4 hours ago, CharlieH said:

In England, sex education is introduced gradually rather than all at once.

• Ages 4–11 (Primary school): Children receive Relationships Education and Health Education. This covers topics such as friendships, families, personal boundaries, respect, online safety, body parts, and puberty. Reproduction is also taught as part of the science curriculum. Primary schools may teach sex education, but it is not compulsory beyond the science curriculum.

• Ages 9–11 (Years 5–6): Most schools introduce puberty and may cover basic sex education in an age-appropriate way. Under the revised guidance coming into force from September 2026, sex education should not be taught before Year 5 (age 9–10).

• Ages 11–16 (Secondary school): Relationships and Sex Education (RSE) is compulsory. Topics include:

  • Sexual relationships

  • Consent

  • Contraception

  • Sexually transmitted infections (STIs)

  • Pregnancy

  • Sexual orientation

  • Online safety, including pornography

  • Healthy and unhealthy relationships

Parents in England can withdraw their child from the non-statutory sex education elements in primary school and, in secondary school, up to three terms before the child turns 16. They cannot withdraw a child from the science curriculum or from compulsory Relationships Education.

The curriculum differs slightly in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, but all UK nations introduce relationship education in primary school and more detailed sex education during secondary school.

Way, way, way not good enough! The girls will be preggers by then.

22 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Way, way, way not good enough! The girls will be preggers by then.

only if they are groomed by barbarians

10 hours ago, Mr Awesome said:

Is it more bankrupt that in Thailand, families send their daughters to Pattaya to engage in prostitution with older Western men just to cover basic expenses due to the lack of a social safety net? Or is it more bankrupt then Thai men fathering children and then abandon them without taking responsibility for their support?

Ok, this comment is upside-down, back to front and incorrect.

Firstly, it's the deadbeat fathers abandoning the mother of his newborn child, now the mothers parents who she lives with must find money for nappies and baby food for this additional occupant.

Thailand does not provide welfare or Social Security support, to top it off, the Thai government do not garnish the wages of the deadbeat fathers.

You'd find if the west provided zero support we'd see the same number of sex workers.

Thai families don't willy nilly send their daughters to work in Pattaya, Thai's are proud people.

Sadly a few families have no choice, it's a cruel wo rld.

12 hours ago, scorecard said:

You're assuming wy too mich. Not appreciated.

Well it certainly wouldn't be appreciated by somebody who has lost the art of parenting. I know some folks who are very strict with their kids and they're absolutely exemplary human beings.

I also know some folks that are very lenient with their kids and they are usually out of control.

10 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Birth control instruction should be a strong part of sex ed.

Birth control and disease prevention should form the backbone of sex education, However, in view of a changing demographic it is now necessary to teach those from certain cultures, now living in the west, the christian concept of "consent" or more importantly what the lack of it means . There is really no need to explain the mechanics of the act itself, after all, every other animal on the planet manages ok..

8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Ok, this comment is upside-down, back to front and incorrect.

Firstly, it's the deadbeat fathers abandoning the mother of his newborn child, now the mothers parents who she lives with must find money for nappies and baby food for this additional occupant.

Thailand does not provide welfare or Social Security support, to top it off, the Thai government do not garnish the wages of the deadbeat fathers.

You'd find if the west provided zero support we'd see the same number of sex workers.

Thai families don't willy nilly send their daughters to work in Pattaya, Thai's are proud people.

Sadly a few families have no choice, it's a cruel wo rld.

Personally i would have no problem with an increase of sex workers in the uk especially if it was accompanied by a reduction in benefits and corresponding increase in the state pension ( for those who really qualify)

19 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

So what do we do with the pretty birds and the bees who are eager to sting them? By the time they’re teenagers, many girls are out of control even with a solid family.

You can only watch, if you are a Western man — even that nature has already set a limit, different cultures set different cultural rules about when a young female is ready — and if you are a mature grownup, it should be a bit discrete, so you are not considered a paedophile watching underage girls.

However, I agree in that many young — also too young — girl can look attractive; and even seem be very interested in close sexual encounters. From nature it's scientifically considered healthy that men are — also mature — interested young females, but our various cultures make a difference. If mutual aged youngsters are interested in each other, it's often acceptable, while if the man is mature, is merely kind of "Lolita syndrome" — and that is normally not acceptable.

In Europe age of consent is 14 years in common central parts — e.g., Germany, Italy, Austria, Portugal — and the Balkans. 15 years in 12 countries, including Denmark and France, and 16 years in remaining areas, like Spain, Netherlands, United Kingdom and Belgium. However, a few states have stricter rules with 17 and 18 years: Ireland, Cyprus, Turkey and Vatican City.

