16 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Ah, like that teen girls' locker room Trump barged into?

Without Trump how boring this planet would have been.

5 hours ago, ravip said:

Without Trump how boring this planet would have been.

Even I'll miss him...sort of! What else will we have to talk about?

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

You might want to read that link I sent. It explains what exhibitionism is. An outdoor shower exposes people to naked people. That's what indoor showers and doors are for.

There are plenty of moral people around and there are laws. Molestation happens when people, especially children, aren't taught what bad touch means while very young, that you don't trust anyone you don't know. Children don't need to see naked men to learn about body parts. School is supposed to teach them after parents do, if they're around at all.

Don't let your children around anyone you can't fully trust, let them know what to do if they're made to feel uncomfortable, and extreme prejudice towards anyone who touches your child.

Okay, Fred, now you're off the wall. You want to teach children to never trust anyone they don't know?!? What kind of a world would that be. Just today I picked up a toddler and brought her back to her mother!

School and parents are supposed to--but they don't. Religions silences sex ed and parents are to embarassed to give their kids the real facts of life.

Wasn't it Biden who was called out for showering with his daughter, Ashley? I have often showered with all three of my children, two girls and a boy--naked (can you believe it?). I've also taken them to nude beaches and hotsprings and swimming and even naked horseback riding.

You have a way different view of morality than I. Get out your camera if you're in my neighbourhood at shower time!

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Okay, Fred, now you're off the wall. You want to teach children to never trust anyone they don't know?!? What kind of a world would that be. Just today I picked up a toddler and brought her back to her mother!

School and parents are supposed to--but they don't. Religions silences sex ed and parents are to embarassed to give their kids the real facts of life.

Wasn't it Biden who was called out for showering with his daughter, Ashley? I have often showered with all three of my children, two girls and a boy--naked (can you believe it?). I've also taken them to nude beaches and hotsprings and swimming and even naked horseback riding.

You have a way different view of morality than I. Get out your camera if you're in my neighbourhood at shower time!

Not near off the wall but logical. How do you think predators work? Getting confidence. You have children so should have been through that learning process to keep yours as safe as you can. There are many who don't care, and allow their children to stay with most anyone, and as you can see, many are victims because of this. The child molesters are usually known by the family.

Sex education should be first parent taught, with good touch and bad touch and the talks about it, letting them know anyone can be a predator.

I've also brought wandering children back to their parents. many times as I've been the primary caretaker of mine all along so spent most of my time with them in outdoor activities around other children. It's a parent's duty to protect all children from the weirdos that are everywhere.

Guess you don't realize just how many perverts are around. Up to 65% of girls in Thailand alone are molested in schools by the time they're 17, and those types learned that behavior somewhere.

Showering with children should be stopped past a certain age, usually around 5 or so, as they should also be taught what privacy means. I did myself, but stopped at 3, as I wanted them to know what personal privacy means. Mostly girls, so they bathed with their moms a little later. Yes, I have a different. more moral view of life, and children's moral upbringing.

Yes, there are nude beaches that allow public nudity, with the rest of the world not allowing public nudity, and there's reasons for that.

I'm obviously much more aware of the dangers children face in this world, seeing you think you can trust more strangers. research how predators work, and how many are around and what they do to children daily everywhere.

Why would I get out my camera if I'm in your neighborhood? I've explained I'm not of a pervert mind by now I'm sure.

Edited July 28Jul 28 by fredwiggy

23 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Were you actually trapped? You were in development. Had you been "liberated" after 1 month, I believe the correct term of use would then be aborted.

If I was aborted after one month, I would not be here corresponding with you

42 minutes ago, Jack Hammer said:

If I was aborted after one month, I would not be here corresponding with you

Are you sure?

16 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

You might want to read that link I sent. It explains what exhibitionism is. An outdoor shower exposes people to naked people. That's what indoor showers and doors are for.

There are plenty of moral people around and there are laws. Molestation happens when people, especially children, aren't taught what bad touch means while very young, that you don't trust anyone you don't know. Children don't need to see naked men to learn about body parts. School is supposed to teach them after parents do, if they're around at all.

Don't let your children around anyone you can't fully trust, let them know what to do if they're made to feel uncomfortable, and extreme prejudice towards anyone who touches your child.

Been thinking about this, Fred. Modesty has very little to do with the body's coverings and everything to do with comtrolling the ego. Modesty & humility walk hand in hand.

What would you personally do if you saw someone naked, say, on a hotel balcony or in a pool, sauna, the ocean or, Goddess forfend, having a shower under the banana trees in his own garden? What would you do personally if you saw a couple coupling on the beach, day or night?

If you're a sensible person, well, you could tut-tut or smile with amusement. Or your ego could get you flapping, calling them sinners, taking video as "evidence" aso? See the difference?

Walk on by, Fred. You do you.

