1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

No.

You are conflating two different things. The 'Pakistani grooming gang' was an issue some 15-20 years ago. The vast majority of men have been caught and locked up. It was a rotten system that allowed the men to get away with it, and there have been countless investigations on it now.

It's the same with celebrity sex abuse crimes, or sexual abuse in the church, etc

Are sexual incidents still happening now ... of course they are, and it's absolutely vile and disgusting. Are immigrants committing them - yes. Are white people committing them too - yes (some 91% of them in 2024).

All sex crimes are disgusting and vile, but racists just want to use this as a weapon. They care nothing for the women at all.

Apart from being of a left-wing persuasion, I have no idea why you are trying to diminish the scandal of the Pakistani rape gangs in the UK, the scale of which makes it the biggest scandal in modern UK history

Or why you are falsely claiming that it is no longer happening and dismissing it as simply being historic, which is completely false; you obviously did not read what Baroness Casey said.

Try putting “Are Pakistani rape gangs still operating in the UK in 2026” into google search.

And next time you spin percentages to support your appalling deflection, remember that Pakistani men only account for 1.25% of the UK population, and  juxtapose that fact with the thousands of rapes and sexual exploitation offences this particular demographic are responsible for.

And claiming that the vast majority of the perpetrators have been caught and locked up, is a total distortion of everything that is true and honest; why do you think the government has established a £65 million statutory public enquiry into the rape gang scandal, which began last month …. you cannot possibly be unaware of that …

21 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

3 more "far right racists " from the march on Saturday

You think a Somali refugee was part of the protest, along with two two people wrapping themselves in Jamaican flags. There were two protests.

You've pinched this photograph from a Twitter owned by "georgie megan walker" who describes herself as a "27 patriot mummy", some kind of code I suppose, who "innocently" posted

"I took my 3 beautiful stepdaughters to the so-called “far right” march in London on 16th May. This was my second time going. Last September I went with their dad to see for myself what it was really about, after hearing the media constantly label it as “far right” — something even my children had started believing."

She goes on to say:

The girls decided they wanted to come — but they also wanted to carry both sides of their heritage proudly. They wore their Jamaican flags 🇯🇲 alongside the English flag 🇬🇧 of their proud English dad, because they are proud of BOTH parts of who they are and they love England ❤️

Apparently Georgie Walker is from Derby. Based on her Twitter/X headshot, she ain't black.

The problem with her story is that the chap in the middle is very well known; he's Jama Elmi, who came from Somalia when he was 8 (his dad being an Ambassador for one of the previous governments over thrown), and who is a "community support worker" (works for the council) and is ambiguous about his sexuality. He is a well known character at the Notting Hill Carnival, and was once voted London's Best Dressed Man. He's not from Derby. He's not their dad, so why did Georgie say that, unless these are just some photos from some other event, posted to give a false picture to people who weren't there.

8 hours ago, kimamey said:

It's not worth trying to converse with you is it? I, and others have provided facts regarding Tommy Robinson's criminal history and you've come back with.

'Brainlessly parrotting nonsensical authoritarian state narratives concerning the torture of a brave journalist who exposed the state coverup of muslim rape gangs.'

It's not a narrative it's facts. I didn't say he chose to be in solitary confinement, because he wasn't. If any of this is untrue perhaps the brave and brilliant investigative journalist Tommy Robinson could put us straight. I won't hold my breath as, much as I dislike, him I don't think he's that stupid.

He does, as far as I can tell, seem to be trying to move away from violence and towards political action. Maybe he's realised that he's getting a bit old to carry on as he did when younger.

One thing I did see whilst checking on his criminal record, was this quote in an interview for The Telegraph regarding his time in prison.

"In Woodhill, I experienced Islam the gang," he said. "In Winchester, I have experienced Islam the religion." He made friends with a lot of Muslim prisoners. "Great lads," he says, "I cannot speak highly enough of the Muslim inmates I’m now living with."

Whether that's his true thoughts, I don't know, but it does show that he may be open to a more reasoned view of Muslims.

Why do you keep repeating his Prison record or criminal past. He done the crime and done the time give it a rest thats all in the past. As for Tommy's time in prison i believe what he told to countless civil rights lawyers who asked for his setanced quashed due to his state of mind in Prison and Musk paid his court fee's he did it because he knew our freedom of speach was suspended by Labour. No one trusts what our Government say anymore. All i will say is they go after people who seek truth and justice.

