If this is true that would be the least surprising thing I've read in a long, long time. It seems Netanyahu needs the failed war on Iran and Lebanon to continue if he's gonna have a chance at winning the upcoming election.

"US spy agencies have warned Donald Trump that Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu is poised to torpedo his fragile peace deal with Iran to save his own political skin.

Netanyahu, who faces a general election in the fall, is expected to escalate strikes on Iran's proxy terror group Hezbollah in Lebanon to shore up support at home, a fresh intelligence report warns.

An official familiar with the report told the Washington Post that Israel's leadership is frustrated with Trump's 14-point plan and what it sees as a capitulation to Tehran."

Edited June 20Jun 20 by BLMFem

Miriam Adelson is trump's biggest political donor, and a mouthpiece for Netanyahu.

35 minutes ago, Packer said:

Then send those with international warrants for their arrest on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity to the ICC to have their day in court. 🙂

And how are you going implement those warrants ?? The Icc is a toothless organization it does not have jurisdiction in Israel Bibi already has an arrest warrant means nothing

14 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Sorry to hear that the slaughter that took place in Gaza wasn't enough to sway the Israeli electorate.

There are two things they love.

1. Slaughtering Muslims. The women, the children.

2. Crying like hysterical babies when they get a little bump on the nose before screaming antisemitism.

Another term for the wanted war criminal will really speed up the eventual demise of Israel.

Don't miss the last plane out. You know how handy the neighbors are with machetes and meat cleavers.

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There really is no logical reason that one can come up with to defend Hamas. They are a terrorist organization after all and they do engage in terror. I was not referring to the defense of Hamas. I was referring to the criticism of Israel and believe me as an American Jew I take a lot of flack for criticizing Israeli government policy, and that goes back 40 years, and that's a fact. The Israeli lobby, the Israeli government, and many Jews and Christians are highly intolerant of any criticism of Israel. Any. Period.

They are obsessed with the old testament an eye for an eye. And this way the chief nutter can pander even more to his extremist supporters, who possess enough hatred in their hearts for the entire nation.

The number one reason is the fact that Israel spends more money on lobbying the US than any other entity on the planet. In addition they are very skillful at demonizing anyone who criticizes Israel or Israeli policy on any level and accusing them of anti-Semitism which is total BS.

The second reason is the fact that the other Jewish lobbies have a tremendous amount of influence and Congress in the Senate are scared to death of alienating them.

And the third reason is that Trump seems to be Netanyahu's man's slave, much the same as he is Putin's man's slave, so Congress and the Senate are afraid of doing anything that might piss off the chief goon.

Nothing ever happens in a vacuum. Cause and effect. Oppression and being treated as second class citizens leads to unrest. This has happened throughout history. It is happening in that area now. Some political science professors would refer to it as blowback. Israel has become an obnoxious bully. 

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There really is no logical reason that one can come up with to defend Hamas. They are a terrorist organization after all and they do engage in terror.

Dr Finkelstein does his best ...and by now with 22,000 children dead now that's what I call terrorism and we can probably triple that number of maimed and twisted. Like the Holocaust the world will never forget .

Edited June 20Jun 20 by beautifulthailand99

26 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Sorry to hear that the slaughter that took place in Gaza wasn't enough to sway the Israeli electorate. Reminds me about the situation in the US where MAGA are OK with ICE killings, the killing of pot smugglers, tariffs, TACO's, in-your-face grift, and only gets concerned when the price of gas goes up.

It's not the same thing.

October 7 shocked Israelis.

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's not the same thing.

October 7 shocked Israelis.

And understandably so. However, that doesn't give the Israelis the right to do what they have done in Gaza, where estimated deaths are in the 75,000-90,000 range.

That's not an unfortunate overreaction, that's systematic ethnic cleansing and genocide.

This is Mandy Patinkin, an American Jew, asking the hard question.

1 hour ago, Packer said:

Sounds like typical Jew hysteria.

There are around 8 million Jewry in north America.

