3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I know what professional means.

Then you should know that there are a lot of professional criminals out there in the world.

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

and try not to assume when you haven't a clue to whom you're talking to.

Really now…

36 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

or intentional shot

This statement is where your credibility fails. An experienced hunter wouldn’t make such an assumption knowing that accidental hunting deaths are overwhelmingly accidental. As stated above, you seem very disoriented for a being a hunter.

1 minute ago, novacova said:

Then you should know that there are a lot of professional criminals out there in the world.

Really now…

This statement is where your credibility fails. An experienced hunter wouldn’t make such an assumption knowing that accidental hunting deaths are overwhelmingly accidental. As stated above, you seem very disoriented for a being a hunter.

Of course I know the world has many professional criminals. I'm 69, not 12.

It's actually your assumptions about me that are miles off.

Accidental hunting deaths are overwhelmingly accidental? No kidding. People have also been shot many times, making it look like an accident, by very intelligent people and not illegal hunters during illegal hunting.

It's not my assumption giving possible scenarios. it's what possibly happened. i didn't say it was either but only it possibly could be. Either an accident or intentional, as there isn't much else is there? I do know how guns work, and how hunting accidents happen, as I saw a couple and was almost shot once. Not near "disoriented" but well aware, as it's my passion for most of my life.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

I didn't say he shot him deliberately but he might have.

People don't hunt hogs at night from the ground, but I guess he could have fallen, then was getting up when his partner saw his eyes and shot, seeing the pellets would have been there a split second later, depending on distance, and could have hit him in the abdomen, again if his partner was a bad shot and shot low. A lousy hunter in any event , shooting at eyes without knowing the whereabouts of his partner.

Sure, it might have been deliberate.

Do people typically hunt hogs with shotguns?

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Sure, it might have been deliberate.

Do people typically hunt hogs with shotguns?

Mostly rifles or bows, as a shotgun has to have heavy pellets Double or Triple-O, some use size 4 Buckshot or slugs to kill one, and for close range in heavy cover or with dogs. Full choke bore is best, although modified at close range is okay. Some also use large caliber pistols and crossbows, with a few using spears.

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do people typically hunt hogs with shotguns?

Have done it but not with small shot. Heavier gauge is okay but you need to be close, and that makes it exciting, which is part of the hunt unlike animals that do not fight back.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, this is either a deliberate act. or of a complete moron with an illegal gun, hunting hogs illegally, who shot at eyes instead of knowing his target, who somehow hit the abdomen while aiming at eyes, in a sport where people are walking and not on the ground, especially at night using lights.

There it is. Easy answer

58 minutes ago, novacova said:

Yeah right, especially shotguns which are known for being inaccurate. Something that a “been around guns hunter” would know.

You killed yourself with that one. Anybody that has hunted big or small game, or have had tactical training, knows that that statement is totally ignorant. And please dont bring up doubles sawed off to 6 inches.

Any hunter or shotgun shooter worth a sh*t patterns his gun to get the best ammo/gun combination.

17 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Mostly rifles or bows, as a shotgun has to have heavy pellets Double or Triple-O, some use size 4 Buckshot or slugs to kill one, and for close range in heavy cover or with dogs. Full choke bore is best, although modified at close range is okay. Some also use large caliber pistols and crossbows, with a few using spears.

Spears are big in Hawaii. Usually 12 g with slugs or 45-70 lever guns as back up.

Ive only hunted hogs with rifle, but if I was using a shotgun, it would be a slug gun.

The best is when you can use a machine gun but you have to be able to afford it.

Ive got a stiffy for the new SOCOM rifle, LMT in 6.5 Creedmore. That would drop a hog at 750 meters LOL

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You killed yourself with that one. Anybody that has hunted big or small game, or have had tactical training, knows that that statement is totally ignorant. And please dont bring up doubles sawed off to 6 inches.

Any hunter or shotgun shooter worth a sh*t patterns his gun to get the best ammo/gun combination.

That’s why shotguns are so accurate due to short range only functionality and worthless for long range due to the fact those things are for shooting barn broadsides with scattered pellets and 1oz slugs. Great for spraying birds and self defense though.

30 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

Have done it but not with small shot. Heavier gauge is okay but you need to be close, and that makes it exciting, which is part of the hunt unlike animals that do not fight back.

Yeah and the thing about hogs is that not only are they dangerous, disease ridden, destructive and dirty, the feral ones are not very cute as animals go. I could never ever hunt anything anymore except vermin (which there isnt any where I am), and quite frankly, hogs are vermin.

Last time I hunted hogs I did it with an accurized early forged M1A with open sights! I could see! See!!! 168 grain match kings. Great fun. I got one at 500 yards. Oh the good old days! Cheap guns and ammo!

If I wasnt leaving soon, I would go buy a modern rifle for hogging. Actually, I would buy the Optic first, thats the key with bad vision. Friggen rifles like the HK MR762 are 5K, add 2k for optic and mount. Wow, hobbiess are expensive now, maybe Ill just go to Nana

4 minutes ago, novacova said:

That’s why shotguns are so accurate due to short range only functionality and worthless for long range due to the fact those things are for shooting barn broadsides with scattered pellets and 1oz slugs. Great for spraying birds and self defense though.

Bro no one says you will pick off Terrorists at 500 yards with a shotgun, but in woods or jungle the effective 50 yard of a pattern can be quite tight. You cant even see that far sometimes.

I have put three slugs touching at 75 yards more than once. I would daresay that an experienced shooter could easily hit man a man target at 200 yards with a shotgun slug. In some states, you can only hunt big game with a shotgun

Why are you arguing?

