50 minutes ago, khunPer said:

I was teen from mid 1960s and kid before that time. Don’t forget that pornography first became legally and socially free in 1969, and that was in my native home country Denmark, which was the first country in the world to fully legalize pornography. My father — of course — didn't have that kind of stuff.

But there were other and legal ways to watch photos of naked people. One was nudist magazines — which were legal and available in many news-stands — actually with a number of naked underage girls. I presume that kind of stuff is banned today. Another way — and more pornographic, actually sometimes quite hot stuff — was art; i.e., mainly drawings. Art was — and probably still is — a legal way to visually show fantasies of many levels.

Some so-called French Postcards — little old-fashioned erotic pocket-sized cards featuring nude or semi-nude women, sometimes also real pornography — was also in circulation.

Undercover 8mm pornographic B/W film also circulated, and was shown at young folk's parties, especially in middle- or upper-class levels. My rock band in middle school was hired to play at some of these parties. Originals were filmed at 16mm and it was a huge undercover industry in the 1950s and earlier, until 1969, when it became legalized. Some of the models were minors — i.e., under 18 years old — I had a girlfriend that made (good) extra money in that industry.

Some of my middle school mates had illegal magazines — I think they could be bought under the counter in many newspaper shops — which was circulated. So did stories among pals in middle school, some even written down. The latter was a bit awkward when a teacher found it — especially if a female teacher — I remember a teacher from a parallel class coming to our classroom to ask if this was a script from one of us, and then read it out loud. Of course, nobody said "yes, it's mine". It however sounded like being written experience by a girl. We all had red-bloused faces from the content, probably unheard stuff for most of the class, at least for me at that time...🫢

But back then — in the 1960s — we boys didn't need to know that much, as both the Danish and Swedish girls seemed to know all what was necessary, and they didn't mind to share their knowledge physically with us boys. Only God knows from where they got their knowledge...🤔 At that time you didn't ask about age — and didn't have to sign a written contract of consent, which seems to be needed to be on a safe side now on days...😄 — things just happened, and everybody seemed happy enough with it.

But 1969 changed all — books, porn magazines, posters, live show clubs — a few years later newspapers would have a daily nude teen photography, and a weekly family-magazine had them in colours, mainly girls between 15 and 18 years old — unthinkable and illegal today — however, it did happen that girl in the pictures sometimes was little older.

I believe Denmark was the first to legalise pornography (1969) was the last country to ban kiddie porn (2005). In the porn shops in Copenhagen, there were magazines (& films?) of babies being abused and, of course, teens (of both sexes). The same material was available on DVD in the backrooms of Pantip Plaza.

I was not exactly young when I first visited but fishing was great!

Remember those X-Ray Spex advertised in comic books. They didn't work.

Zuckerberg is selling AI glasses marketed to do the same.

Off topic. To walk into any department store, one first has to pass through the cosmetics section with the cloying reek of perfumes. (I like the way girls smell!)

I noticed this trip how many of the creams and lotion bottles are shaped like dildos! Check it out, even with that distinctive curve. The person who markets one that vibrates too is going to make a killing!

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I believe Denmark was the first to legalise pornography (1969) was the last country to ban kiddie porn (2005). In the porn shops in Copenhagen, there were magazines (& films?) of babies being abused and, of course, teens (of both sexes). The same material was available on DVD in the backrooms of Pantip Plaza.

I was not exactly young when I first visited but fishing was great!

Likely, I didn't visit those shops; so, I have no idea.

Much said here concerning this subject. As I have done before, I try to boil it down to "essentials" once more.

We have a short memory. In the 14th century, a girl at 12 was "ready to get married": Usually to a bloke much older than her. Peasants, Aristocrats, never mind.

Measured by todays "moral standarts" those guys were all "child molesters". Today, Gary Glitter would walk among us as a free man as he has done nothing wrong, him living in his age.

The old Greeks (the cradle of democracy), if wealthy enough, had their underaged playmates (females as well as males). Anal sex not an invention of "modern times".

Surely, "times are changing". Isen't it ? And we have a short memory.