2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Been thinking about this, Fred. Modesty has very little to do with the body's coverings and everything to do with comtrolling the ego. Modesty & humility walk hand in hand.

What would you personally do if you saw someone naked, say, on a hotel balcony or in a pool, sauna, the ocean or, Goddess forfend, having a shower under the banana trees in his own garden? What would you do personally if you saw a couple coupling on the beach, day or night?

If you're a sensible person, well, you could tut-tut or smile with amusement. Or your ego could get you flapping, calling them sinners, taking video as "evidence" aso? See the difference?

Walk on by, Fred. You do you.

I have seen people naked in public. I just walked on. If they decide to have sex on a beach, at least do it without any spectators. It's not my business unless I see children observing, where I would try and get them to look away.

Maybe adjacent to this topic. Do you close your bathroom door when you do your business? Lock it?

Too stuffy in our bathroom, no air movement. I'd only shut the door if in someone else's home.

7 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Maybe adjacent to this topic. Do you close your bathroom door when you do your business? Lock it?

Too stuffy in our bathroom, no air movement. I'd only shut the door if in someone else's home.

Some things are meant to be private. That's another one. No need to lock unless in another's house with many guests about.

I'm confused. If I Google nude swimming pool in Bern or nude swimming pool in Bern I get nothing.

I'm calling the whole thing BS.

On 7/27/2026 at 8:09 AM, fredwiggy said:

Transgender is mainly a mental identity, a sense of gender identity, no matter the physical changes. Yes, they are physically still male, but see themselves as a woman. A Transvestite is someone who dresses as a woman, either gay or straight, many times for shows but also for comfort.

Its a mental illness.

We do have the progressive miracle cure: instead of treating the delusion, we affirm it, sterilize the patient, and call anyone who notices ‘hateful.

1 minute ago, FinChin67 said:

Its a mental illness.

We do have the progressive miracle cure: instead of treating the delusion, we affirm it, sterilize the patient, and call anyone who notices ‘hateful.

The WHO and American Psychological Association actually doesn't list it a such, but a diversity. Lot of arguments either way. What many go through leads to extreme stress, which has some seeking help for that alone.

Edited July 29Jul 29 by fredwiggy

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The WHO and American Psychological Association actually doesn't list it a such, but a diversity. Lot of arguments either way. What many go through leads to extreme stress, which has some seeking help for that alone.

They have a strange way to release the stress. I say it's a mental illness and there are plenty who suffer from it. There's also a lot of sick (pervert) people who are pushing this to kids.

Audrey Hale (Aiden Hale), Covenant School, Nashville, TN (March 2023): Trans man (female-to-male). Killed 6 (3 children, 3 staff). Confirmed by police. One of the clearest cases under strict definitions.

Alec McKinney (born Maya), STEM School Highlands Ranch, CO (May 2019): Trans boy/man. Co-perpetrator with a cisgender male; 1 killed, 8 injured. Identity confirmed.

Snochia Moseley, Rite Aid warehouse, Aberdeen, MD (September 2018): Reported by friends/family as identifying as a transgender man and discussing hormones. 3 killed (workplace shooting); shooter died. Some sources treat identity as less formally confirmed by authorities.

Anderson Lee Aldrich, Club Q nightclub, Colorado Springs, CO (November 2022): Identified as non-binary (they/them). 5 killed. Classified by some as a hate crime against an LGBTQ venue; identity self-reported.

Robin Westman (name change from Robert), Annunciation Catholic Church/School, Minneapolis, MN (August 2025): Name-change petition indicated identifying as female; federal officials and reporting referred to the shooter as transgender. Killed 2 children, injured ~18–21; shooter died.

2 minutes ago, FinChin67 said:

They have a strange way to release the stress. I say it's a mental illness and there are plenty who suffer from it. There's also a lot of sick (pervert) people who are pushing this to kids.

Audrey Hale (Aiden Hale), Covenant School, Nashville, TN (March 2023): Trans man (female-to-male). Killed 6 (3 children, 3 staff). Confirmed by police. One of the clearest cases under strict definitions.

Alec McKinney (born Maya), STEM School Highlands Ranch, CO (May 2019): Trans boy/man. Co-perpetrator with a cisgender male; 1 killed, 8 injured. Identity confirmed.

Snochia Moseley, Rite Aid warehouse, Aberdeen, MD (September 2018): Reported by friends/family as identifying as a transgender man and discussing hormones. 3 killed (workplace shooting); shooter died. Some sources treat identity as less formally confirmed by authorities.

Anderson Lee Aldrich, Club Q nightclub, Colorado Springs, CO (November 2022): Identified as non-binary (they/them). 5 killed. Classified by some as a hate crime against an LGBTQ venue; identity self-reported.

