11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Stuff fed you on the internet is not ‘research’.

I suggest you read some actual history.

So there's no actual history on the internet then? Hilarious facile excuse for a response! I do happen to read a lot of factual history. From real books too. You apparently do not.

1 hour ago, Katatonica said:

So there's no actual history on the internet then? Hilarious facile excuse for a response! I do happen to read a lot of factual history. From real books too. You apparently do not.

Next time you read a book, try to inwardly digest what’s written in it.

4 hours ago, Katatonica said:

Who else will at least attempt to counter the appalling DEI take-over of British civil services? It's now started killing innocent people. Where will it stop?

Katatonica - I agree with you about DEI running through the Police/Civil service etc. But I'm optimistic that sanity is slowly returning on this front.

On 6/2/2026 at 10:16 PM, TorquayFan said:

Puff of wind is spot on ! Reform are corrupt and populist !

The use of the term populist is intended to be dismissive of genuine concern that many citizens have that has been acted upon by social and political leaders. If these concerns had been acted upon in a responsible manner years ago, there would have been no Reform and no Restore Britain. I have no love for Mr. Farage and question many of his positions, but the sad reality is that he is one of the few political leaders in the UK willing to listen and to offer up concrete actions to address serious issues. His supporters have genuine concerns and cannot be condescendingly waved away as if they do not matter.

The allegations of corruption are unproven. If you have the evidence, bring it forward and have the guilty parties held accountable.

13 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The allegations of corruption are unproven. If you have the evidence, bring it forward and have the guilty parties held accountable.

Unproven ???? Whilst investigations into Farage's gift continue, I don't think even Farage is now denying that he received £5 million! He wasn't going to stand as an MP until that bounty arrived and changed his mind !

How low? Lets just say they could walk upright under a snakes belly and the snake wouldn't even notice it.

On 6/3/2026 at 7:09 AM, baansgr said:

It's obvious there are news outlets trying to deliberately stir up hatred in the UK.

But how low in the gutter can they go.

Well the left leaning rag the guardian has gone one better.

In one breath it says keep constraint, don't be a far right fascist and yet their headline news today is about a protest outside Southampton police station.

All seems ok till you look at their picture, flames burning...in fact there were no flames only a few missiles thrown...this is typical lying lefty reporting

What's the Daily Express and Daily Mail saying about this?

On 6/3/2026 at 2:31 AM, baansgr said:

No looting, no burning down shops or buildings, no toppling of statues and no masks, wouldn't exactly call them thugs. Maybe just people that are scared they may end up like the poor boy that was killed but on point and the topic in hand, why are the guardian deliberately trying to inflame tensions by using false photos of something they didn't happen in the advertised article..please someone explain to me??

On 6/3/2026 at 12:09 AM, baansgr said:

It's obvious there are news outlets trying to deliberately stir up hatred in the UK.

But how low in the gutter can they go.

Well the left leaning rag the guardian has gone one better.

In one breath it says keep constraint, don't be a far right fascist and yet their headline news today is about a protest outside Southampton police station.

All seems ok till you look at their picture, flames burning...in fact there were no flames only a few missiles thrown...this is typical lying lefty reporting

A bin was set on fire. A mother living very near the protest said she had 2 kids asleep upstairs and was worried about her car parked in her driveway. She was thinking about waking the kids and fleeing the scene.

Then that well known lefty news outlet GB news mentioned flaming wheelie bins.

Edited June 4Jun 4 by bannork

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

A bin was set on fire. A mother living very near the protest said she had 2 kids asleep upstairs and was worried about her car parked in her driveway. She was thinking about waking the kids and fleeing the scene.

Then that well known lefty news outlet GB news mentioned flaming wheelie bins.

No looting, no burning down shops

Nigel Farage asked a question in Parliment to Starmer in PMQS about the Police Anti-Racism Comitment a fair question, the Doccument instructed Police officers to treat different ethnic groups in different ways more commonly translated as a policy to treat ethnic minorities above the locals when justice is concerned and for that Starmer and the rest turned on Farage. Instead of debating this paper and what it says about justice there more interested in shooting the messenger.Lets not forget the Met itself admitted they are Institutionalzed Racists in the Ranks.

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

No looting, no burning down shops

Indeed. They were very well behaved, throwing bricks, glass bottles, wheelie bins and beer cans, plus a scooter at policemen and policewomen.