6 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Apart from being of a left-wing persuasion, I have no idea why you are trying to diminish the scandal of the Pakistani rape gangs in the UK, the scale of which makes it the biggest scandal in modern UK history

Or why you are falsely claiming that it is no longer happening and dismissing it as simply being historic, which is completely false; you obviously did not read what Baroness Casey said.

Try putting “Are Pakistani rape gangs still operating in the UK in 2026” into google search.

And next time you spin percentages to support your appalling deflection, remember that Pakistani men only account for 1.25% of the UK population, and  juxtapose that fact with the thousands of rapes and sexual exploitation offences this particular demographic are responsible for.

And claiming that the vast majority of the perpetrators have been caught and locked up, is a total distortion of everything that is true and honest; why do you think the government has established a £65 million statutory public enquiry into the rape gang scandal, which began last month …. you cannot possibly be unaware of that …

Maybe you would like to ask Donnie Peverly to explain this as you sad Donnie has not seen active grooming gangs for the last 20-25 years. I blocked him for constantly fot being a disruptor so i don't see his rubbish but for you this was a case where a group of Pakistani origin was sentanced this report was 7 Months ago.

8 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

No.

You are conflating two different things. The 'Pakistani grooming gang' was an issue some 15-20 years ago. The vast majority of men have been caught and locked up. It was a rotten system that allowed the men to get away with it, and there have been countless investigations on it now.

It's the same with celebrity sex abuse crimes, or sexual abuse in the church, etc

Are sexual incidents still happening now ... of course they are, and it's absolutely vile and disgusting. Are immigrants committing them - yes. Are white people committing them too - yes (some 91% of them in 2024).

All sex crimes are disgusting and vile, but racists just want to use this as a weapon. They care nothing for the women at all.

Recent case from just yesterday:

Tuesday 19th May 2026 from the West Yorkshire Police website

Twenty people have been jailed for a total of 277 years in a major investigation into sexual abuse committed against young girls in Kirklees.

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/news-appeals/twenty-people-jailed-sexual-abuse-committed-decades-ago-kirklees

j

11 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Well no, he's dead.

But anyway your delusion is getting wilder by the day. Andrew Norfolk, or any other journalist, would have been committing Contempt of Court if they live streamed outside a high profile trial that had media restrictions in place to protect the fairness of the trial. Even more so if that live stream contained aggressive confrontations and calling for vigilante action and posed a serious risk of prejudicing the trial and derailing the entire case, potentially forcing a costly retrial. And that would have led to the victims (who this is all about, right?) have to give their troubling testimony all over again.

And EVEN MORE SO if they were already serving a suspended sentence for Contempt of Court for doing the exact same thing before and had been warned by the judge on numerous occasions. In that same scenario Andrew Norfolk would have gone straight to jail and rightly so.

Yaxley-Lennon is not a journalist, nor is he a hero, he's a drug addled racist thug who gets goons to throw money at him to fund his luxury and drug filled life in Spain. Mugs. And you swallow the lies about him being silenced. He commits crimes, he gets punished for them. Stop committing crimes, stop going to jail - it's pretty simple.

"...posed a serious risk of prejudicing the trial and derailing the entire case, potentially forcing a costly retrial..."

The defendants in the 2018 Leeds Crown Court case had already been found guilty and were coming in for sentencing when confronted by Robinson in his live stream. So the trial couldn't be prejudiced, they had already been found guilty!

Additionally, filming outside a trial isn't contempt of court. How many times have you seen MSM journalists scrum a defendant when entering court and asking them questions. The most recent was Russell Brand who was greeted by a phalanx of reporters outside court.

"...Tommy Robinson is not a journalist..."

He worked for Rebel Media in 2017-18 as a journalist after winning a Shillman fellowship there.

In January 2020, Robinson was given the Sappho Award (also known as the International Free Press award) by the Danish Free Press Society at Christiansborg Palace in Copenhagen.

27 minutes ago, nexus7 said:

"...posed a serious risk of prejudicing the trial and derailing the entire case, potentially forcing a costly retrial..."

The defendants in the 2018 Leeds Crown Court case had already been found guilty and were coming in for sentencing when confronted by Robinson in his live stream. So the trial couldn't be prejudiced, they had already been found guilty!

Additionally, filming outside a trial isn't contempt of court. How many times have you seen MSM journalists scrum a defendant when entering court and asking them questions. The most recent was Russell BranDd who was greeted by a phalanx of reporters outside court.

"...Tommy Robinson is not a journalist..."

He worked for Rebel Media in 2017-18 as a journalist after winning a Shillman fellowship there.