Først i slutningen af 2015 ændredes den seksuelle lavalder fra 13 år til 16 år i Spanien. Japan ændrede aldersgrænsen så sent som i 2023 fra 13 år til 16 år, men har stadig en regel om unge: For at forhindre kriminalisering af naturlige teenageforhold indeholder loven en "close-in-age"-klausul. Seksuel aktivitet mellem mindreårige i alderen 13 til 15 år er fritaget for retsforfølgning, så længe aldersforskellen mellem partnerne er mindre end 5 år.

And yes, in Thailand it is common to dress up junior and pre-teeen girls as mature ladies for dance events in temples — in my Scandinavian home country we would dress up similar aged young girls like ladies when sending them in dance school, which was common middle class education when I was a child; so, kind of same-same but different — I don't fancy it, the temple dance with small girls looking like mature ladies, nor did I like being sent to dance school as child.

However, it seems to me like the kids and teens today act more mature than when I was young — it was back in the happy hippie 1960s with lots of women's liberation, the pill and before HIV — I remember them very young ladies as extremely interested in us males, especially us musicians; quite often they even succeeded...😎

16 hours ago, simon43 said:

These 2 girls were a real challenge! Every evening, they would go out to 'play' with the teen boys with their motorbikes in the nearby woods. I knew this would end 'badly', so I insisted that they were home and in their room by 9.30pm.

Close encounter can also happen during daytime — when I was teen, girls would instead show up early mornings, when permitted out from home...

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well it certainly wouldn't be appreciated by somebody who has lost the art of parenting. I know some folks who are very strict with their kids and they're absolutely exemplary human beings.

I also know some folks that are very lenient with their kids and they are usually out of control.

No guarantees! Having kids is like going to Las Vegas! Sometimes you get a good hand.

We were fearsomely strict with all three. Two ~50s are solid. Youngest, now 27, was so out of control by 14 that we got her her own condo so we had some peace in our house. Still finding herself today.

Edited yesterday at 05:11 AM1 day by unblocktheplanet
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1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

Personally i would have no problem with an increase of sex workers in the uk especially if it was accompanied by a reduction in benefits and corresponding increase in the state pension ( for those who really qualify)

Check your local phone box! Does this still happen? Are there still phone boxes?

11 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

17 hours ago, TimBKK said:

In Thailand its the influence of tiktok, youtube and yt shorts, facebook etc. Essentially, social media. I have come to believe that it is poison for a developing mind and more so for girls. I hope Thailand bans social media for kids soon, like in Australia and other countries. Keeps your kids off that s***.

Thailandtravel guides

What about porn?

AI: By age nine, 10% had seen pornography, 27% had seen it by age 11 and half of children who had seen pornography had seen it by age 13. 79% had encountered violent pornography before the age of 18.

Banning SoMe won't make a huge change — the information flow, or lack of same, worked quite well when I was teen, ages before Internet and anybody thought about online SoMe — the youngsters will just find other sources; it might even make the stuff more interesting when banned...😉

32 minutes ago, khunPer said:

You can only watch, if you are a Western man — even that nature has already set a limit, different cultures set different cultural rules about when a young female is ready — and if you are a mature grownup, it should be a bit discrete, so you are not considered a paedophile watching underage girls.

However, I agree in that many young — also too young — girl can look attractive; and even seem be very interested in close sexual encounters. From nature it's scientifically considered healthy that men are — also mature — interested young females, but our various cultures make a difference. If mutual aged youngsters are interested in each other, it's often acceptable, while if the man is mature, is merely kind of "Lolita syndrome" — and that is normally not acceptable.

In Europe age of consent is 14 years in common central parts — e.g., Germany, Italy, Austria, Portugal — and the Balkans. 15 years in 12 countries, including Denmark and France, and 16 years in remaining areas, like Spain, Netherlands, United Kingdom and Belgium. However, a few states have stricter rules with 17 and 18 years: Ireland, Cyprus, Turkey and Vatican City.

Først i slutningen af 2015 ændredes den seksuelle lavalder fra 13 år til 16 år i Spanien. Japan ændrede aldersgrænsen så sent som i 2023 fra 13 år til 16 år, men har stadig en regel om unge: For at forhindre kriminalisering af naturlige teenageforhold indeholder loven en "close-in-age"-klausul. Seksuel aktivitet mellem mindreårige i alderen 13 til 15 år er fritaget for retsforfølgning, så længe aldersforskellen mellem partnerne er mindre end 5 år.