Oh! I forgot, they also threw flares, stones and chairs.

It was difficult to loot because it was a residential estate where they ended up. No shops to burn nearby.

Plus, they would have had to break into houses in broad daylight and most people only keep a few cans of lager in their fridges.

58 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Nigel Farage asked a question in Parliment to Starmer in PMQS about the Police Anti-Racism Comitment a fair question, the Doccument instructed Police officers to treat different ethnic groups in different ways more commonly translated as a policy to treat ethnic minorities above the locals when justice is concerned and for that Starmer and the rest turned on Farage. Instead of debating this paper and what it says about justice there more interested in shooting the messenger.Lets not forget the Met itself admitted they are Institutionalzed Racists in the Ranks.

Your last sentence is correct . There are institutionalized racists in the Met and they're racist towards blacks and ethnic minorities.

1. The Baroness Louise Casey Review: Triggered by the murder of Sarah Everard, the landmark Casey Review explicitly labeled the Metropolitan Police as institutionally racist, misogynistic, and homophobic. It detailed a "boys' club" culture where ethnic minority officers face routine bullying and black Londoners are heavily over-policed yet under-protected. [1, 2]

2. BBC Panorama Undercover Exposé: Undercover filming at London's Charing Cross police station captured serving frontline officers using racist and Islamophobic language, mocking immigrants, and revelling in the unlawful use of physical force. [1, 2, 3]

3. The Macpherson Report: This historical inquiry into the 1993 murder of Black teenager Stephen Lawrence first officially branded the Met as "institutionally racist", establishing a decades-long record of unaddressed systemic bias. [1, 2, 3, 4]

is there racism in the Met police UK? - Google Search

1 hour ago, bannork said:

Indeed. They were very well behaved, throwing bricks, glass bottles, wheelie bins and beer cans, plus a scooter at policemen and policewomen.

Oh! I forgot, they also threw flares, stones and chairs.

It was difficult to loot because it was a residential estate where they ended up. No shops to burn nearby.

Plus, they would have had to break into houses in broad daylight and most people only keep a few cans of lager in their fridges.

I glad you agree they were very well behaved... especially compared to the violent thugs that my comment was referring too

On 6/3/2026 at 9:19 AM, baansgr said:

For anyone that wishes to report the guardian, just take 15 minutes of your time. Bad, false reporting needs to be held to account.

How's this going? Has your complaint been upheld? 🤭

Edited June 4Jun 4 by brewsterbudgen

5 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

commonly translated as a policy to treat ethnic minorities above the locals when justice is concerned

Commonly translated as such by whom?

5 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Lets not forget the Met itself admitted they are Institutionalzed Racists in the Ranks.

And the ranks of the Reform party and their followers are chock full of their own bigoted, institutionalised racists. The difference is they haven't admitted it yet.

Edited June 4Jun 4 by NanLaew

On 6/3/2026 at 6:09 AM, baansgr said:

It's obvious there are news outlets trying to deliberately stir up hatred in the UK.

But how low in the gutter can they go.

Well the left leaning rag the guardian has gone one better.

In one breath it says keep constraint, don't be a far right fascist and yet their headline news today is about a protest outside Southampton police station.

All seems ok till you look at their picture, flames burning...in fact there were no flames only a few missiles thrown...this is typical lying lefty reporting

That's not the image I see for the article, I suspect that came from a feed not the Guardian website.

1 minute ago, Stocky said:

That's not the image I see for the article, I suspect that came from a feed not the Guardian website.

It's already been removed after my complaints

On 6/3/2026 at 4:30 AM, Katatonica said:

Bit ironic but hey-ho. Maybe do a spot of research then. It was only decided they should be called right-wing after the concentration camps were discovered.

This post alone, sir, shows how utterly clueless you are about that.

On 6/3/2026 at 6:36 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Next time you read a book, try to inwardly digest what’s written in it.

I dread to think what s/he's read looking at those posts. Published by the Alternative Facts Press Ltd.

How low can the Press go

The majority of news paper journalists, could crawl under a snakes belly with a Top Hat on

with ease.

Edited June 4Jun 4 by rocketboy2

On 6/3/2026 at 4:48 AM, Katatonica said:

I do happen to read a lot of factual history

Not about Nazis and the 3rd Reich you don't.