Israel imploding and every single Jew there being butchered by their Muslim neighbors does not mean total eradication of the Jews.

Stop being so dramatic.

But 50,000 "Palestinians" being killed in military strikes is a genocide, got it.

50 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Dr Finkelstein does his best ...and by now with 22,000 children dead now that's what I call terrorism and we can probably triple that number of maimed and twisted. Like the Holocaust the world will never forget .

50 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's not the same thing.

October 7 shocked Israelis.

27 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

that doesn't give the Israelis the right to do what they have done in Gaza, where estimated deaths are in the 75,000-90,000 range.

That's not an unfortunate overreaction, that's systematic ethnic cleansing and genocide.

2,000 million Muslims.

16 million Jewry.

When the funding dries up, the world has turned its back, and Jews are nearly the Israeli minority, the butchers will return.

Bye bye Israel. Don't miss the last plane out whatever you do! 🙂

53 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Dr Finkelstein does his best ...and by now with 22,000 children dead now that's what I call terrorism and we can probably triple that number of maimed and twisted. Like the Holocaust the world will never forget .

How does Finkelstein define children to get the 22,000?

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

But 50,000 "Palestinians" being killed in military strikes is a genocide, got it.

No you don't 'got it'. Nearly 90k Palestinians killed by IDF butchery and absolute disregard for human life. Also I do not condone what haven't Oct 6th..it was also terrible, but 1200, compared to 90k is just ethnic cleaning by the Israeli Govt, carried out by the IDF.

1 minute ago, couchpotato said:

No you don't 'got it'. Nearly 90k Palestinians killed by IDF butchery and absolute disregard for human life. Also I do not condone what haven't Oct 6th..it was also terrible, but 1200, compared to 90k is just ethnic cleaning by the Israeli Govt, carried out by the IDF.

Hmmm.I think I do got it, I think it's you don't got it.

The IDF warning civilians to evacuate before they bomb to minimize civilian casualties is "butchery and absolute disregard for human life"

Palestine raping, killing, torturing is not "butchery and absolute disregard for human life". You don't condone, it, but you understand it give the circumstances, yes?

If Palestine had killed 90K Jews, which side would you be supporting?

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Hmmm.I think I do got it, I think it's you don't got it.

The IDF warning civilians to evacuate before they bomb to minimize civilian casualties is "butchery and absolute disregard for human life"

Palestine raping, killing, torturing is not "butchery and absolute disregard for human life". You don't condone, it, but you understand it give the circumstances, yes?

If Palestine had killed 90K Jews, which side would you be supporting?

You're a sad man Mr Yellow and beyond redemption...so enuff for today. Take care.

Interesting polling numbers from Israel. Hopefully this will translate into regime change in the coming election.

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

And understandably so. However, that doesn't give the Israelis the right to do what they have done in Gaza, where estimated deaths are in the 75,000-90,000 range.

That's not an unfortunate overreaction, that's systematic ethnic cleansing and genocide.

This is Mandy Patinkin, an American Jew, asking the hard question.

I don't appreciate the Jew washing.

I agree Israel's reaction went way too far.

Sorry to say to you who thinks simplistically and can't imagine being Israeli, I don't think that's the issue of primary focus for the elections.

The Israelis are voting for an Israeli government in their interests, not to please pro Palestinian activisits.

I know what you THINK Israelis should be focused on. That's not the political reality.

19 hours ago, BLMFem said:

When a government minister writes this you know things are out of control.

Shades of 85 years ago when another genocidal monster prowled the Earth.

“History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes”
-Mark Twain

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Interesting polling numbers from Israel. Hopefully this will translate into regime change in the coming election.

Hilariously, you are clueless about the actual meaning of those not at all surprising poll results.

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Hilariously, you are clueless about the actual meaning of those not at all surprising poll results.

Be that as it may I'm still hoping it will translate into change. Israel isn't going anywhere, but neither are the Palestinians. The sooner this is understood, the sooner a two state agreement can be reached.