And yes, in Thailand it is common to dress up junior and pre-teeen girls as mature ladies for dance events in temples — in my Scandinavian home country we would dress up similar aged young girls like ladies when sending them in dance school, which was common middle class education when I was a child; so, kind of same-same but different — I don't fancy it, the temple dance with small girls looking like mature ladies, nor did I like being sent to dance school as child.

However, it seems to me like the kids and teens today act more mature than when I was young — it was back in the happy hippie 1960s with lots of women's liberation, the pill and before HIV — I remember them very young ladies as extremely interested in us males, especially us musicians; quite often they even succeeded...😎

Ah, you must come from Christiania! Danish girls are achingly beautiful! Those age limits are so arbitrary, in some cases made by morals police. I am a hebephile. That doesn't mean I act on it. I've just always liked teenage girls, and still do.

39 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Først i slutningen af 2015 ændredes den seksuelle lavalder fra 13 år til 16 år i Spanien. Japan ændrede aldersgrænsen så sent som i 2023 fra 13 år til 16 år, men har stadig en regel om unge: For at forhindre kriminalisering af naturlige teenageforhold indeholder loven en "close-in-age"-klausul. Seksuel aktivitet mellem mindreårige i alderen 13 til 15 år er fritaget for retsforfølgning, så længe aldersforskellen mellem partnerne er mindre end 5 år.

Sorry, should be in English:

Only as late of 2015 the age of consent changed from 13 years to 16 years in Spain. Japan changed as late as 2023 from 13 years to 16 years, but still has a rule about youngsters: To prevent the criminalization of natural teenage relationships, the law features a "close-in-age" clause. Peer-to-peer sexual activity between minors aged 13 to 15 is exempt from prosecution as long as the age gap between partners is less than 5 years.

I often use a translator to check if my non native English makes sense; unfortunately I copy-pated the Danish translation.

14 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Banning SoMe won't make a huge change — the information flow, or lack of same, worked quite well when I was teen, ages before Internet and anybody thought about online SoMe — the youngsters will just find other sources; it might even make the stuff more interesting when banned...😉

I don’t quite understand information flow point but suffice to say that we will likely have to agree to disagree, at least in a broad sense. There is an ever increasing body of research that in my opinion points to a public health crisis for kids because of their ever increasing use of social media.

Banning is not a perfect solution and of course there are ways around it but we (collective “we”) have to start somewhere.

12 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Way, way, way not good enough! The girls will be preggers by then.

True, and everywhere else if they didn't pay attention to what they learned, along with having a father present in the house who was close to them, so they wouldn't be out looking for Mr. Perfect who doesn't exist.

14 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Sorry, should be in English:

Only as late of 2015 the age of consent changed from 13 years to 16 years in Spain. Japan changed as late as 2023 from 13 years to 16 years, but still has a rule about youngsters: To prevent the criminalization of natural teenage relationships, the law features a "close-in-age" clause. Peer-to-peer sexual activity between minors aged 13 to 15 is exempt from prosecution as long as the age gap between partners is less than 5 years.

I often use a translator to check if my non native English makes sense; unfortunately I copy-pated the Danish translation.

Some countries law makers have pedo minds if they allow sexual relationships for any girls under age 17. Their brains aren't even developed for at least 5 more years plus, and decisions made that young usually end up with life changing consequences. Of course there are "men" who don't think twice about victimizing the naive all over the world.

Prosecuting two 13-15 year olds wouldn't be right as both are naive and wild minded. How would you stop such behavior without that education and parent's being present?

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well it certainly wouldn't be appreciated by somebody who has lost the art of parenting. I know some folks who are very strict with their kids and they're absolutely exemplary human beings.

I also know some folks that are very lenient with their kids and they are usually out of control.

There has to be a balance. Too extreme either way has them doing what their peers are doing instead of listening to good advice. You keep a girl away from boys too long and they'll likely go wild when they're exposed to them. Limiting together and alone time while allowing socializing is the only way. Still no guarantees as it only takes teens a few minutes to complete the act what could be 18 years of parenthood.

23 minutes ago, TimBKK said:

I don’t quite understand information flow point but suffice to say that we will likely have to agree to disagree, at least in a broad sense. There is an ever increasing body of research that in my opinion points to a public health crisis for kids because of their ever increasing use of social media.

Banning is not a perfect solution and of course there are ways around it but we (collective “we”) have to start somewhere.

While I broadly agree with you, that genie's out of the bottle. Unless we actually ban social media or ban cellphones, nothing will be effective. That will never happen because SoMe is owned by the 1%.

Kids aren't stupid. They will always find a way around any roadblock.

10 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Ok, this comment is upside-down, back to front and incorrect.