And what you say about that doesn't speak well for any other Jackanory history books you might have indulged in either.

And here's a thought for you. What is 'factual' history? Ans: Your sad appeal to authority.

2 minutes ago, rocketboy2 said:

The majority of news paper journalists, could crawl under a snakes belly with a top hat on

with ease.

And what about the millions of dumbos who lap their garbage up and even pay for it?

On 6/2/2026 at 10:20 PM, Katatonica said:

The fascists are the ones on the left, just like the Nazis, short for (in German) the National Socialist party. Hitler was a Marxist, just like Starmer and the other power-hungry fascists in the current corrupt British Government. Their entire focus is on growing and protecting their voter base, not Britain itself.

First, Hitler was not a Marxist.

Marxists, communists and socialists were among the first groups the Nazis imprisoned, persecuted and killed after taking power.

Second, most historians do not classify Nazism as a left-wing movement. The fact that the Nazi Party included the word "Socialist" in its name does not make it socialist in the Marxist sense, any more than North Korea is democratic because it calls itself the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea."

Third, Keir Starmer is generally regarded as a center-left or moderate social democratic politician, not a fascist. In fact, many people on the British left criticize him for moving Labour toward the political center.

It's perfectly reasonable to disagree with Starmer's policies, but calling him a Marxist fascist requires redefining both "Marxist" and "fascist" beyond what those terms actually mean.

On 6/2/2026 at 10:30 PM, Katatonica said:

Bit ironic but hey-ho. Maybe do a spot of research then. It was only decided they should be called right-wing after the concentration camps were discovered.

That's an interesting theory.

Do you have a source for the global historian conference where they supposedly decided to move the Nazis from left-wing to right-wing after 1945?

Was there a vote? Minutes? Complimentary sandwiches?

As far as I can tell, Nazis are classified as far-right because of their ultranationalism, racial ideology, authoritarianism and anti-Marxism.

Not because someone changed the labels after the war.

Returning to the subject a little, I read that the Police detaining poor Henry couldn't see blood from the wounds and that the penetrations through his shirt were not clearly evident.

Now, don't put me down as apologising for the Police, I'm not. And maybe, DEI training had been a factor in the way they responded.

I too would like to see less DEI focus and no more events like this - I'm sure the Officers involved feel desolate at their mistake.

Talk of Two Tier Policing is though, IMO, inflammatory nonsense - you know, sometimes life and sod's Law are at work.

RIP Henry and all sympathy for his Family. I'm sure all those involved are distraught in extremes.

Both Reform and Restore Britain are using this terrible case to whip up support in the upcoming by election in Makerfield.

It could be enough to sink Burnham which could give Kier another three years in the driving seat. Beep! Beep!

11 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

Unproven ???? Whilst investigations into Farage's gift continue, I don't think even Farage is now denying that he received £5 million! He wasn't going to stand as an MP until that bounty arrived and changed his mind !

Mr. Farage does not deny receiving a gift. It was prior to his entry into politics. Corruption requires a violation of an existing statute, and to date there is no allegation that he did so. What specific law did he break when accepting the gift?

Yes, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards is investigating whether the gift violated Commons rules because it was not specifically declared. However, Commons Rules are just that rules and not law. If an MP takes money in exchange for his vote, then that is a violation of a Commons Rule and a specific law. If an MP accepts money from lobbyists without filing a declaration, that too is a violation of a commons rule and a specific law. If a private citizen accepts a financial gift, it is a personal matter. Farage was not an MP when he received the gift intended to cover his personal security expenses. Mr. Farage did provide a declaration of his assets when he became an MP. The issue appears to be whether or not the declaration was compliant with the Commons regulations and if there was an intention to deceive. Once the investigation is complete and it finds a violation of the rule, then you can point your finger. It would have to be shown that there was an intent to commit a criminal act in order for there to be corruption and to date there is no evidence of that.

All these members calling Farage and Reform but they won't answer if he is as bad as they say and reform are a blip why did most of the country vote for them in the county Elections or are all the voters that voted for reform Racist's and bigots ?. Tell us why they beat the Tories and the sleazy labour party without deflecting.

13 hours ago, baansgr said:

It's already been removed after my complaints

You wish.

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

You wish.

Well nobody else has seen it "apparently" so I would think it was 👍