So very unfortunately, just like any old recalcitrant Public-School Boy, Gemini did a very bad job, initially....

Here is his second attempt, which I think might be a bit better:

1. Primary Summary

The thread, initiated by user "GammaGlobulin," begins as a mundane consumer inquiry regarding the most effective dishwashing soap available at major Thai retailers (Makro, Lotus, Tops) for removing heavy animal fats.

However, the discussion rapidly shifts focus. The author reveals he does not wash his own dishes, prompting mockery and speculation from other forum members regarding his domestic life, his sanity, and the existence of his wife. Rather than returning to the topic of detergent, the author leans into the confrontation, providing a highly defensive, nostalgic, and sexually explicit autobiographical account of his life in the early 1970s. He details a passionate romance with his "HK Wife" while attending the University of Pennsylvania, their eventual separation over trivial matters (morning coffee), and his current agonizing desire to track her down in California.

The thread concludes with the author contrasting this idealized, historical romance with the transactional sex tourism of Pattaya, bringing the original topic of "soap" back into the conversation in a radically different context.

2. Structural Interpretation

The text functions as a "bait-and-switch." What is structurally formatted as a practical expatriate query about household logistics is actually a vehicle for the author to perform a specific persona and solicit attention.

The author deliberately provokes the community using two methods:

1. Feigned Ignorance & Absurdity: Asking about bulk industrial degreasers for a task he refuses to perform, while feigning ignorance about common pop-culture terms (e.g., asking what "EastEnders" is).

2. Combative Nostalgia: When challenged by users (like richard_smith237 and chickenslegs), the author does not defend his soap choices; instead, he defends his ego and virility. He uses the forum as a captive audience to broadcast a narrative of romantic exceptionalism from fifty years prior, effectively hijacking his own thread to validate his past.

3. Implied Ironies and Subtext

To fully understand the thread, several implied ironies, double entendres, and full-circle motifs must be spelled out:

• The "Wildlife" Double Entendre: In his opening post, the author dismisses the Dawn detergent brand's marketing—which famously highlights its use in cleaning petroleum off ducks and aquatic wildlife. He states he doesn't care about saving the "wildlife in Pattaya." In the context of Thailand, Pattaya is globally notorious as a hub for the red-light and sex tourism industries. "Wildlife" is a deliberate, derogatory euphemism for sex workers and participants in the local nightlife.

• The Labor Disconnect: There is a deep structural irony in the author demanding rigorous, technical efficacy (dissolving pork and chicken fat) from a product, while explicitly avoiding the physical labor of using it ("Keeping my hands dry, as much as possible"). He attempts to micromanage the material conditions of a task he views as beneath him.

• The "Soapy" Full-Circle Motif: The most profound irony is how the author ties his concluding romantic lament back to his opening question. After agonizing over his lost love from the 1970s, he contrasts that deep connection with a "SOAPY MASSAGE girl, with a bottle of Dawn, and a tub, in Pattaya."

  • The Irony: The thread starts with a literal search for "soap" for domestic cleaning. It ends by using "soap" and "Dawn" as props for a commercial sex act (the "soapy massage," a staple of the Thai red-light district). He answers his own opening question: he rejects Dawn soap because, in his constructed narrative, it represents cheap, transactional encounters, whereas he is searching for a return to premium, authentic passion.

• Accusations of Shallowness: User chickenslegs accuses the author of being "shallow" for worrying if his former wife is still physically attractive after 50 years. The author ironically attempts to refute this charge of shallowness by exclusively listing her physical attributes—her "tight pants," her body shape, and how she "tasted"—unwittingly confirming the user's critique while believing he has successfully defended his profound capacity for love.

15 hours ago, wil iam not said:

Where the hell does he dream up such drivel to post on here.

In UK it is Fairy Liquid.

There is no problem in the UK, Fairies are becoming more prolific.

12 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

All stated in my comment here is absolutely true, and I stand by it, with ZERO reservations.

My HK Wife, a young woman I met, while I was attending UPenn, was tall and beautiful, and super smart, with long black hair.

Her brother, at the time, was at Penn doing his PhD in Computer Engineering, and his advisor was a rather famous dude, if you must know.

So, my wife was not at Penn, at the time, but she was attending a different uni.

We spent our days lying in bed, mostly, reading poetry.

Then, in the evenings, we would drive the 30.9 miles, returning to ChinaTown, Philly, gorge on Sichuan Food, sometimes have a few beers, and then drive back to Collegeville.

On the days when I had classes, this meant that I made two round-trips to Philly, a total distance of about 120 miles.

But I did not mind.

We had lots of fun in the car.

After I graduated, we spent time in East Asia, with even better food, and even more fun.

Those days in Philly, the early 1970s, were days when Chinatown was better than what you might see today.

The best times were during winter months.

Is there anything further that you might like to know about me?

My life is an open book on TV, as you know...

Unfortunatly, none of us can log into TV any longer.