1 hour ago, swissie said:

Much said here concerning this subject. As I have done before, I try to boil it down to "essentials" once more.

We have a short memory. In the 14th century, a girl at 12 was "ready to get married": Usually to a bloke much older than her. Peasants, Aristocrats, never mind.

Measured by todays "moral standarts" those guys were all "child molesters". Today, Gary Glitter would walk among us as a free man as he has done nothing wrong, him living in his age.

The old Greeks (the cradle of democracy), if wealthy enough, had their underaged playmates (females as well as males). Anal sex not an invention of "modern times".

Surely, "times are changing". Isen't it ? And we have a short memory.

In the 14th century, individuals were executed by burning at the stake for heresy, witchcraft, and blasphemy. In modern times, it is unacceptable for older men to marry 12-year-old girls, except in primitive parts of the world. What compels you to justify or defend child abuse?

On 7/7/2026 at 6:49 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

I believe Denmark was the first to legalise pornography (1969) was the last country to ban kiddie porn (2005).

You are half right. Denmark was indeed the first country in the world to make pornography legal in 1969, but in 1980 the Danish Parliament banned the sales, distribution and possession of child porn*graphy.

To clear up some frequently misunderstood points: It was NEVER legal in Denmark for adults to have sex with children under 18 or to film sex acts involving children. The law which legalized porn set 18 as the minimum age for performers in pornographic films, photos or live entertainment.

The law allowed Danish companies such as Color Climax Corporation to buy in, then mass distribute cp. However, Color Climax never filmed cp in Denmark or any other country. It only bought such films and still images from amateur and pro photographers.

21 hours ago, temuFarang said:

In the 14th century, individuals were executed by burning at the stake for heresy, witchcraft, and blasphemy. In modern times, it is unacceptable for older men to marry 12-year-old girls, except in primitive parts of the world. What compels you to justify or defend child abuse?

What makes you think I justify child abuse, I have merely stated that "morals" are not written in stone and change over time. Like "fashion" from Paris constantly change. Althoug "morals" change slower than Paris fashion.

What will the "morals" be 50 years from now? "Mob rule" with blood in the streets? Or the Pope in Rome ruling the world (again)?

Eighter way, the people that will live in this time, will accept those morals as perfectly normal, reflecting "the spirit of our time". Just like we do now and our ancestors did in the 14ient century. Panta rey = everything flows. Including morals.

At this point, I would like to add an example of "changing morals". This time not long ago.

I remember in the early 60ties a favorite weekend occupation was to lure homosexuals into a trap just to beat them up and take their money.

Such events diden't even make it into local newspapers. Morally accepted because "homos" were considered as deviants, deserving what they got. No outrage.

Impossible today. Just to show how "morals" can change. Longer term or (sometimes) shorter term.

11 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

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The law allowed Danish companies such as Color Climax Corporation to buy in, then mass distribute cp. However, Color Climax never filmed cp in Denmark or any other country. It only bought such films and still images from amateur and pro photographers.

Oh well, that's OK then

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4 hours ago, simon43 said:

Oh well, that's OK then

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I absolutely don't think it is OK; nor is it what I wrote. I mentioned it clear up the misconception some people have that it had once been legal to film child porn*graphy in Denmark.

10 hours ago, swissie said:

At this point, I would like to add an example of "changing morals". This time not long ago.

I remember in the early 60ties a favorite weekend occupation was to lure homosexuals into a trap just to beat them up and take their money.

Such events diden't even make it into local newspapers. Morally accepted because "homos" were considered as deviants, deserving what they got. No outrage.

Impossible today. Just to show how "morals" can change. Longer term or (sometimes) shorter term.

Lynching for white folks! What a terrible story!

5 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

I absolutely don't think it is OK; nor is it what I wrote. I mentioned it clear up the misconception some people have that it had once been legal to film child porn*graphy in Denmark.

Indeed, I was also under the impression that producing cp was legal in Denmark. I think child abuse has always occurred and is even represented in art such as the mosaics of Herculaneum.

Children are demigods in the modern age, little princes and princesses. That view makes child sex even more repugnant to our modern sensibilities.

