage slips because his friend was self employed and didn't have any wage slips

That was the mortgage fraud

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Yes, mortgage fraud. Which is why he was convicted. I think we get that.

Can we at least all agree that helping his mate apply for a mortgage is a less serious crime and moral booboo than raping & murdering Charlene Downs and grinding up her body into kebab meat in a restaurant?

Just trying to see if there is any sense of perspective at all from the left.

And Ill stress that telling victims of the Pakistani rape gangs to keep their mouths shut for the sake of diversity was not taking the issue seriously. But Tommy wouldnt let the leftist weasels cover it all up or explain it away as a few moaning racists. Cheers Tommy, you LEGEND!

Whatever way you look at it, the marches were both flops.

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I haven't denied its morgage fraud .

Yes, it was mortgage fraud .

I never said it wasn't

I was just stating the nature of the fraud .

I am just explaining what happened in detail .

The mortgage fraud was suppling his friend with fake wage slips because his friend was self employed and didn't have any wage slips

That was the mortgage fraud

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I haven't denied its morgage fraud .

Yes, it was mortgage fraud .

I never said it wasn't

I was just stating the nature of the fraud .

I am just explaining what happened in detail .

The mortgage fraud was suppling his friend with fake wage slips because his friend was self employed and didn't have any wage slips

That was the mortgage fraud

Thank you for explaining the mortgage fraud that was mortgage fraud under the definition of mortgage fraud. It has been enlightening.

5 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

You are a joke, you simply must be a troll.

He didn't expose rape gangs. He had nothing to do with it. Absolutely nothing. Even one of the abused girls who bravely spoke out against them initially said Yaxley-Lenon was jumping on a bandwagon, had nothing to do with it, and was using survivors' stories for personal gain, and falsely taking credit for others' work. Her name is Sammy Woodhouse, look her up and read her story - she's a truly brave warrior.

What about him failing to condemn pedos who were his mates? Multiple times. What about him even defending one (Richard Price) after he was convicted of possession of indecent images of children - aka child pornography? Ah, they are white pedos, they're fine.

And he's the "greatest journalist the UK ever produced". Are you for real? That's an insult to some of the incredible and brave investigative journalists that the UK has produced. In face it's an insult to the gutter press journalists. He isn't a journalist. He's a coke addled fraudster.

And he didn't go to prison for "investigative journalism". He went to prison for 1) Assault, for attacking a police officer who intervened when he was trying to beat his girlfriend. 2) Assault (again) for headbutting a man. 3) False Documentation for trying to enter the US an a false passport. 4) mortgage fraud. 5) Contempt of court. 6) Contempt of court (again). You can look them all up for details of what your journalistic hero did.

I don't know how many times I have to explain all of this to dummies who believe he is anything other than a fraudulent racist grifter - he has been exposed numerous times.

Oh, and he had to flee the country to escape ISIS as they had a death threat out on him. He also says ISIS come over on small boats. Mighty lucky that none of these immigrant ISIS sleeper cells managed to find out where he was yesterday. It wasn't publicised in any way - that's probably why.

Was that the same Sammy Woodhouse that was on the stage with Tommy yesterday?

I’m not expecting a reply to this.

2 minutes ago, Keeenok Powell said:

Was that the same Sammy Woodhouse that was on the stage with Tommy yesterday?

I’m not expecting a reply to this.

Somehow I doubt he will be bringing up Ms Woodhouses name again🤣

16 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can we at least all agree that helping his mate apply for a mortgage is a less serious crime and moral booboo than raping & murdering Charlene Downs and grinding up her body into kebab meat in a restaurant?

Just trying to see if there is any sense of perspective at all from the left.

Er, yes, we agree it was less than murdering and grinding up a body. Is that a serious question?? What the hell.

16 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

And Ill stress that telling victims of the Pakistani rape gangs to keep their mouths shut for the sake of diversity was not taking the issue seriously. But Tommy wouldnt let the leftist weasels cover it all up or explain it away as a few moaning racists. Cheers Tommy, you LEGEND!

Ok, you are properly losing it. This is probably the third or fourth time I have explained this to you. Each time you revert back to your ignorance. Not writing it again, here's a copy and paste, please try reading it this time. You are deliberately spreading lies.

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Ah, this hasn't been trotted out for a while. By posting it you are either deliberately trying to skew things or you are actually dense and genuinely believe it.

https://fullfact.org/online/naz-shah-diversity-quote-tweet/

It was a parody, it was not supposed to be taken literally, it was being ironic. But you knew that. It was up for eight minutes before she realised that knuckle draggers were twisting her meaning and she took it down. One group even quoted it and called her "a grooming gang apologist" which is amazing given her history of working against grooming gangs, unlike Yaxley-Lennon who only jumped on other people's bandwagons.