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

So very unfortunately, just like any old recalcitrant Public-School Boy, Gemini did a very bad job, initially....

Here is his second attempt, which I think might be a bit better:

1. Primary Summary

The thread, initiated by user "GammaGlobulin," begins as a mundane consumer inquiry regarding the most effective dishwashing soap available at major Thai retailers (Makro, Lotus, Tops) for removing heavy animal fats.

However, the discussion rapidly shifts focus. The author reveals he does not wash his own dishes, prompting mockery and speculation from other forum members regarding his domestic life, his sanity, and the existence of his wife. Rather than returning to the topic of detergent, the author leans into the confrontation, providing a highly defensive, nostalgic, and sexually explicit autobiographical account of his life in the early 1970s. He details a passionate romance with his "HK Wife" while attending the University of Pennsylvania, their eventual separation over trivial matters (morning coffee), and his current agonizing desire to track her down in California.

The thread concludes with the author contrasting this idealized, historical romance with the transactional sex tourism of Pattaya, bringing the original topic of "soap" back into the conversation in a radically different context.

2. Structural Interpretation

The text functions as a "bait-and-switch." What is structurally formatted as a practical expatriate query about household logistics is actually a vehicle for the author to perform a specific persona and solicit attention.

The author deliberately provokes the community using two methods:

1. Feigned Ignorance & Absurdity: Asking about bulk industrial degreasers for a task he refuses to perform, while feigning ignorance about common pop-culture terms (e.g., asking what "EastEnders" is).

2. Combative Nostalgia: When challenged by users (like richard_smith237 and chickenslegs), the author does not defend his soap choices; instead, he defends his ego and virility. He uses the forum as a captive audience to broadcast a narrative of romantic exceptionalism from fifty years prior, effectively hijacking his own thread to validate his past.

3. Implied Ironies and Subtext

To fully understand the thread, several implied ironies, double entendres, and full-circle motifs must be spelled out:

• The "Wildlife" Double Entendre: In his opening post, the author dismisses the Dawn detergent brand's marketing—which famously highlights its use in cleaning petroleum off ducks and aquatic wildlife. He states he doesn't care about saving the "wildlife in Pattaya." In the context of Thailand, Pattaya is globally notorious as a hub for the red-light and sex tourism industries. "Wildlife" is a deliberate, derogatory euphemism for sex workers and participants in the local nightlife.

• The Labor Disconnect: There is a deep structural irony in the author demanding rigorous, technical efficacy (dissolving pork and chicken fat) from a product, while explicitly avoiding the physical labor of using it ("Keeping my hands dry, as much as possible"). He attempts to micromanage the material conditions of a task he views as beneath him.

• The "Soapy" Full-Circle Motif: The most profound irony is how the author ties his concluding romantic lament back to his opening question. After agonizing over his lost love from the 1970s, he contrasts that deep connection with a "SOAPY MASSAGE girl, with a bottle of Dawn, and a tub, in Pattaya."

  • The Irony: The thread starts with a literal search for "soap" for domestic cleaning. It ends by using "soap" and "Dawn" as props for a commercial sex act (the "soapy massage," a staple of the Thai red-light district). He answers his own opening question: he rejects Dawn soap because, in his constructed narrative, it represents cheap, transactional encounters, whereas he is searching for a return to premium, authentic passion.

• Accusations of Shallowness: User chickenslegs accuses the author of being "shallow" for worrying if his former wife is still physically attractive after 50 years. The author ironically attempts to refute this charge of shallowness by exclusively listing her physical attributes—her "tight pants," her body shape, and how she "tasted"—unwittingly confirming the user's critique while believing he has successfully defended his profound capacity for love.

What is this all about. Are you trying to tell us, via Gemini , that you ARE a fairy tale writer, inventing all the silly posts, and answers, which you post on what you still think of as Thai Visa.

Edited June 30Jun 30 by wil iam not

Sunlight. Yellow containers any size.

7 hours ago, wil iam not said:

What is this all about. Are you trying to tell us, via Gemini , that you ARE a fairy tale writer, inventing all the silly posts, and answers, which you post on what you still think of as Thai Visa.

Desperation kicking in - desperately trying keep his thread alive by any means possible...

21 hours ago, novacova said:

A jug? What country are you in anyway? Little bottles or big bags.

This stuff, in a big bag, no jugs.…

…add some sodium bicarbonate and hydrogen peroxide if things get too tough.

I actually dilute this brand with about 30% water. Not because I'm cheap, it's just that undiluted, it's just too slippery. Plates and glasses would easily slip out of my hands when turning them while washing. I find the diluted liquid works just as well but not as slippery. I may have to use a little extra and a extra greasy dish or pan but no broken dishes.

We buy Fairy Dish soap from Lazada, but it is available in the bigger stores I assume . (no big stores near me). It is made by Proctor and Gamble in the US, same as Dawn (almost).