10 hours ago, papa al said:

Very little of the money supply is printed money.

pa gets tired of hearing this drivel.

Most fiat money is electronic entries in accounts.

What quibble! You known exactly what the phrase, "printing money", means!

16 hours ago, Yagoda said:

promoted by america haters here

fleas cause itch

And flies breed disease, Keep yours closed!

(One of my father's favourite sayings.)

5 hours ago, Mr Awesome said:

Who is lacking voting rights?

Your naivete is showing. Ever heard of gerrymander? People of colour?

Would have been 4,250,000 but for guns.

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

I was going to ask what kind of idiots even bother to read that apology for a newspaper , I'll not bother

Nothing quite like an open mind is their?

I will say it again - because it, as so often, appears not to have sunk in: I don't much like the Guardian's political stance on many political issues, less it's tiresome "bien pensant" banging of a drum on many issues; but it is something of an International newspaper, with worldwide resources. It's factual reporting is generally as good as that of it's UK peers the Times and The Telegraph. It is important to differentiate between opinion pieces and news reporting - the Telegraph more often chimes with my views in it's opinion columns, but objectively the Guardian's reporting is fair.

Edited June 27Jun 27 by JAG

16 hours ago, Yagoda said:

because its the same stupid america, trump or jew hating spewed by the same droolers.

how wide are the intellectual horizons of those who spew the same nonsense daily.

One might suggest at least as wide if not wider than yours?

At least they don't take the nameof a Bolshevik Secret Police mass murderer...

56 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

If the military were drawn down, if the rich were taxed proportionately, we'd have enough for everybody.

Heffalump in the room moment if I ever saw one!

47 minutes ago, JAG said:

Nothing quite like an open mind is their?

I will say it again - because it, as so often, appears not to have sunk in: I don't much like the Guardian's political stance on many political issues, less it's tiresome "bien pensant" banging of a drum on many issues; but it is something of an International newspaper, with worldwide resources. It's factual reporting is generally as good as that of it's UK peers the Times and The Telegraph. It is important to differentiate between opinion pieces and news reporting - the Telegraph more often chimes with my views in it's opinion columns, but objectively the Guardian's reporting is fair.

As if I care

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

As if I care

Thank you for confirming my point!

6 hours ago, Mr Awesome said:

Who is lacking voting rights?

illegal immigrants basically ,

2 minutes ago, JAG said:

Thank you for confirming my point!

as if I care ! getting the hang of it yet?

Edited June 27Jun 27 by Bday Prang

2 hours ago, JAG said:

One might suggest at least as wide if not wider than yours?

At least they don't take the nameof a Bolshevik Secret Police mass murderer...

as opposed to who? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagoda#:~:text=Jagoda%20is%20a%20gender%2Dneutral,%2C%20and%20Yagoda%20(Russian).

shall we talk about how your user name is the initials of a serial rape murderer? thats quite disturbing

3 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

And flies breed disease, Keep yours closed!

(One of my father's favourite sayings.)

your dad could have made the world a better place by following his own advice

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

shall we talk about how your user name is the initials of a serial rape murderer? thats quite disturbing

Quite simply my initials John Anthony G****. As to who the rape murderer is, I have no idea.

A quick Google search throws up the name Nicholas James Cassotis (NJC), a former Judge Advocate General officer in the United States Navy.

In his case the initials JAG refer to his job, not his name. I understand he murdered his wife. A terrible crime but hardly a serial killing/rape.

I also understand that I am significantly older than him - so no plausible link to initials there.

You really must try harder - one would have thought that an admirer of the Bolshevik Secret Police would have been more constructive in establishing guilt by association - even by the standards of the organisation he led and it's fevered imagination the connection is non existent!

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

as opposed to who? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagoda#:~:text=Jagoda%20is%20a%20gender%2Dneutral,%2C%20and%20Yagoda%20(Russian).

shall we talk about how your user name is the initials of a serial rape murderer? thats quite disturbing

your dad could have made the world a better place by following his own advice

Edited June 27Jun 27 by JAG

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

They're doing their damndest to keep plans for Selective Service one big secret.

