May 28May 28 13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:Untrue : NOT a US carrierWhile the ship was built and financed in the United States, it is fully operated by the Israeli military and is not an active-duty US Navy carrier or vessel.According to reports and testimonies from passengers, this makeshift detention vessel was the INS Nahshon, which was built in the United States by Bollinger Mississippi Shipbuilding and financed under the US Foreign Military Financing program. Human rights organizations and detainees have alleged severe mistreatment and human rights violations occurred while activists were held on board this vessel.It is a large logistics support and landing craft built in the United States, but it was specifically constructed for and is actively operated by the Israeli Navy.Although the ship was built at Bollinger Shipyards in Mississippi and funded by US military aid, it is an Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) vessel. Its design is heavily based on the General Frank S. Besson-class vessels used by the US Army, rather than the US Navy.The Israeli Navy’s amphibious landing ship INS Nahshon was not purchased directly by Israel; it was fully funded by the U.S. government under the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program as part of a 2019 agreement. Because the vessel was acquired entirely via U.S. military aid, its exact sticker price remains undisclosed to the public.Clear now? It was a free boat, a humanitarian donation by Israel's Uncle.
May 28May 28 5 hours ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:They're delusional and heroes in their own mind and their own mind only. They genuinely expected a hero's welcome, yet Spanish police had none of that - good.They were not carrying food or supplies, unless you're referring to condoms - they had plenty of those. They were fully aware they will be intercepted and had no intention of ever reaching Gaza. I for one think the IDF should let them through and take their chances with Hamas in Gaza! In their delusion they might think they'd be welcomed with open arms, but in reality Hamas would rape and/or kill the women, and 100% kill all gay men. The useful idiots are claiming Israel are monsters and violate human rights - but human rights are meaningless in Gaza under Hamas.In fact, that's all they're asking. So what's with Israel's siege mentality? Let them take their chances in Gaza and see what happens. It wouldn't even be antisemitism to see foreign activists slaughtered!In fact such an outcome wouldn't touch Israel's sterling reputation at all (until the IDF picked off a few activists). If anything, it would show the world that one one in Gaza is safe from Hamas.Prove Israel's point. So why is Israel holding them back? Edited May 28May 28 by unblocktheplanet add
May 28May 28 4 hours ago, Purdey said:Historically, when people have been tortured, the first thing to do is photograph the cuts and bruises as evidence. I can't believe this happened as no photos were revealed. The hair pulling won't show obviously. They should have had CCTV on the boatsTheir phones were confiscated. I think the media provided sufficient photographic evidence as did the hospitals where they were treated. Nobody fakes broken bones!
May 28May 28 8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:No one believes Pallywood anymore .Too many false reports and fabricated claimsNor does anyone believe the moanings of Zionists.
May 28May 28 15 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:Their phones were confiscated. I think the media provided sufficient photographic evidence as did the hospitals where they were treated. Nobody fakes broken bones! Where is the evidence of broken bones ?Post it up
May 28May 28 19 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:In fact, that's all they're asking. So what's with Israel's siege mentality? Let them take their chances in Gaza and see what happens. It wouldn't even be antisemitism to see foreign activists slaughtered! As Israel legally controls the border , Israel would be held responsible for allowing them entry into Gaza . If any harm come to the activists : Israel's fault for allowing them to enter gaza
May 28May 28 4 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:Yep. Brainwashing the population through nationalism by military conscription for all. That's exactly why Israelis statistically support all Israel's wars & other atrocities.I haven't seen any Israeli opinion polls about what Israeli think of the Gaza blockade and the treatment of flotilla activists. Not just this week's but the IDF murdered activists on one of the first boats to run the blockade.I bet Israelis are all for it. It's a military mindset. Israeli society is hypermilitarised. It's hard to see any peace coming with pre-emptive wars.I'd like to know if anyone has an opinion about the other Arab countries. Is the entire population hypermilitarised in any of them? Honest question. I don't know the answer. Back up your answers with facts and references.That's a reasonable question and I would guess that Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan might be the two most extreme examples with South Sudan or Yemen in a close third place. But I am just guessing and that's only an opinion. Israel likely takes first place in the entire region when it comes to the hyper brainwashing and extreme levels of press censorship, despite the fact that it calls itself a democracy, most of us think it's anything but.
May 29May 29 11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:Where is the evidence of broken bones ?Post it upMedical teams treated over 67 participants from the "Global Sumud Flotilla" after Israeli forces intercepted the Gaza-bound aid ships. Detainees reported severe injuries including broken bones, punctured lungs, rubber bullet wounds, and Taser-inflicted eye/ear damage sustained during the naval raid and subsequent military detention.Documented Injuries and AbuseFractures & Severe Trauma: At least 36 distinct bone fractures—including shattered ribs, arms, and legs—were documented across the fleet. Multiple participants, including the flotilla captain, suffered punctured lungs and required extensive hospitalization in Turkey and Greece.Physical & Psychological Abuse: Detainees alleged being subjected to brutal physical assaults, including being choked, stomped on, and deprived of sleep by being forced to kneel for hours in wet shipping containers.Sexual Violence & Degradation: Released activists reported incidents of severe sexual assault, groping, strip searches, and degrading treatment while in custody.International Backlash: The treatment of the activists sparked massive global outrage, leading to formal diplomatic protests from countries like Spain, France, Italy, Canada, and the United Kingdom.Official ResponsesThe Freedom Flotilla Coalition continues to document testimonies of abuse upon the release and deportation of its volunteers. The Israeli Prison Service and military officials strictly deny the allegations of systemic abuse, maintaining that all detainees were handled in accordance with the law and provided with necessary medical care. Legal and human rights organizations, such as Adalah, have condemned the widespread mistreatment and pushed for investigations into the harsh conditions the detainees endured
May 29May 29 11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:As Israel legally controls the border , Israel would be held responsible for allowing them entry into Gaza .If any harm come to the activists : Israel's fault for allowing them to enter gazaActually, I think we can safely say that Israel illegally controls the border as an occupation force. Nothing legal about it. Nor is the blockade.C'mon, let 'em through. Prove Israel's point how dangerous it is in Gaza!