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Be that as it may I'm still hoping it will translate into change. Israel isn't going anywhere, but neither are the Palestinians. The sooner this is understood, the sooner a two state agreement can be reached.

I would definitely hope that Netanyahu's career will soon be over and that seems possible now, but the reasons most Israelis that oppose him are different than yours reasons which is very simplistic and very one dimensional.

I reckon you don't respect their reasons and the feeling is mutual.

Edited June 20Jun 20 by Jingthing

The next time you hear Allahu Akbar' being shouted before the inevitable' next atrocity remember you would have heard it a thousand times more without Mossad' and the IDF 'and Netanyahu' the magnificent 🤔

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I would definitely hope that Netanyahu's career will soon be over and that seems possible now, but the reasons most Israelis hate him are different than yours which is very simplistic and very one dimensional.

I know that Israeli politics are very complex, with a myriad of smaller parties that ensures every government must be a coalition, which brings about inherent instability, especially when many of the small parties are just narrow interest groups for often quite radical parts of the population.

But honestly, I don't care what exactly it is that makes Israelis vote him out of office (if that is indeed what's going to happen), as long as it happens.

And to call my reason for wanting him out "simplistic and very one dimensional" is something I can easily live with.

I just want the mass killings of civilians to end. If you need further reasons to want him out then that's on you.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

The IDF warning civilians to evacuate before they bomb

For an evacuation warning to be considered lawful rather than a war crime, it must:

1. Be effective: Provide enough time and safe routes for civilians to flee.

2. Ensure basic needs: Be conducted in safe and humane conditions.

3. Be temporary: Allow civilians to return home as soon as hostilities in the area cease.

The Israeli military’s repeated use of unlawful mass “evacuation” and no-return orders to displace and terrify hundreds of thousands of people in Lebanon flagrantly violates international humanitarian law, said Amnesty International. In southern Lebanon, these orders have been used as a deliberate tool to forcibly displace civilians from their homes, tens of thousands of whom Israel has then prevented from returning home. This constitutes unlawful transfer which, as a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention, amounts to a war crime.  

In a new investigation combining analysis of Israeli military orders issued to residents of Lebanon via X since 2024, interviews with people displaced from Israel’s unilaterally declared no-return zones, and open source analysis, Amnesty International found that the Israeli military radically expanded its use of mass displacement in Lebanon in 2026, subjecting far more residents, far more often, to a flood of unlawful mass “evacuation” orders, while it furthered its plan to destroy more homes and civilian infrastructure and depopulate large parts of the south.  

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2026/06/lebanon-israel-radically-expands-use-of-unlawful-mass-evacuation-orders-and-commits-war-crime-of-unlawful-transfer/

No country is killing as many journalists as Israel, and it's not even close. Some of them are clearly targeted killings.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

How does Finkelstein define children to get the 22,000?

These figures are widely accepted by international organisations and humanitarian agencies. If you want to add the usual Israeli rebuttals, caveats and challenges to the numbers, go ahead. But outside Israel's most committed supporters, fewer and fewer people appear convinced by those arguments. At this point, there would almost be more honesty in acknowledging the scale of what has happened.

Israel's fundamental historical problem, in my view, is that it was a settler-colonial project born in the twentieth century rather than the nineteenth. In an earlier era, indigenous populations were often displaced, destroyed or marginalised to such an extent that they ceased to be politically significant, as happened in parts of Australia and North America. By contrast, Israel was established in an age of mass media, international law and global scrutiny.

Today, military actions are documented in real time. Images, videos and eyewitness accounts are transmitted around the world instantly. Whatever one's view of the conflict, the destruction and loss of life in Gaza are being witnessed by a global audience as they occur, and that reality is shaping international perceptions in a way that would not have been possible in previous centuries.

31 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I would definitely hope that Netanyahu's career will soon be over and that seems possible now, but the reasons most Israelis that oppose him are different than yours reasons which is very simplistic and very one dimensional.

