42 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

It's crazy. But there's a belief on the right that rioting may bring the government down, and this is promoted by the likes of Yaxley-Lennon, Reform and Restore. Fortunately it is unlikely to work as Brits tend to favour democracy.

The same thing has happened for decades, back to the 60s in my memory. Hasn't worked so far.

29 minutes ago, bruce123123 said:

Hopefully its targeted property

But it isn't. It never is, in any riot. The targets are overwhelmingly the property of those entirely innocent. Like the bus attacked and families with their house set on fire in Belfast.

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Can anyone explain to me why someone attempting murder on the street then leads to people setting fire to shops, buses, houses and shops, damaging their own community?

Yes Bangkok Barry. The government will not listen to concerned residents and ignore whats happening so in the end the only way to get a response is to hit the streets i,e the Toxteth riots in the 80s, Tottenham riots 2011, the riots in Oldham in 200. People have had enough and if it means forcing the government to act by doing this so be it.

6 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Yes Bangkok Barry. The government will not listen to concerned residents and ignore whats happening so in the end the only way to get a response is to hit the streets i,e the Toxteth riots in the 80s, Tottenham riots 2011, the riots in Oldham in 200. People have had enough and if it means forcing the government to act by doing this so be it.

Violence and destruction against innocent people and their property isn't acceptable for any reason. Not in any civilised society. And the only government response is to tighten restrictions and free speech.

3 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Violence and destruction against innocent people and their property isn't acceptable for any reason. Not in any civilised society. And the only government response is to tighten restrictions and free speech.

Whats your answer Barry ? kids being raped by migrants on the rise, Viciouse assaults like this on the increase again by illegals, the People of the uk have had enough, how many more young females will be raped or heniouse crimes like this before our Government take action.

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

It's crazy. But there's a belief on the right that rioting may bring the government down, and this is promoted by the likes of Yaxley-Lennon, Reform and Restore. Fortunately it is unlikely to work as Brits tend to favour democracy.

Perhaps they are frustrated with democracy since every UK government vows to tackle immigration and then when elected they do the opposite?

Perhaps when people are consistently lied to by their so called leaders they look at alternative methods to force their hand?

Seems to me the British have been extremely tolerant and patient of their inept and deeply dishonest leaders but everyone has a breaking point. Maybe the British are reaching theirs?

13 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Whats your answer Barry ? kids being raped by migrants on the rise, Viciouse assaults like this on the increase again by illegals, the People of the uk have had enough, how many more young females will be raped or heniouse crimes like this before our Government take action.

You're being selective. Policeman, born in Britain, raping and murdering. An MP who had to resign after initiating a street fight. A sports reporter's family killed by someone with a crossbow. None of the perpetrators were immigrants, all British born and bred. Plenty of other examples that you choose to ignore.

Ofcoarse there will be local incidents but we don't see locals hacked to death on uk streets attemted beheadings by local white residents. All the child rapists i wont call them groomers there child Rapists are mostly British pakistani heritage Barry. This poor Irish guy has likely had his eyes removed by this Sudanese immigrant. We don't see these often thank god.

But it isn't. It never is, in any riot. The targets are overwhelmingly the property of those entirely innocent. Like the bus attacked and families with their house set on fire in Belfast.

I would tend to agree with you.

But contrasting Jan6 with BLM, anyone that protested at the seat of power was 200x as likely to go to prison than those who burned and looted innocent interests in their neighborhoods, for pretty much the same crimes.

Of course, that was across the pond, but that's the way power works all over the world. Politicians shield themselves from consequences (with armed security, no less), throwing the little guys under the bus.

5 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

There will be an election in 2029. Vote accordingly.

Let's hope way before that. Or there's going to be a lot more unrest.

"My thoughts are with his family" from the pathetic cretin, Starmer, just doesn't cut it.

He then ignores the root cause, mass undocumented migration.

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Perhaps they are frustrated with democracy since every UK government vows to tackle immigration and then when elected they do the opposite?

Perhaps when people are consistently lied to by their so called leaders they look at alternative methods to force their hand?

Seems to me the British have been extremely tolerant and patient of their inept and deeply dishonest leaders but everyone has a breaking point. Maybe the British are reaching theirs?

You could be right. We'll find out at the next election. Unless Reform move leftwards before the election, people will have a choice of Restore (if they're still around) or an established party.

Was this a random attack?

1 minute ago, TimBKK said:

Was this a random attack?

No evidence otherwise. Not terrorist related, according to the police.

5 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

No evidence otherwise. Not terrorist related, according to the police.

Grok states “Bottom line: Available evidence points to a brutal, targeted assault between people who were neighbors in the same building, not a purely opportunistic random attack on a passerby.

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

You're being selective. Policeman, born in Britain, raping and murdering. An MP who had to resign after initiating a street fight. A sports reporter's family killed by someone with a crossbow. None of the perpetrators were immigrants, all British born and bred. Plenty of other examples that you choose to ignore.