In January 2020, Robinson was given the Sappho Award (also known as the International Free Press award) by the Danish Free Press Society at Christiansborg Palace in Copenhagen.

The Danish Free Press Society has a research arm that publishes only research critical of Islam. I'm sure there are lots of other things in the world going on that can also be criticised.

The Danish Free Press Society likes to present itself as a noble barricade for free speech, butit long ago drifted into something far narrower. Its nothing more than a grievance machine fixated on Islam, immigration and the fantasy that Europe is forever on the brink of collapse. What began as a defensible stand against intimidation after the cartoons crisis has become more like a permanent culture-war performance; all doom, provocation and self-appointed truth-telling. Its habit of fraternising with populist firebrands and “counter-jihad” agitators shows it has no real interest in defending free speech in general, but only the speech that flatters its own worldview.

It has said <deleted> all about media intimidation by politicians, government pressure on American journalists, surveillance of reporters, attacks on whistleblowers, or police raids on newsrooms.

It has said nothing to defend Glenn Greenwald, Julian Assange, Jamal Khashoggi or Edward Snowden. Jamal Khashoggi was murdered in October 2018, essentially for criticising the Saudi government in public. The Sappho Awards are given out in January. You honestly thought Tommy Ten Names was more deserving, when he was awarded it in january 2019?

Ask any member on here if numerouse cases of jihadi involvement and child groomers have been brought out in the open by Tommy Robinson, if it wasn't for him we could have a jihadi or a radical islamist as your next door neighbour. He exposes them and the government don't like it and they would rather silence him, when we ask questions we are called racist's, islamaphobes and right wing dangers to the UK. I know the 3 members will no doubt call me out but its expected from them.

1 hour ago, nexus7 said:

Recent case from just yesterday:

Tuesday 19th May 2026 from the West Yorkshire Police website

Twenty people have been jailed for a total of 277 years in a major investigation into sexual abuse committed against young girls in Kirklees.

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/news-appeals/twenty-people-jailed-sexual-abuse-committed-decades-ago-kirklees

j

You get bigger protests for fox hunting

21 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

Good try Pilgrim. But nonsense as usual. Thanks again because you bullying me about being anti-semitic, rather than being simply anti-Israel, (atm), has motivated me to dig into Israel's current actions more deeply.

Hamas' action on October 7th was terrible beyond words. Hamas, Hezbollah and the like are not to be defended. And I don't.

But Israel as a Nation State, (that should know better), has also now acted deplorably in flattening Gaza and it's people, colonising the West Bank and invading South Lebanon.

No one comes out of this divide of many years, with much credit. But the scale of Israel's current actions is massive, with lives, properties and future's made hopeless.

Put your kneejerks away for a while and let us know, what your solution is ? So that everyone can live in peace out there at some time in the future.

One State ? Two States ? or . . . . ?

Desist from posting these lame, dishonest, caveat-loaded, retrospective disclaimers; not content to simply post a “like” to an appalling, antisemitic, conspiracy theory comment, you decide to make a comment in adulation of it, and then make protestations of impartiality.

Only someone that is vehemently antisemitic could possibly make a swooning fanboy comment of approval to such an antisemitic post; you are just peeved because I continually call you out.

When someone shows you who they are, believe them first time.

3 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Classic whataboutery. I followed this appalling case, and it is another example of children being let down by social services; they were first deemed to be at risk in 2018, although the abuse went back to 2012, and continued long after they were first deemed to be at risk.

Hopefully these scumbags will receive some proper Glaswegian retribution in prison, and fair play to the Judge for handing down lengthy sentences.

However, what disturbs me with yourself, is your attempt to use this to deflect from the thousands of rapes and sexual exploitations carried out by the Pakistani rape gangs; you even go as far as to dishonestly claim that it is no longer happening and is merely historic (as if that makes it okay)

So, what is your reason for continually trying to deflect, diminish and dismiss the magnitude of the continuing Pakistani rape gangs abuse,  because I find your actions really perverse ??   

@TorquayFan ... thanks for the two thumbs down you have just given me; much appreciated

3 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

You get bigger protests for fox hunting

Not to mention the huge numbers who went on anti poll-tax, CND, and Stop the War marches. Tommy's appeal has significantly shrunk.

6 hours ago, nexus7 said:

"...posed a serious risk of prejudicing the trial and derailing the entire case, potentially forcing a costly retrial..."