I was an activist on many world issues in the 60s. Somehow I got on this list where I would get a one page, b/w, adds for pornography in the mail from Scandinavia. Kiddieporn was mixed right in there with vanilla, including gay sex. I saved them for awhile just because they were so 'foreign' (not because of any moral outrage). I suppose their possession would make me a criminal today!

On 7/6/2026 at 4:30 PM, Gandtee said:

Back in the day the kids were using their parents as role models. The girls copying their mums and the boys their dads. Yes, some were slightly different and most grew out of it. But I don't thing parents encouraged their children to go outside the norm. Now the kids are encouraged by what they see on the internet and what they are taught at school. Nothing wrong with being homosexual providing you keep it in your private life. Now it seems many gays want to flaunt it and shout, 'Look at me. I'm gay.' Going on to transexual and misidentifying is, in my opinion, a different kettle of fish. It's living a lie and expecting others to believe it. You are born either a male or female. I'm hetersexual bye the way.

"I'm hetersexual bye the way."

I was stunned and shocked to read this statement.

What a surprise.

This question occurs with some posts that suggest a lack of sexual contact with anyone at all.

Is there a difference between someone who is heterosexual in a theoretical or philosophical way and someone who actually practices heterosexuality?

Should there be some kind of terminology that reflects this divide?

After all it seems that many who claim to be heterosexual actually seem to think that sex is icky, nasty or messy ( or maybe icky if messy).

34 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

After all it seems that many who claim to be heterosexual actually seem to think that sex is icky, nasty or messy ( or maybe icky if messy).

It's definitely icky, and often messy.

If you don't know that, you've either never had a virgin, or had a woman in your bed with a surprise period. Both of which look somewhat like someone slaughtered a pig on your bedsheets.

Don't even think of squirters or ladies with poor bladder control!

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I wish the mods would start banning this type of content. It's NOT ok to have sex with children. It's NOT ok to infer they have some responsibility in a pedophiles actions.

Please stop allowing these types of posts, people with F'd up minds are feeding on this.

On 7/6/2026 at 4:49 PM, Purdey said:

In the "old days" royalty often married underage (by our standards) girls.

Richard II of England married Isabella of Valois (1396) when she was 6 years old.

Louis XVI of France married Marie Antoinette of Austria (1770) when he was 15 and she was 14. The same ages as Edward I of England and Eleanor of Castile (1254).

Edward II was supposedly gay or bisexual in the 14th century.

By the 1960s people even wrote songs about what was going on.

"Young Girl" by Gary Puckett & The Union Gap (1968)

"Stray Cat Blues" by The Rolling Stones (1968)

"Sweet Little Rock and Roller" by Chuck Berry (1958/1960s)

It isn't a modern "thing" at all.

Don't forget 'Good morning little schoolgirl' by Rod Stewart although he probably wants to..

4 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I was an activist on many world issues in the 60s. Somehow I got on this list where I would get a one page, b/w, adds for pornography in the mail from Scandinavia. Kiddieporn was mixed right in there with vanilla, including gay sex. I saved them for awhile just because they were so 'foreign' (not because of any moral outrage). I suppose their possession would make me a criminal today!

You were on mailing list which sold child porn in the 1960s?

Quite sure that you would have been a criminal back then as well

21 minutes ago, Katatonica said:

Don't forget 'Good morning little schoolgirl' by Rod Stewart although he probably wants to..

Rod only did a cover, this is an old one. 1937 Sonny Boy Williamson was the first recording.

On 7/6/2026 at 9:08 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

By the age of five, they can be dancers, models, actors, competitive sports, all of which require an adult outlook. They are showered with attention and flirted at. Touched. They like it. 

Physically touched ?

5 year old girls like to be touched ?

Where ?

15 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Indeed, I was also under the impression that producing cp was legal in Denmark. I think child abuse has always occurred and is even represented in art such as the mosaics of Herculaneum.

Children are demigods in the modern age, little princes and princesses. That view makes child sex even more repugnant to our modern sensibilities.

