As the world turns, the chances that there ever will be a "Palestinian State" is waning fast.

As they speak the same language, have the same religion, why has the "Arabic World" not offered the Palestinians "integration" in the many "Arabic countries". Divided over the many arabic countries, they would be a minority, not disturbing the "powers in place" in those countries. But giving them "a new home" within the Arabic world. Especially as the former "Palestine" is (or will) become part of Israel.

Asking: Why does the Arabic World not want Palestinians in their countries? Why is it that nobody wants the Palestinians?

B

Now that's a can of worms question.

35 minutes ago, swissie said:

As the world turns, the chances that there ever will be a "Palestinian State" is waning fast.

As they speak the same language, have the same religion, why has the "Arabic World" not offered the Palestinians "integration" in the many "Arabic countries". Divided over the many arabic countries, they would be a minority, not disturbing the "powers in place" in those countries. But giving them "a new home" within the Arabic world. Especially as the former "Palestine" is (or will) become part of Israel.

Asking: Why does the Arabic World not want Palestinians in their countries? Why is it that nobody wants the Palestinians?

Palestinians have a home in Palestine.

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

B

Now that's a can of worms question.

Not really, unless the rest of the Arabic nations would see the Palestinians as " worms". Hardly, as by dividing them up among the many Arab States, they will stay a minority, not challenging existing "power-structures".

So, the question remains: What have Arabic Nations against their "brothers"? Refusing them to find new homelands within their geographical/religious corner of the world?

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Palestinians have a home in Palestine.

2000 years ago, yes. They called themselves "Philistines" back then. Coastal dwellers. King David fought them successfully. Today, they call themselves Palestinians. A long conquest over the land followed. Israel won. It's hard to lose a war.

Todays citizens of Italy would not dream of conquering the rest of Europe again, just because the old Romans owned Europe in ancient time. Conclusion: Accept defeat in war. The Palestinians have lost the war and Israel has won.

But the question remains: Why are Arab Nations not willing to give their brothers a new homeland?

13 hours ago, swissie said:

2000 years ago, yes. They called themselves "Philistines" back then. Coastal dwellers. King David fought them successfully. Today, they call themselves Palestinians. A long conquest over the land followed. Israel won. It's hard to lose a war.

Todays citizens of Italy would not dream of conquering the rest of Europe again, just because the old Romans owned Europe in ancient time. Conclusion: Accept defeat in war. The Palestinians have lost the war and Israel has won.

But the question remains: Why are Arab Nations not willing to give their brothers a new homeland?

One reason is that they do not trust the Palestinians. And for good reason. Palestinian refugees and minorities do not have a very good record wherever they go. Plus, frankly, most other ethnically Arab countries look down on them as inferior culturally. Finally, they have been very useful as attack dogs against Israel for the past half century or more. Although that may be changing.

14 hours ago, swissie said:

2000 years ago, yes. They called themselves "Philistines" back then. Coastal dwellers. King David fought them successfully. Today, they call themselves Palestinians. A long conquest over the land followed. Israel won. It's hard to lose a war.

Todays citizens of Italy would not dream of conquering the rest of Europe again, just because the old Romans owned Europe in ancient time. Conclusion: Accept defeat in war. The Palestinians have lost the war and Israel has won.

But the question remains: Why are Arab Nations not willing to give their brothers a new homeland?

Modern Palestinian Arabs (an identity group manufactured for political reasons since Israel existed) have NOTHING to do with ancient Philistines.

You sure do fling about a lot of garbage misinformation here.

Modern Palestinians do not descend from the ancient Philistines, as the Philistines were largely destroyed by the 5th century BCE, while the ancestors of Palestinians arrived in the region much later. The term "Palestinian" is derived from "Philistine," but it refers to the people who historically lived in the region, not a direct lineage from the Philistines.

As far as Italians are concerned, it gets more interesting as there are strong genetic connections between Arabs, Jews, and ... wait for it ... Italians.

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14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Palestinians have a home in Palestine.

What other "refugee" group clings to that identity so long and hard?

The Jewish people impacted by the massive Jewish Nakba (from the Arab world, North Africa, Iraq, etc.) who often had all their wealth and lands stolen have moved on from that long ago.

I think the Arab world often uses Palestinian permanent refugee status to deflect hatred towards Israel so that they don't have to deal with their own internal problems which have nothing to do with Jews or Israelis.

No I'm not saying that's the full entire story nor am I saying that Israeli governments have behaved well either, but it's definitely part of the story.

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

What other "refugee" group clings to that identity so long and hard?

The Jews impacted by the massive Jewish Nakba who often had all their wealth and lands stolen have moved on from that long ago.

I think Arab world often use Palestinian to deflect towards Israel so that they don't have to deal with their own internal problems which have nothing to do with Jews or Israelis.

ME!

The Romans destroyed my race, and still everyone is allowed to discriminate openly against us.

Just now, BritManToo said:

ME!

The Romans destroyed my race, and still everyone is allowed to discriminate openly agains

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

ME!

The Romans destroyed my race, and still everyone is allowed to discriminate openly against us.

I'm taking that as a troll post, but what "refugee group" are you a part of?

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'm taking that as a troll post, but what "refugee group" are you a part of?

The European Germanic tribes.

And I've suffered racism against me and my people all my life.

Would you want a country populated by mothers having as many kids as possible and proudly bragging that they hope they will all become suicide bombers?