I reckon you don't respect their reasons and the feeling is mutual.

"I reckon you don't respect their reasons and the feeling is mutual."

You edited in this line and I want to comment on it. You claim the reasons most Israelis that oppose him are different than mine (yet offer no example/opinion).

You're probably right, but how can I respect/disrespect something I have no knowledge of? I don't live in Israel so I don't care about his domestic policies.

I do care about what's been shown on my TV for the last 2.5 years though, and for me that's more than reason enough for me to want him gone.

And the feeling is mutual? Fine, but they should know that Israeli arrogance is something they can ill afford, especially if they lose the stranglehold on large parts of the US Congress.

This is what Israeli racism looks like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaled_Abdul-Wahab

Although nominated, Abdul-Wahab still has to be approved by the Yad Vashem commission that grants the honor. Yad Vashem has conferred the honor on 60 Muslims, including Turks, Tatars and Bosnians, with Mohammed Helmy as the only such Arab. Most of the Muslims who received the award were Albanians. Abdul-Wahab's case has already been once studied by the Righteous Among the Nations Department of Yad Vashem but it was declined on the basis that Khaled Abdul-Wahab did not risk his own life; that he had "hosted" rather than hidden Jews, and that the Germans were aware of the presence of Jews on his family's farm.^[4] Saving Jews in Tunisia was not against the law at the time and the saviors did not risk their own lives and safety which is a necessary condition in proclaiming a person Righteous Among the Nations.^[9] His daughter Faiza Abdul Wahab commented: "My father opened his home to Jews and Yad Vashem did not open their home to us.

3 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

These figures are widely accepted by international organisations and humanitarian agencies. If you want to add the usual Israeli rebuttals, caveats and challenges to the numbers, go ahead. But outside Israel's most committed supporters, fewer and fewer people appear convinced by those arguments. At this point, there would almost be more honesty in acknowledging the scale of what has happened.

Israel's fundamental historical problem, in my view, is that it was a settler-colonial project born in the twentieth century rather than the nineteenth. In an earlier era, indigenous populations were often displaced, destroyed or marginalised to such an extent that they ceased to be politically significant, as happened in parts of Australia and North America. By contrast, Israel was established in an age of mass media, international law and global scrutiny.

Today, military actions are documented in real time. Images, videos and eyewitness accounts are transmitted around the world instantly. Whatever one's view of the conflict, the destruction and loss of life in Gaza are being witnessed by a global audience as they occur, and that reality is shaping international perceptions in a way that would not have been possible in previous centuries.

Yet no definition of what a child is, or how many of the women and "children" are enemy combatants.

I believe anyone under 18 is counted as a child, and apparently, Hamas starts training at age 10.

There are also women that are members of Hamas.

So just claiming that women and children are being killed without acknowledging that many of the women and children killed are enemy combatants is dishonest.

Time For Regime Change, In Israel.

Well all know what the problem is.

Jews. 🙂

Half the world's Jewry could easily emigrate and not exist in a self-induced realm of bombings, drone attacks and the odd Jew being butchered here or there when they somehow forget to lock a security gate.

They could easily live peaceful lives in peaceful homes, and the levant would be a peaceful place. They would be welcome to visit on their holidays, no doubt.

Half the world's Jewry choose not to. They rather kill, maim, exterminate and exist with their children regularly running to bombshelters, than live happy peaceful lives, in happy peaceful places. 🙂

With 2,000 million Muslims in the world, it will eventually be their undoing.

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

First post ever that I agree with you on.

Trump wants Syria to handle Hezbollah in Lebanon because he doesn't like the way Israel is handling it.

Vance is not on board with Israel and hopefully he gets elected in 2028 and will cut them off permanently.

You more or less agree with the news about what Trump, Vance and the media says then? Careful what you wish for

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You more or less agree with the news about what Trump, Vance and the media says then? Careful what you wish for

Yeah, no you can't believe everything you hear or read.

Or even believe only half of what you see with your own eyes.