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I have put three slugs touching at 75 yards more than once. I would daresay that an experienced shooter could easily hit man a man target at 200 yards with a shotgun slug. In some states, you can only hunt big game with a shotgun

A 1oz slug has a massive drop @200 yards, not an easy target in the slightest, perhaps in a competition targeting with consistency of trial and error.

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Why are you arguing?

It only appears so because someone else has different experiences.

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What I wrote is certainly plausible and, in the absence of anything to suggest that anything untoward happened, the likelihood is that it was an accident. What's your problem?

I don't agree on what you wrote being plausible.

6 minutes ago, novacova said:

A 1oz slug has a massive drop @200 yards, not an easy target in the slightest, perhaps in a competition targeting with consistency of trial and error

Maybe for you its hard. 35 inches at 200 yards is no big deal. The 308 drops as much as 100 inches at 600 yards on a 100 yard zero, so what.

Put a scope on your shotgun and zero it to minimize drop. Thats what range time is for

21 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Yeah and the thing about hogs is that not only are they dangerous, disease ridden, destructive and dirty, the feral ones are not very cute as animals go. I could never ever hunt anything anymore except vermin (which there isnt any where I am), and quite frankly, hogs are vermin.

I agree that they are vermin and should be eradicated but that does not seem possible. As to being dangerous I shot one with a 12 gauge and its hind legs were done, it intestines were hanging on the ground and it turned to come after me on its front legs. Thankfully the shotgun was a 5 shot pump action because it was only 5 metres away.

Some off topic deflection posts and replies about hunting in Texas have been removed as this topic is about:

Hunter Shoots Friend Dead in Chiang Rai Forest

Here is the universal rule of hunting: he who pulls the trigger is responsible.

21 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Nor am I. Nor are most hunters, in shotgun country, thats an unusually long shot.

Why bother bringing it up…

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Maybe for you its hard. 35 inches at 200 yards is no big deal.

23 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Good grief, who would do that

…with the scope as you suggested?

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Put a scope on your shotgun and zero it to minimize drop. Thats what range time is for

…then why make such a suggestion.

27 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

although it seems you would think you would need a magnum.

Rather odd thing to say, gotta wonder.

8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Here is the universal rule of hunting: he who pulls the trigger is responsible.

Firearm ownership requires responsibility, just as driving a vehicle, don’t assume anything.

5 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

He's never been hunting

Maybe he is an animal lover

1 minute ago, still kicking said:

Maybe he is an animal lover

Yes, absolutely love eating animals.

17 minutes ago, novacova said:

Open country? During hunting season you won’t find elk in open county and they stay out of the open.

You definitely havent hunted elk. How about Moose? Use shotguns? Open country shots?

PS on topic, using a shtgun in the brush for hogs is fine

2 hours ago, FigLeaf said:

I don't agree on what you wrote being plausible.

Didn't imagine for one moment that you would.

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Didn't imagine for one moment that you would.

I don't think you could imagine that anyone would. For rather obvious reasons.

I think the opinion of someone who has hunted regularly, carries a bit more weight than someone who clearly has no hunting experience at all.

In conclusion, unless you have some experience of these things, I would prefer that you refrained from wasting my time any longer. Thank you.

14 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Perhaps he started to stand up just as his pal pulled the trigger, perhaps his pal was bad shot, perhaps his abdomen was exposed to his pal and he turned his head to face him hence his pal seeing his eyes. But if you're claiming, without any evidence to do so, that his pal shot him deliberately, so be it, you must be right.

Exactly. Obviously an accident unless the police say different. Implying that he possibly intentionally shot and killed his friend is absurd.

On 5/31/2026 at 5:43 AM, fredwiggy said:

but a hog is so low to the ground it should never have happened, unless of course it was intentional.

Absurd to even go there.

Hunting accident going after moo pa (wild boar). Yes hunting in Thailand is illegal but moo pa is very tasty indeed (I've eaten it here) and hunting for them happens.

An insensitive troll post and the replies have been removed.

An off topic post about hunting "accidents" in the USA has been removed.

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You definitely havent hunted elk. How about Moose? Use shotguns? Open country shots?

PS on topic, using a shtgun in the brush for hogs is fine

These two may have been from the nearby village. If so a homemade rifle is more likely. I've seen a fair few homemade rifles and they are indeed something else. Where I am they're used for hunting rice paddy rats.

2 hours ago, khunJam said:

Exactly. Obviously an accident unless the police say different. Implying that he possibly intentionally shot and killed his friend is absurd.

On 5/31/2026 at 5:43 AM, fredwiggy said:

but a hog is so low to the ground it should never have happened, unless of course it was intentional.

Absurd to even go there

Agree. That's (some) Thai-bashing AN posters for you!

5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Agree. That's (some) Thai-bashing AN posters for you!

Who is Thai bashing here? Not I, as I only offered, again, possible scenarios. This possibility has happened all over the world.

It might be best not to think you can outsmart people who have more experience in some things here. If you did have some experience, and possibly read the links, as there are many, you would see all hunting accidents aren't just accidents.

This one could be either, as we only have what the man said, which could be a lie or the truth.

Would someone let me know when the CSI ASEAN gang has solved this tragedy?

I was taught that you don’t pull the trigger if you can’t clearly see and identify your target. Every hunting season when I was growing up there would be at least a couple of hunting accidents. Usually some city boy shooting another hunter. Doesn’t surprise me that it also happens here.

4 minutes ago, Front Row said:

Would someone let me know when the CSI ASEAN gang has solved this tragedy?

I was taught that you don’t pull the trigger if you can’t clearly see and identify your target. Every hunting season when I was growing up there would be at least a couple of hunting accidents. Usually some city boy shooting another hunter. Doesn’t surprise me that it also happens here.

Spray then Pray is the go.