The defendants in the 2018 Leeds Crown Court case had already been found guilty and were coming in for sentencing when confronted by Robinson in his live stream. So the trial couldn't be prejudiced, they had already been found guilty!

Sorry, you're wrong, completely wrong, there were ongoing trials.

https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2019-07-11/tommy-robinson-handed-nine-month-jail-sentence-for-contempt-of-court?utm_source=chatgpt.com

6 hours ago, nexus7 said:

Additionally, filming outside a trial isn't contempt of court. How many times have you seen MSM journalists scrum a defendant when entering court and asking them questions. The most recent was Russell Brand who was greeted by a phalanx of reporters outside court.

It is contempt of court when there is a reporting ban as there was in this case. It is contempt of court when your actions can influence or prejudice a trial. It is contempt of court when you ignore a court order. That is why he was warned about contempt of court, that is why he was convicted of contempt of court. You don't get convicted of contempt of court in a court of law if it's not contempt of court.

Read up on it.

https://www.gov.uk/contempt-of-court

Your Russell Brand example is completely different - you can photograph people arriving at court, you can report charges and what was said in court. You can not declare guilt, reveal inadmissible evidence or say anything that can prejudice the trial or the jury.

And in fact there was a media advisory in place, which is why the "MSM" adhered to it, because they are responsible, actual journalists - not some jumped up, coked up little scrote who thinks the rules don't apply to him. And when he finds out the hard way that they do apply to him he squeals he is being silenced and you all swallow it up.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/media-advisory-notice-russell-brand

He worked for Rebel Media in 2017-18 as a journalist after winning a Shillman fellowship there.

In January 2020, Robinson was given the Sappho Award (also known as the International Free Press award) by the Danish Free Press Society at Christiansborg Palace in Copenhagen.

At Rebel Media he just made provocative, mostly anti Muslim and anti immigration videos - that is not journalism. I can do that and post my videos on YouTube, that doesn't make me a journalist.

And I love the fact you think you're cornered me with this award, like it was the Pulitzer Prize.

The Danish Free Press Society is an anti-Muslim, "counter-jihad" organisation. It was founded by Lars Hedegaard Jensen who is just a massive anti Muslim critic, nothing else. Have a look at his published works - I don't see much about Free Speech, mainly just anti Muslim drivel.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/biography/Lars+Hedegaard

It's one anti Muslim bigotted organisation recognising an anti Muslim bigot.

Edited May 21May 21 by josephbloggs

8 hours ago, nexus7 said:

Recent case from just yesterday:

Tuesday 19th May 2026 from the West Yorkshire Police website

Twenty people have been jailed for a total of 277 years in a major investigation into sexual abuse committed against young girls in Kirklees.

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/news-appeals/twenty-people-jailed-sexual-abuse-committed-decades-ago-kirklees

j

Strange to post an abuse case that happened decades ago as proof it's still happening.

18 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

He has always held a reasonable view of muslims. He is vehemently opposed to open borders to unvetted young muslim males gimmegrants who have zero to offer the UK other than voting labor, and also political Islam because it is at odds with "Britishness" and will destroy The British way of life.

It is only state media and lefties that falsely claim Robinson "hates muslims".

I am cheered by your above comment, it seems basic known fact is slowly seeping into the densest of skulls.

Thank you for your comment. There are some problems with this.

How do you know the purpose of any person coming to the UK to seek asylum until they have gone through the asylum process? What are we going to do with these people whilst their asylum claims are judged? One of the options taken has been hotels as they are already set up and don't need building or expensive conversion. It's not ideal and is made worse because of delays in processing claims. The reason behind those delays will undoubtedly be lack of funding for lawyers and court facilities. The last government sold off a lot of court buildings, I haven't checked but I seem to remember that about a 100 were disposed of. I would assume this is were asylum cases would be heard. Once in these hotels much of the problem is down to protesters. Fortunately the numbers in hotels has gone down and although some have been moved to other accommodation, the numbers are going down as well. The boat arrivals have gone up but then that may just take more time.

You say "who have zero to offer the UK other than voting labor". So this anti Labour, the democratically elected party in government. Is that in line with "Britishness"?

We know there have been issues of sexual offences by Muslims and asylum seekers, but then you get that in the British population as well, but that doesn't lessen the the importance of those offences. Where it gets a bit confusing is the sight of crowds of people holding crosses, some with placards claiming "Christ is King" and Robinson claiming to have become a Christian. I don't think I need to spell out the problems with the organised Christian religions in relation to sexual conduct.

