21 hours ago, Effective altruism said:

Are you sure? Worse than:

1) The German occupation of France.

2) The German/Russian invasion of Poland.

3) The German invasion of the USSR and the brutality unleashed against the civilian population?

4) The 75 million deaths during WW2?

5) The Iron Curtain?

I can go on.

So can I.

The Holocaust, with six million dead Jews and nearly as many dead non-Jews, outdistances by light years the foundation of the state of Israel as the worst thing of the 1940s.

Moreover, between 10 million and 20 million Chinese civilians died in WW2, the majority in the 1940s. The Nanjing Massacre (aka Rape of Nanking) stands out as one of the worst atrocities of modern times, not just the 1940s. Another six million Chinese military and civilians died in the civil war between 1946 and 1949.

Israel's struggle to survive since 1948 is harsh by current standards, but in comparison with events of the 1940s, it's no worse than a series of limited conflicts.

Edited June 25Jun 25 by Evil Penevil

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Is that the best ya got, Yag?

you dont deserve more.

Who remembers Ofra Haza?

I literally haven't heard this song since i was a teen and by some weird algorithm it was recommended to me today.

For the life of me I swear I can hear early hints of auto tune 10 years before Cher did it in her song Believe.

I also had no idea she died 26 years ago!!!

4 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Who remembers Ofra Haza?

This was a big hit in Germany during my youth. We all loved it.

2 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

This was a big hit in Germany during my youth. We all loved it.

In Yugoslavia too