Firstly, it's the deadbeat fathers abandoning the mother of his newborn child, now the mothers parents who she lives with must find money for nappies and baby food for this additional occupant.

Thailand does not provide welfare or Social Security support, to top it off, the Thai government do not garnish the wages of the deadbeat fathers.

You'd find if the west provided zero support we'd see the same number of sex workers.

Thai families don't willy nilly send their daughters to work in Pattaya, Thai's are proud people.

Sadly a few families have no choice, it's a cruel wo rld.

Some Thais are proud people, while many do send their daughters out to sell themselves. Many links will show this, as i did in an earlier topic when someone disputed it happens so much. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-11-13-mn-62017-story.html

It is deadbeat fathers here that are part of the problem, but in the west they'll be paying that support. If that support wasn't coming, they wouldn't be sending their daughters out as the government has programs that help families in need. Sex workers are higher in populated countries, but higher rates are in poor countries, and the excuse some parents give is THEY need that money.

It is also absent fathers why many girls enter the trade, with no one showing them what a fathers love means, they'll go looking for it, along with the girls who are molested in the homes, which is a major reason many become prostitutes....

A woman approached a Buddhist monk and said:

“When I was 12, my parents, who were very poor, sold me to a brothel

and I have had to do this work ever since.

I must beg your forgiveness for my sin.”

The monk replied:

“There is no need to beg forgiveness from me.

It is I and the world who should beg your forgiveness,

for we have not done enough to protect you.

Please forgive me and the world for having failed to protect you

in the first place.”

Mettanando Bhikkhu

Thai Buddhist monk.

Edited yesterday at 05:59 AM1 day by fredwiggy

7 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Ah, you must come from Christiania! Danish girls are achingly beautiful! Those age limits are so arbitrary, in some cases made by morals police. I am a hebephile. That doesn't mean I act on it. I've just always liked teenage girls, and still do.

Thanks for your reply. And no, I'm not from Christiania — that place arose in 1971 after my teen years — I'm a teen from 'Summer of 69'...😎

And yes, I agree in 'made by morals police' — actually my point with mentioning culture — also the difference between hebephile and more legal ephebophile is kind of floating, depending of both the look and expressions of the young ladies. Many Thai girls look much younger, than their physical age, while numerous Western girls look more mature; even like a grownup house wife, but still fairly young teen.

Time has changed — or rather all time things are changing — which also was my point. Back in time — relative long time ago — age of consent was 12 years in Britain, raised to 13 years in 1875. It would be out of Western mind today to think of relationship with so young women, even that they at this age is more mature now than back then. Science quote: «In the 19th century, the average age for girls to have their first period was around 17 years. Today, the average age has fallen to around 13 years. This significant decline is explained, among other things, by better living conditions, healthier nutrition, fewer infections, and more recently, hormone-disrupting substances in the environment.» In a way worth thinking about...🤔

According to science it's a healthy signal that men — also mature and elder men — is interested in young women; i.e., girls that are ready as a woman. So, being hebephile and ephebophile —interested in very young and young ladies — is actually scientifically correct, but cultural wrong. Our lifestyle with women's liberalization and education also makes the cultural limits in place — our culture try to prevent teenage pregnancies, which makes good sense compared to today's lifestyle — however, our male genes and lusts are mainly still stock in homo sapiens version 1.0...😍

22 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

True, and everywhere else if they didn't pay attention to what they learned, along with having a father present in the house who was close to them, so they wouldn't be out looking for Mr. Perfect who doesn't exist.

Wait! My wife found Mr Perfect! (hehe)

17 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Some countries law makers have pedo minds if they allow sexual relationships for any girls under age 17. Their brains aren't even developed for at least 5 more years plus, and decisions made that young usually end up with life changing consequences. Of course there are "men" who don't think twice about victimizing the naive all over the world.

Prosecuting two 13-15 year olds wouldn't be right as both are naive and wild minded. How would you stop such behavior without that education and parent's being present?

When it gets wet and when it gets hard, stopping it is like trying to stop Niagara Falls! 17 is some kind of magic number?

27 minutes ago, TimBKK said:

I don’t quite understand information flow point but suffice to say that we will likely have to agree to disagree, at least in a broad sense. There is an ever increasing body of research that in my opinion points to a public health crisis for kids because of their ever increasing use of social media.

Banning is not a perfect solution and of course there are ways around it but we (collective “we”) have to start somewhere.

Thanks for your reply and being in disagree.

My point is not about use of Internet and SoMe — and time spend on those media — it was purely about the search of sexual information; where you mentioned pornography. The youngsters will find information some other places, just like we did before the Internet was invented.