How British is not knowing how to spell Labour or when to capitalise words that are proper nouns including Muslim. Also "males gimmegrants". What's that? I don't expect everyone to use graduate level English since my own formal English education was a long time ago, and fairly basic. Maybe it isn't your first language, or you were typing quickly on a phone which would explain it. Or given the location and context of these errors, is it more to do with your prejudices?

One last thing. This a video that has appeared on several platforms. I believe the interviewer is a pro Israeli activist, but I can't confirm that, but that's what it says.

He'd end Islam. Is that a 'reasonable' view of Muslims? Are Muslims OK if they don't have any connection to Islam?

Notice what he says about foreign funding. Would that include his own I wonder?

If all migrants are 'sent home tomorrow', how does that fit with your statement about 'unvetted'? Does he envisage some really quick method of determining the validity of someone's asylum claim, 'by tomorrow'? Also in this quick interview he doesn't have time to define 'migrants.'

To be fair he does refer to "many Muslims" not all Muslims when he says they should go home, but I wonder which ones he thinks should stay?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DYbc4qCjGEY/

On 5/20/2026 at 7:24 AM, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Someone posts an antisemitic conspiracy theory rant, blaming Jews and Israel for stoking antisemitism in the diaspora (even though he can’t spell either word) …. and there you are swooning all over him like a fawning underling; myriad issues, with antisemitism naturally at the vanguard.

You say it's a a conspiracy theory, but is there anything to back that up, or evidence to counter it?

Edited May 21May 21 by kimamey
Deleted part that related to another poster. My mistake.

16 minutes ago, kimamey said:

Says someone who can't spell 'Labour' and doesn't know when to use uppercase letters in his reply to me.

You say it's a a conspiracy theory, but is there anything to back that up, or evidence to counter it?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never made any reply to you, either on this, or any other thread.

I just picked this up from a BBC R4 programme, "More or Less", which investigates statistics.

"Last week, Annunziata Rees-Mogg took to X to post a claim about the proportion of sex offences in Dorset that are committed by asylum seekers, writing that “asylum seekers make up 0.8% of Dorset’s population and 44% of alleged sex offenses". Rees-Mogg is the younger Sister of Jacob . . .

The 0.8% was found to relate only to people in Dorset asylum hotels, most of which are in Bournemouth. The 44% claim seems to have come from the dreaded AI.

A 'Freedom of Information' inquiry to the Police said that just ONE person in an asylum hotel had been charged with 8 more having been investigated. Apparently there were 808 sexual offences reported in Bournemouth that year, so the figure is sub 1% not 44% !

I'm recounting this to the best of my recall (E. & O.E.), because cavalier statements tend to feed anti-Muslim, anti-foreigner hysteria to which Tommy Robinson Fans are prone. We've all talked to Tommy Robinson fans and know how they are.

At some point later, BBC interrogate AI and AI apologises for the mistake and it's admitted to be false, (that's a worry!).

I'm against too much Immigration myself and all for a tough reception for illegal Immigrants. But let's try to use correct figures.

"More or Less". BBC R4 - recommended !

Edited May 21May 21 by TorquayFan

6 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never made any reply to you, either on this, or any other thread.

Yes, that was my mistake. I replied to you your post which I think was a reply to TorquayFan but I made the comment about spelling as well. Then I realised it was in reference to another poster. I did edit that out, but you obviously saw it before I did that.

My comment that I left in still stands though.

1 hour ago, kimamey said:

Yes, that was my mistake.

Yes, apologies, that was my mistake

There, fixed it for you ….. you’re welcome

12 hours ago, stevenl said:

Strange to post an abuse case that happened decades ago as proof it's still happening.

They are radicalised.

Same way terrorists get radicalised down a rabbit hole, these racists are being radicalised too. There is literally nothing you can say that will change racism. They need proper therapy.

I sit with guys like this in Pattaya all the time, usually from the UK, you cannot argue facts with them.

One guy was adamant muslims were taking over the UK, and the population was now virutally all muslim. When i pointed out to him that Muslims were only 6% of the population, he would not have it and did not believe the statistics. So then how can i continue the discussion ?

I would have more respect for them if they just came out and said 'yeah i'm racist' lol, but no they love to pontificate. Always the same Brits who move abroad for a better life, then hate those who want to move abroad to the UK to seek a better life. Irony is not lost on them. Oh wait .. the defense, we are good 'expats' ... as they sit in a bar at 10am sipping on the 3rd pint for breakfast, checking the pension balance to see if they have enough to pay for a prostitute later on - QUALITY TOURIST.