I was an activist on many world issues in the 60s. Somehow I got on this list where I would get a one page, b/w, adds for pornography in the mail from Scandinavia. Kiddieporn was mixed right in there with vanilla, including gay sex. I saved them for awhile just because they were so 'foreign' (not because of any moral outrage). I suppose their possession would make me a criminal today!

Just another case how morals change over time. The 60ties were special in many ways. For better or for worse.

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You were on mailing list which sold child porn in the 1960s?

Quite sure that you would have been a criminal back then as well

Evidently not. If they printed these flyers and sent them to other countries, they must have had many of the mailing list.

I make a last effort to convince posters here, that "morals" are as relative as E=mc2. Depending on time frame and "spirit of the time".

Not so long ago, Africans were shipped to the Americas to be sold as slaves. Within this "time frame", it was considered absolutely normal by western societies. Today, we find this "outrageous. Rightly so.

PS: Hold on to your hat: George Washington was a slaveholder.

Any doubts left that "morals" are as flexible as a rubber band?

38 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Evidently not. If they printed these flyers and sent them to other countries, they must have had many of the mailing list.

In which Country did you receive the advertising for child porn ?

It may have been legal in the sending Country and illegal in your receiving country .

Did you buy any ?

On 7/6/2026 at 9:08 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

By the age of five, they can be dancers, models, actors, competitive sports, all of which require an adult outlook. They are showered with attention and flirted at. Touched. They like it. 

If you are touching little girls inappropriately , then I suggest that you stop doing it .

You could spend the rest of your life in jail

On 7/10/2026 at 5:30 AM, Priorexpat said:

I wish the mods would start banning this type of content. It's NOT ok to have sex with children. It's NOT ok to infer they have some responsibility in a pedophiles actions.

Please stop allowing these types of posts, people with F'd up minds are feeding on this.

Great! Why stop there. Let's start burning witches again and burn "inconveniant" books again. As before.

Few of us realise that the "magnificent 7", listed on the New York stock exchange will decide who will be considered an economic "witch" to be burned at a financial stake and with books that urgently need to be burned.

Whats's left will be the library of Elon Musk and the rest of his 6 wizards of Oz.

God is dead, new Gods are entering the scene.

11 minutes ago, swissie said:

Great! Why stop there. Let's start burning witches again and burn "inconveniant" books again. As before.

Few of us realise that the "magnificent 7", listed on the New York stock exchange will decide who will be considered an economic "witch" to be burned at a financial stake and with books that urgently need to be burned.

Whats's left will be the library of Elon Musk and the rest of his 6 wizards of Oz.

God is dead, new Gods are entering the scene.

Do you think paedophilic posts should be allowed here ?

There's a huge difference between touching little girls and touching little girls inappropriately, (or little boys for that matter). In my many years as a kindergarten and primary school teacher, I learnt that getting KG kids to go where you want them to go is like herding cats!

Although I'm sure it's a sackable offence in the UK, it's completely normal in the countries where I taught (mostly in Myanmar) to gently move the KG kids by physical touch - grab their shoulders and move them! Otherwise you'll spend half the lesson wondering where all your cats have wandered off to :)

22 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

In which Country did you receive the advertising for child porn ?

It may have been legal in the sending Country and illegal in your receiving country .

Did you buy any ?

No money! How's that for deflection!

I was in Canada. Can't recall but I think the flyers were from Sweden.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Do you think paedophilic posts should be allowed here ?

What are "paedophilic posts"? Do you presume this is one?

47 minutes ago, simon43 said:

There's a huge difference between touching little girls and touching little girls inappropriately, (or little boys for that matter). In my many years as a kindergarten and primary school teacher, I learnt that getting KG kids to go where you want them to go is like herding cats!

Although I'm sure it's a sackable offence in the UK, it's completely normal in the countries where I taught (mostly in Myanmar) to gently move the KG kids by physical touch - grab their shoulders and move them! Otherwise you'll spend half the lesson wondering where all your cats have wandered off to :)

It's a terrible "improvement" in education that teachers may not comfort a sad child or reward one with a hug lest they be considered paedophiles and sacked. What a sad loss. We've really lost the plot of being human.