The Iranian FM Araghchi when asked a similar question had an excellent response, albeit with a bit of saucy humor. Paraphrasing:

The Palestinians have lived there for thousands of years. It's their home. I have a suggestion to kill two birds with one stone. Give the Israeli Jews American citizenship and send them to Greenland.

Makes sense. Caucasians belong as natives in the ME as much as they belong say in Thailand. But Greenland? Araghchi might have forgotten about the native Inuits who look like this:-)

It's not clear where the Jews go where they won't be a pain in the ass.

12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The European Germanic tribes.

And I've suffered racism against me and my people all my life.

Rubbish...

7 minutes ago, Autocan said:

The Palestinians have lived there for thousands of years. It's their home.

That's a myth, many Palestinians emigrated to the area when it became prosperous when the Jews began building the Country .

They emigrated from surrounding Countries for work in Isreal

24 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The European Germanic tribes.

And I've suffered racism against me and my people all my life.

You're talking about a right wing political ideology of white resentment in the west which was the main force that brought the maga fascist Trumpist regime to power.

Nothing at all to do with the subject of "permanent refugee" status often associated with Palestinian Arabs.

As I suspect. you are just trolling.

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9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

That's a myth, many Palestinians emigrated to the area when it became prosperous when the Jews began building the Country .

They emigrated from surrounding Countries for work in Isreal

100 percent true but the obsessive Israel demonizers either don't know that fact, or if they've heard about it, they simply deny it as it doesn't fit with their Jews white evil colonizers/Arabs brown skinned saints bubble mentality.

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20 minutes ago, Autocan said:

The Iranian FM Araghchi when asked a similar question had an excellent response, albeit with a bit of saucy humor. Paraphrasing:

The Palestinians have lived there for thousands of years. It's their home. I have a suggestion to kill two birds with one stone. Give the Israeli Jews American citizenship and send them to Greenland.

Makes sense. Caucasians belong as natives in the ME as much as they belong say in Thailand. But Greenland? Araghchi might have forgotten about the native Inuits who look like this:-)

It's not clear where the Jews go where they won't be a pain in the ass.

Makes "sense" to vile racist Jew haters.

20 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

That's a myth, many Palestinians emigrated to the area when it became prosperous when the Jews began building the Country .

They emigrated from surrounding Countries for work in Isreal

Palestinians emigrated to Israel after it was established in 1948. There were none there before then. Makes sense. Do you have a podcast or newsletter I can subscribe to?

1 minute ago, Autocan said:

Palestinians emigrated to Israel after it was established in 1948. There were none there before then. Makes sense. Do you have a podcast or newsletter I can subscribe to?

Straw man garbage.

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're talking about a right wing political ideology of white resentment in the west which was the main force that brought the maga fascist Trumpist regime to power.

Nothing at all to do with the subject of "permanent refugee" status often associated with Palestinian Arabs.

As I suspect. you are just trolling.

And you wonder why people hate Jews!

Just now, BritManToo said:

And you wonder why people hate Jews!

Another one coming out as a racist Jew hater.

All the "cool kids" are doing it so why not?

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17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Makes "sense" to vile racist Jew haters.

Good heavens, I am not a Jew hater. Well, okay, I'll qualify that. Those in the top pic, I would cross the street to avoid. Gal Gadot? Oh, yea.

Gotta be selective in loathing Israeli Jews. Can't throw out the babe with the bathwater.

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35 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Good heavens, I am not a Jew hater. Well, okay, I'll qualify that. Those in the top pic, I would cross the street to avoid. Gal Gadot? Oh, yea.

Gotta be selective in loathing Israeli Jews. Can't throw out the babe with the bathwater.

I call BS.

Your words:

It's not clear where the Jews go where they won't be a pain in the ass.

1 hour ago, Autocan said:

Palestinians emigrated to Israel after it was established in 1948. There were none there before then. Makes sense. Do you have a podcast or newsletter I can subscribe to?

No, that wasn't what I said .

Can you compare my post to your post and notice the difference yourself ?

*That's a myth, many Palestinians emigrated to the area when it became prosperous when the Jews began building the Country .

They emigrated from surrounding Countries for work in Isreal*

Can you see the word that changes the context between our two posts ?

1 hour ago, Autocan said:

It's not clear where the Jews go where they won't be a pain in the ass.

Wherever Jews go, your side will be following them there and try to make them go somewhere else .

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

What other "refugee" group clings to that identity so long and hard?

The Jewish people impacted by the massive Jewish Nakba (from the Arab world, North Africa, Iraq, etc.) who often had all their wealth and lands stolen have moved on from that long ago.

I think the Arab world often uses Palestinian permanent refugee status to deflect hatred towards Israel so that they don't have to deal with their own internal problems which have nothing to do with Jews or Israelis.

No I'm not saying that's the full entire story nor am I saying that Israeli governments have behaved well either, but it's definitely part of the story.

The Irish diaspora for one, the Jewish diaspora for a second, there are others.

25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Irish diaspora for one, the Jewish diaspora for a second, there are others.

Incorrect.

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15 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

No, that wasn't what I said .

Can you compare my post to your post and notice the difference yourself ?

*That's a myth, many Palestinians emigrated to the area when it became prosperous when the Jews began building the Country .

They emigrated from surrounding Countries for work in Isreal*

Can you see the word that changes the context between our two posts ?

Disputing rights to be there in the basis of ‘emigration’ is a remarkably myopic argument.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Disputing rights to be there in the basis of ‘emigration’ is a remarkably myopic argument.

They are mostly Jordanians and even Jordan doesn't want them back, you can see where the real problem is no ?