As Manning quoted " Dog born in a stable,does the dog think its a horse"? Ethnic /skin colour will always be treated as an ethnic

The damned television ads are a disgrace, coloured actors portrayed as middle class typical family type are so far from the truth its putting people off buying the product being advertised

11 minutes ago, bruce123123 said:

The damned television ads are a disgrace, coloured actors portrayed as middle class typical family type are so far from the truth its putting people off buying the product being advertised

Well, you think coloured people aren't middle class family types? I have one in my family and - shock horror - he's married to my white niece. For decades. Successful businessman too. It does though seem that every commercial has to have a mixed race couple, and I'm sure that tv series wouldn't get funding unless they included a mixed race couple.

Also, every series must include a lesbian couple, a homosexual couple, and if they are mixed race so much the better. Extra production money for that. I've got nothing against these people, know quite a few, fine people. I don't understand that kind of relationship, but I don't condemn something I don't understand. But I do object to such relationships being stuffed down my throat every time I watch tv.

33 minutes ago, TimBKK said:

Grok states “Bottom line: Available evidence points to a brutal, targeted assault between people who were neighbors in the same building, not a purely opportunistic random attack on a passerby.

Interesting, I hadn't seen that. If it turns out to be true, hopefully the race-bait instigators will go back into their holes.

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11 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Interesting, I hadn't seen that. If it turns out to be true, hopefully the race-bait instigators will go back into their holes.

So what if it does turn out to be true? Are you suggesting that people will just have to get used to public beheadings in their suburban neighborhoods now ? Just part and parcel of living in a culturally enriched village? Is gauging someones eyes out and attempting to behead them okay if they are known to each other then?

3 minutes ago, James105 said:

So what if it does turn out to be true? Are you suggesting that people will just have to get used to public beheadings in their suburban neighborhoods now ? Just part and parcel of living in a culturally enriched village? Is gauging someones eyes out and attempting to behead them okay if they are known to each other then?

Not at all. If it turns out to be true I hope, and expect, the attacker will be locked up for a long time. No one should use violence to settle any neighbourhood disputes.

8 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not at all. If it turns out to be true I hope, and expect, the attacker will be locked up for a long time. No one should use violence to settle any neighbourhood disputes.

What if you're fighting a foreign invading army?

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

What if you're fighting a foreign invading army?

Easy with the histrionics. Are you one of these Facebook fighters, silly memes, meaningless rhetoric and the like?

Rhetorical question, the answer is obvious.

9 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

The violence wasn't limited to immigrant areas or property. And how is burning down property of innocent people justified anyway? And your saying that immigrants are not part of the community is a very sweeping statement that you have no proof of.

you may well be right but people are furious and a mob mentality has taken over as the balance of their minds is clearly disturbed, maybe they should receive a reduced sentence

Starmer today has said anyone causing the shocking scenes last night disorder will feel the full force of the law. Lets see the police try to arrest them, starmer thinks there same as the truble makers he pulls in from Englands streets. He is going to make a big mistake coming out with comments like this.

3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not at all. If it turns out to be true I hope, and expect, the attacker will be locked up for a long time. No one should use violence to settle any neighbourhood disputes.

So do you think locking up the attacker for "a very long time" will deter other lunatics or islamic extremists, I think you may be mistaken , just remember these people are damaged enough to wear and use suicide vests, Prison sentences mean nothing to them, and surprisingly enough, neither do Two Tier Kiers strongly worded, goto responses

8 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

You're being selective. Policeman, born in Britain, raping and murdering. An MP who had to resign after initiating a street fight. A sports reporter's family killed by someone with a crossbow. None of the perpetrators were immigrants, all British born and bred. Plenty of other examples that you choose to ignore.

yes indeed there are plenty of home grown wronguns in the UK, nobody disputes that, and nobody is ignoring it However more importantly , nobody is protecting them, or allowing them to continue their activities for fear of upsetting foreigners, or trying to invent excuses in order to justify their behaviour or providing them with free accommodation , The Police are not sent on special courses to teach them how to deal with our native criminals sensitively You sound like a lefty

12 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

So do you think locking up the attacker for "a very long time" will deter other lunatics or islamic extremists, I think you may be mistaken , just remember these people are damaged enough to wear and use suicide vests, Prison sentences mean nothing to them, and surprisingly enough, neither do Two Tier Kiers strongly worded, goto responses

Lunatics will be lunatics. Unfortunately mental health issues have been ignored by successive governments. There is no indication that this was an Islamist attack. But no I don't think that the likes of ISIS and other islamic terrorists will be deterred by prison sentences. Suicide attacks are what they prefer.

Death penalty for foreign murderers No remission on prison sentences for foreign Criminals . Automatic deportation for all foreigners convicted of any offence and their entire family goes with them kids and grandparents ,

4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Lunatics will be lunatics. Unfortunately mental health issues have been ignored by successive governments. There is no indication that this was an Islamist attack. But no I don't think that the likes of ISIS and other islamic terrorists will be deterred by prison sentences. Suicide attacks are what they prefer.

I think "mental health" should be no defence for murderers if somebody is that "mental" they should be removed from society, also any form of intoxication should no be allowed as a defence and should result in a heavier sentence

Heniouse crimes commited in the last few years like Lee Rigby's death, the Manchester arena bombing, the 3 deaths in Nottingham, the Soutport Monster have all got 1 thing in common Brewster can you guess what it is ??