1. Who are 'they' ..?

2. 18- y/o males are notified of their obligations.

   It is not even a small secret.

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Your naivete is showing. Ever heard of gerrymander? People of colour?

Every citizen has the right to vote. You are mistaken; gerrymandering is not related to voting rights. Voting is the act of going to polling places and selecting a candidate from the ballot.

After one has registered. There is no comprehensive system to enable PoC and first time voters to register.

Yes, gerrymandering is a different issue. Sorry.

59 minutes ago, JAG said:

Quite simply my initials John Anthony G****. As to who the rape murderer is, I have no idea.

A quick Google search throws up the name Nicholas James Cassotis (NJC), a former Judge Advocate General officer in the United States Navy.

In his case the initials JAG refer to his job, not his name. I understand he murdered his wife. A terrible crime but hardly a serial killing/rape.

I also understand that I am significantly older than him - so no plausible link to initials there.

You really must try harder - one would have thought that an admirer of the Bolshevik Secret Police would have been more constructive in establishing guilt by association - even by the standards of the organisation he led and it's fevered imagination the connection is non existent!

oh, really. why should we believe what your name and initials are? do you believe others? next you will claim you never heard of john albert gardner.

ye in a glass house shouldnt throw stones.

41 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

oh, really. why should we believe what your name and initials are? do you believe others? next you will claim you never heard of john albert gardner.

ye in a glass house shouldnt throw stones.

You have totally lost the plot, you bizarre obsessed fellow!

And you know, I frankly don't give a tuppeny <deleted> what you choose to conclude from my name and/or initials.

Unlike you I do not live in what appears to be a bizarre political twighlight zone!

Nor do I go around suggesting that I have any affiliation with. a murderer, rapist or child molester, however if you do so again I will report you.

Edited June 27Jun 27 by JAG

7 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

You're obviously more accomplished at this than I am. When I Googled what is the greatest proportion of US debt, I couldn't understand it.

There is $38 trillion in US debt. The US has never had that much money nor can it expect to in the future. That means they're using Monopoly money.

$1T of that is spent on the military, about 15%. What is not calculated into military spending is our interest on debts from America's past wars. We're still paying interest on WWII despite the prosperity of the 50s.

Even this chart is not really accurate because of the current NDAA.

Social Security is greater, roughly 22%, or $1.5T. SS past debt is ~$8T!

If either of these were to change that would be by act of Congress. Defunding SS would bring a major rebellion.

Medicare, Medicaid and Affordable Care are a bigger part of US debt. In fact, all those cost $5.7T by year.

In fact, from these figures, it looks like the US kills people at home and abroad.

What's scary is that at least 25% of US debt is held by foreign countries with China's being the biggest slice. It's lucky the US is also China's biggest market otherwise they'd cut us off at the knees by calling in their share. The US would have to default. No bankruptcy for govts. Well, except moral bankruptcy.

Social services are, and should be, the biggest "driver" of US spending. There are a limited number of Yanqs and they deserve our care. If the military were drawn down, if the rich were taxed proportionately, we'd have enough for everybody.

I should point out that greed alone runs current US healthcare & pharma. Many, many poorer countries than ours boast universal healthcare. With States' rights, this would have to be done state-by-state as in Canada. But with 50 states, it would get complicated.

Some might say there would be doctor flight. But honestly where would they go? Everywhere else has universal healthcare!

The source you used for you post is BS.

4/7s of the federal budget are social services.

1/7 is interest on the debt.

1/7 is the military.

1/7 is the rest.

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

There is no comprehensive system to enable PoC and first time voters to register.

It's called head down to the local office and sign up. Is that so hard?

3 hours ago, JAG said:

You have totally lost the plot, you bizarre obsessed fellow!

And you know, I frankly don't give a tuppeny <deleted> what you choose to conclude from my name and/or initials.

Unlike you I do not live in what appears to be a bizarre political twighlight zone!

Nor do I go around suggesting that I have any affiliation with. a murderer, rapist or child molester, however if you do so again I will report you.

There should be more name-calling reportrf. At the least, we can be civil.