From the link above:

In 2020, Ms Shah successfully sued the campaigning group Leave.EU after it called her a “grooming gang apologist” in a 2019 Facebook post. The group apologised and accepted Ms Shah was a "vociferous campaigner for victims of grooming gangs", said their post was “ill-judged and untrue” and paid her damages for libel. 

25 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can we at least all agree that helping his mate apply for a mortgage is a less serious crime and moral booboo than raping & murdering Charlene Downs and grinding up her body into kebab meat in a restaurant?

There is no connection between the two crimes!

31 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I haven't denied its morgage fraud .

So you admit it was a crime which the UK takes seriously even if you don't!!

The simple truth is that people are fed up with the status quo... this nonsense that has been forced on everyone for the last few decades is wearing thin... people want change, not abstract ideology and finger-wagging virtue-signaling nonsense in their lives, like solutions to the day-to-day issues and answers. The last 3 decades has seen center-left governments of all hues completely deliver the same fail slop to all... and folks are getting annoyed with it. And people wonder why Reform UK are doing so well... Duh!

17 minutes ago, Keeenok Powell said:

Was that the same Sammy Woodhouse that was on the stage with Tommy yesterday?

I’m not expecting a reply to this.

Well you've got one. You didn't watch her speech did you? Admit it.

She has always stood by what she said about him, has never retracted it, but was offered a platform to speak about her mission and she took it.

She did not thank Yaxley on stage, did not acknowledge him, instead spoke of her passion to protect victims of sexual violence. The bit where she said "not only the gangs, but the people abused and raped by the priests, by the church, in care homes, by families", well you could have heard a pin drop - I don't think that was part of the program. Especially all the flag shaggers with crosses on their ridiculous little flag poles. Faux religious nonsense.

So yes. Did you watch it?

13 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

shaggersWell you've got one. You didn't watch her speech did you? Admit it.

She has always stood by what she said about him, has never retracted it, but was offered a platform to speak about her mission and she took it.

She did not thank Yaxley on stage, did not acknowledge him, instead spoke of her passion to protect victims of sexual violence. The bit where she said "not only the gangs, but the people abused and raped by the priests, by the church, in care homes, by families", well you could have heard a pin drop - I don't think that was part of the program. Especially all the flag shaggers with crosses on their ridiculous little flag poles. Faux religious nonsense.

So yes. Did you watch it?

Flag shaggers?You are a disgrace to the UK.

It’s useful idiots like you who along with the islamists that will be the death of Britain if we don’t stand against it.

Tommy is not perfect (who is?) but he cares and fights for his country unlike blokes like you and yes I was glued to the tele yesterday and YouTube today in support of our once beautiful country.

1 minute ago, Keeenok Powell said:

Flag shaggers?You are a disgrace to the UK.

It’s useful idiots like you who along with the islamists that will be the death of Britain if we don’t stand against it.

Tommy is not perfect (who is?) but he cares and fights for his country unlike blokes like you and yes I was glued to the tele yesterday and YouTube today in support of our once beautiful country.

Yes, flag shaggers. Easily triggered fake patriots who use the flag as a weapon. It's pathetic really, grown men wrapping themselves up, swilling Stella, pissing in the street.

I love my country, I don't like what these people think it stands for.

2 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

So you admit it was a crime which the UK takes seriously even if you don't!!

They dont take it seriously at all. Didnt Ms Rayner just commit mortgage fraud and got off scott free with nary a slap on the wrist? And her mortgage fraud was far worse that Tommys.

Never underestimate the lefts capacity to push dishonest arguments😅

7 hours ago, candide said:

Tommy (whatever his real identity may be), an illegal immigrant to the US, against illegal immigration! It makes sense! 😆

https://www.channel4.com/news/edl-leader-stephen-lennon-jailed-for-10-months

Quote from the judge:

“You knew that because you tried before and you had not got in, and you knew the reason for that – because, rightly or wrongly, the US authorities do not welcome people in their country who have convictions of the kind that you have.

“With that full knowledge, you equipped yourself with a passport. I am told that it was given you by way of a loan from your friend Andrew McMaster, to which you bore, I am told, some resemblance.

“And by use of that passport you did what you could to get into the United States. But you did not get in because they took your fingerprints and they worked out that you were not who you claimed to be.

“I am told that, by whatever means, you slipped away from the US authorities, got into the country and then very rapidly – and understandably so – got out of it.”

FINALLY thanks to Sir Tommy the left now understand the concept of illegal immigration. Is there no end to Tommys gift giving? The man needs a medal.

y'all Brits need to buck up if you don't want to end really looking and smelling like Pakistani