3 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

When it gets wet and when it gets hard, stopping it is like trying to stop Niagara Falls! 17 is some kind of magic number?

17 is actually still too young to engage in sex, although trying to stop it is near impossible. The world is over populated because of the millions of young girls having sex, and those children are in homes without basic necessities a lot of the time, along with Thailand itself having up to 40% of children raised by grandmas, because the girls walked away from responsibility.

8 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Wait! My wife found Mr Perfect! (hehe)

For your sake I hope it's you.

Edited yesterday at 06:04 AM1 day by fredwiggy

13 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

the only reason anybody watch was hoping to see what these teens actually did to get pregnant

Seriously? If those teens were pregnant on one of these shows, I'm 100% sure it wasn't from IVF.

45 minutes ago, khunPer said:

eer-to-peer sexual activity between minors aged 13 to 15 is exempt from prosecution as long as the age gap between partners is less than 5 years.

So it is OK for an 18 year old boy to bonk a 13 year old girl? Come off it.

I worked in Denmark many many years ago and had a 15 year old girlfriend. When we got the ferry back to UK, must I pull it out within the three mile coastal limit?

2 hours ago, khunPer said:

Thanks for your reply and being in disagree.

My point is not about use of Internet and SoMe — and time spend on those media — it was purely about the search of sexual information; where you mentioned pornography. The youngsters will find information some other places, just like we did before the Internet was invented.

Hustler aso? Didn't you look at your father's girlie magazines when you were a kid? They're more <direct> these days.

31 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Hustler aso? Didn't you look at your father's girlie magazines when you were a kid? They're more <direct> these days.

I was teen from mid 1960s and kid before that time. Don’t forget that pornography first became legally and socially free in 1969, and that was in my native home country Denmark, which was the first country in the world to fully legalize pornography. My father — of course — didn't have that kind of stuff.

But there were other and legal ways to watch photos of naked people. One was nudist magazines — which were legal and available in many news-stands — actually with a number of naked underage girls. I presume that kind of stuff is banned today. Another way — and more pornographic, actually sometimes quite hot stuff — was art; i.e., mainly drawings. Art was — and probably still is — a legal way to visually show fantasies of many levels.

Some so-called French Postcards — little old-fashioned erotic pocket-sized cards featuring nude or semi-nude women, sometimes also real pornography — was also in circulation.

Undercover 8mm pornographic B/W film also circulated, and was shown at young folk's parties, especially in middle- or upper-class levels. My rock band in middle school was hired to play at some of these parties. Originals were filmed at 16mm and it was a huge undercover industry in the 1950s and earlier, until 1969, when it became legalized. Some of the models were minors — i.e., under 18 years old — I had a girlfriend that made (good) extra money in that industry.

Some of my middle school mates had illegal magazines — I think they could be bought under the counter in many newspaper shops — which was circulated. So did stories among pals in middle school, some even written down. The latter was a bit awkward when a teacher found it — especially if a female teacher — I remember a teacher from a parallel class coming to our classroom to ask if this was a script from one of us, and then read it out loud. Of course, nobody said "yes, it's mine". It however sounded like being written experience by a girl. We all had red-bloused faces from the content, probably unheard stuff for most of the class, at least for me at that time...🫢

But back then — in the 1960s — we boys didn't need to know that much, as both the Danish and Swedish girls seemed to know all what was necessary, and they didn't mind to share their knowledge physically with us boys. Only God knows from where they got their knowledge...🤔 At that time you didn't ask about age — and didn't have to sign a written contract of consent, which seems to be needed to be on a safe side now on days...😄 — things just happened, and everybody seemed happy enough with it.

But 1969 changed all — books, porn magazines, posters, live show clubs — a few years later newspapers would have a daily nude teen photography, and a weekly family-magazine had them in colours, mainly girls between 15 and 18 years old — unthinkable and illegal today — however, it did happen that girl in the pictures sometimes was little older.

Edited yesterday at 09:59 AM1 day by khunPer
Ops, little grammar corrections.

On 7/6/2026 at 3:39 PM, Mr Awesome said:

Is it more bankrupt that in Thailand, families send their daughters to Pattaya to engage in prostitution with older Western men just to cover basic expenses due to the lack of a social safety net?

.......lack of guilt, morals, and plenty of greed.

Also, payback for bringing them into the world.

Ain't Thai culture great?

On 7/6/2026 at 3:39 PM, Mr Awesome said:

Or is it more bankrupt then Thai men fathering children and then abandon them without taking responsibility for their support?

Right before the mothers abandon them too.