6 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

I sit with guys like this in Pattaya all the time

And although I detest them, I am not bright enough to go and sit somewhere else  …. duh

Ha ha ha ha ha .. hilarious

Or did you just invent these people you sit with all the time.

6 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

. as they sit in a bar at 10am sipping on the 3rd pint for breakfast, checking the pension balance to see if they have enough to pay for a prostitute later on - QUALITY TOURIST.

And you sitting with them ALL the time, as you have already informed us; QUALITY TOURIST that you are.

Ha ha ha ha ha .... give yer nut a wobble

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

And you sitting with them ALL the time, as you have already informed us; QUALITY TOURIST that you are.

Ha ha ha ha ha .... give yer nut a wobble

I'd say around 90% of the Brits living in Pattaya are full on racists. No idea why. They are immigrants who have moved half way around the world to chase for a better life, they are constantly belittling the UK (only Farage can save it), but then pontificate how it's ghastly it is for other immigrants to go that apparent awful country to chase a better life.

8 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

They are radicalised.

Same way terrorists get radicalised down a rabbit hole, these racists are being radicalised too. There is literally nothing you can say that will change racism. They need proper therapy.

I sit with guys like this in Pattaya all the time, usually from the UK, you cannot argue facts with them.

One guy was adamant muslims were taking over the UK, and the population was now virutally all muslim. When i pointed out to him that Muslims were only 6% of the population, he would not have it and did not believe the statistics. So then how can i continue the discussion ?

I would have more respect for them if they just came out and said 'yeah i'm racist' lol, but no they love to pontificate. Always the same Brits who move abroad for a better life, then hate those who want to move abroad to the UK to seek a better life. Irony is not lost on them. Oh wait .. the defense, we are good 'expats' ... as they sit in a bar at 10am sipping on the 3rd pint for breakfast, checking the pension balance to see if they have enough to pay for a prostitute later on - QUALITY TOURIST.

When I started reading this comment, I thought it was quite amusing; then it suddenly struck me that it is instead, profoundly sad.

Here you are, an old ex-pat living in Pattaya, slagging off other old ex-pats living in Pattaya for doing exactly what you do yourself, and for living in Pattaya for exactly the same reasons that you are living there for; or are you living there to study marine biology 🤓

Your duplicity is astonishing, and extremely sad to see in someone. 

11 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

When I started reading this comment, I thought it was quite amusing; then it suddenly struck me that it is instead, profoundly sad.

Here you are, an old ex-pat living in Pattaya, slagging off other old ex-pats living in Pattaya for doing exactly what you do yourself, and for living in Pattaya for exactly the same reasons that you are living there for; or are you living there to study marine biology 🤓

Your duplicity is astonishing, and extremely sad to see in someone. 

Not at all. Pointing out racism and hypocrisy is not sad at all.

Basically any immigrant in Thailand should not be pontificating how immigration is bad, when they have taken full advantage of movements. No matter what the rhetoric (usually cited as we are spending tourists, those other immigrants take money out) is usually nonsense, when 1) the government cites immigration brings in more money than takes out, 2) does the work many of the local population do not, etc

You get good and bad immigrants everywhere. I've seen awful immigrants in the UK, who most likely do milk the system. But i've seen career ridden criminals in Thailand who take advantage of the system too.

Just call it out as a racism.

1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

I'd say around 90% of the Brits living in Pattaya are full on racists. No idea why. They are immigrants who have moved half way around the world to chase for a better life, they are constantly belittling the UK (only Farage can save it), but then pontificate how it's ghastly it is for other immigrants to go that apparent awful country to chase a better life.

And the answer is .......... most Brits everywhere hate Islam and want them all either 1 dead, or 2 confined to their Islamic homelands.

45 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

Not at all. Pointing out racism and hypocrisy is not sad at all.

Basically any immigrant in Thailand should not be pontificating how immigration is bad, when they have taken full advantage of movements. No matter what the rhetoric (usually cited as we are spending tourists, those other immigrants take money out) is usually nonsense, when 1) the government cites immigration brings in more money than takes out, 2) does the work many of the local population do not, etc

You get good and bad immigrants everywhere. I've seen awful immigrants in the UK, who most likely do milk the system. But i've seen career ridden criminals in Thailand who take advantage of the system too.

Just call it out as a racism.

Would point out

1. most of us aren't immigrants

2. none of us want to change this country

3. and none of us live on Thai benefits.

4. most of us have plenty of our own money