May 29May 29 2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:Actually, I think we can safely say that Israel illegally controls the border as an occupation force. Nothing legal about it. Nor is the blockade.C'mon, let 'em through. Prove Israel's point how dangerous it is in Gaza! Nope ,Under international law, Israel legally controls the borders of the Palestinian territories. Hamas would kill the activists and blame it on Israel and the whole World will once again shout about how bad Israel is . You would lap it up
May 29May 29 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:Nope ,Under international law, Israel legally controls the borders of the Palestinian territories.Hamas would kill the activists and blame it on Israel and the whole World will once again shout about how bad Israel is .You would lap it upThe legality of Israel's borders and control over the Gaza Strip is a highly contested issue in international law, largely depending on whether the territory is viewed as occupied.International Consensus and the ICJMajor international bodies, including the United Nations, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), and the International Court of Justice, consider Gaza to remain an occupied territory. In its advisory opinion, the ICJ ruled that Israel's military presence and control in the occupied Palestinian territories are illegal, finding that Israel continues to exercise key elements of authority over Gaza, such as control of its land borders, airspace, and territorial waters.The Israeli PositionIsrael unilaterally withdrew its military forces and settlements from the Gaza Strip in 2005. The Israeli government maintains that it is no longer the occupying power in Gaza, arguing that its borders with the territory are not international borders of a sovereign state but rather administrative security barriers established to protect against threats from groups like Hamas.
May 29May 29 14 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:Medical teams treated over 67 participants from the "Global Sumud Flotilla" after Israeli forces intercepted the Gaza-bound aid ships. Detainees reported severe injuries including broken bones, punctured lungs, rubber bullet wounds, and Taser-inflicted eye/ear damage sustained during the naval raid and subsequent military detention.Documented Injuries and AbuseFractures & Severe Trauma: At least 36 distinct bone fractures—including shattered ribs, arms, and legs—were documented across the fleet. Multiple participants, including the flotilla captain, suffered punctured lungs and required extensive hospitalization in Turkey and Greece.Physical & Psychological Abuse: Detainees alleged being subjected to brutal physical assaults, including being choked, stomped on, and deprived of sleep by being forced to kneel for hours in wet shipping containers.Sexual Violence & Degradation: Released activists reported incidents of severe sexual assault, groping, strip searches, and degrading treatment while in custody.International Backlash: The treatment of the activists sparked massive global outrage, leading to formal diplomatic protests from countries like Spain, France, Italy, Canada, and the United Kingdom.Official ResponsesThe Freedom Flotilla Coalition continues to document testimonies of abuse upon the release and deportation of its volunteers. The Israeli Prison Service and military officials strictly deny the allegations of systemic abuse, maintaining that all detainees were handled in accordance with the law and provided with necessary medical care. Legal and human rights organizations, such as Adalah, have condemned the widespread mistreatment and pushed for investigations into the harsh conditions the detainees endured4 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:The legality of Israel's borders and control over the Gaza Strip is a highly contested issue in international law, largely depending on whether the territory is viewed as occupied.International Consensus and the ICJMajor international bodies, including the United Nations, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), and the International Court of Justice, consider Gaza to remain an occupied territory. In its advisory opinion, the ICJ ruled that Israel's military presence and control in the occupied Palestinian territories are illegal, finding that Israel continues to exercise key elements of authority over Gaza, such as control of its land borders, airspace, and territorial waters.The Israeli PositionIsrael unilaterally withdrew its military forces and settlements from the Gaza Strip in 2005. The Israeli government maintains that it is no longer the occupying power in Gaza, arguing that its borders with the territory are not international borders of a sovereign state but rather administrative security barriers established to protect against threats from groups like Hamas. I do have Google myself and I do know how to use it ,I can do webseaches myself , I don't need you to do them for me .
May 29May 29 3 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:Medical teams treated over 67 participants from the "Global Sumud Flotilla" after Israeli forces intercepted the Gaza-bound aid ships. Detainees reported severe injuries including broken bones, punctured lungs, rubber bullet wounds, and Taser-inflicted eye/ear damage sustained during the naval raid and subsequent military detention.Documented Injuries and AbuseFractures & Severe Trauma: At least 36 distinct bone fractures—including shattered ribs, arms, and legs—were documented across the fleet. Multiple participants, including the flotilla captain, suffered punctured lungs and required extensive hospitalization in Turkey and Greece.Physical & Psychological Abuse: Detainees alleged being subjected to brutal physical assaults, including being choked, stomped on, and deprived of sleep by being forced to kneel for hours in wet shipping containers.Sexual Violence & Degradation: Released activists reported incidents of severe sexual assault, groping, strip searches, and degrading treatment while in custody.International Backlash: The treatment of the activists sparked massive global outrage, leading to formal diplomatic protests from countries like Spain, France, Italy, Canada, and the United Kingdom.Official ResponsesThe Freedom Flotilla Coalition continues to document testimonies of abuse upon the release and deportation of its volunteers. The Israeli Prison Service and military officials strictly deny the allegations of systemic abuse, maintaining that all detainees were handled in accordance with the law and provided with necessary medical care. Legal and human rights organizations, such as Adalah, have condemned the widespread mistreatment and pushed for investigations into the harsh conditions the detainees endured Is this one of the injured flotilla people ?Took her 12 hours to make a full recovery
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