Robin Westman (name change from Robert), Annunciation Catholic Church/School, Minneapolis, MN (August 2025): Name-change petition indicated identifying as female; federal officials and reporting referred to the shooter as transgender. Killed 2 children, injured ~18–21; shooter died.

It's their identity from birth. You really can't force this on others as it's not really a choice they make, even though I myself sometimes consider it so. That some choose to kill others might come from that stress, or more likely an already underlying condition.

Edited July 29Jul 29 by fredwiggy

5 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

I'm confused. If I Google nude swimming pool in Bern or nude swimming pool in Bern I get nothing.

I'm calling the whole thing BS.

You asked AI the wring question,

• Marzili Lido ("Paradiesli"): Features a historic separate women-only section where complete nudity and sunbathing are officially permitted.

• Access Rules: City guidelines state that all individuals who legally identify and live as women are permitted entry into this specific zone.

• Standard Swimwear: Complete social nudity is prohibited in the main mixed family pools, general lawns, and active recreational sections.

• Topless Norms: While full nudity is restricted outside of zones like Paradiesli, local river swimming and general outdoor lounging norms in Bern tend to be relaxed.

5 hours ago, FinChin67 said:

They have a strange way to release the stress. I say it's a mental illness and there are plenty who suffer from it. There's also a lot of sick (pervert) people who are pushing this to kids.

Audrey Hale (Aiden Hale), Covenant School, Nashville, TN (March 2023): Trans man (female-to-male). Killed 6 (3 children, 3 staff). Confirmed by police. One of the clearest cases under strict definitions.

Alec McKinney (born Maya), STEM School Highlands Ranch, CO (May 2019): Trans boy/man. Co-perpetrator with a cisgender male; 1 killed, 8 injured. Identity confirmed.

Snochia Moseley, Rite Aid warehouse, Aberdeen, MD (September 2018): Reported by friends/family as identifying as a transgender man and discussing hormones. 3 killed (workplace shooting); shooter died. Some sources treat identity as less formally confirmed by authorities.

Anderson Lee Aldrich, Club Q nightclub, Colorado Springs, CO (November 2022): Identified as non-binary (they/them). 5 killed. Classified by some as a hate crime against an LGBTQ venue; identity self-reported.

Robin Westman (name change from Robert), Annunciation Catholic Church/School, Minneapolis, MN (August 2025): Name-change petition indicated identifying as female; federal officials and reporting referred to the shooter as transgender. Killed 2 children, injured ~18–21; shooter died.

Mass killings and mass shootings by transgender perpetrators are extremely rare, with databases confirming between 1 and 5 incidents depending on how a mass shooting is define. In general, mass shootings are four or more people killed, excluding the perpetrator.

• Long-term Databases: A joint database maintained by The Associated Press, USA Today, and Northeastern University reports hundreds of mass killings since 2006.

• Recent Yearly Counts: Real-time tracking projects an average of roughly 25 mass killings involving firearms per year nationwide.

• Current Year Statistics: “These violent episodes have occurred 11 times since the beginning of 2026.”, as noted by The Washington Post.

The solution is not in outlawing transgender surgery (for which anyone would be foolish not to do it in Thailand) but in outlawing guns.

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

It's their identity from birth. You really can't force this on others as it's not really a choice they make, even though I myself sometimes consider it so. That some choose to kill others might come from that stress, or more likely an already underlying condition.

Or being marginal, shunned and ridiculed in our society.

you cant have a member swinging about ,it stands out at the party

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Mass killings and mass shootings by transgender perpetrators are extremely rare, with databases confirming between 1 and 5 incidents depending on how a mass shooting is define. In general, mass shootings are four or more people killed, excluding the perpetrator.

• Long-term Databases: A joint database maintained by The Associated Press, USA Today, and Northeastern University reports hundreds of mass killings since 2006.

• Recent Yearly Counts: Real-time tracking projects an average of roughly 25 mass killings involving firearms per year nationwide.

• Current Year Statistics: “These violent episodes have occurred 11 times since the beginning of 2026.”, as noted by The Washington Post.

The solution is not in outlawing transgender surgery (for which anyone would be foolish not to do it in Thailand) but in outlawing guns.

Make asylums great again.

The obvious reality is that giving rage-inducing hormones to mentally unstable people will cause a major increase in murder. Statistically, trans and trans-driven (eg Charlie Kirk’s killer) homicide rates are more than triple that of the general population.

Edited July 29Jul 29 by FinChin67

On 7/27/2026 at 8:32 AM, sammieuk1 said:

I'm betting that at least 3 members on here will say they do have the right' to visit, I will leave the guessing to you or just wait for them to wake up🤔

I am a woman.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSMCm6B4di_01J7cdxHADhN07HXZI2iHDl7c2OnDCHizg&s=10

On 7/27/2026 at 10:48 AM, Jingthing said:

You thought wrong.

Gender identity and sexual orientation are totally separate.

Hour did you reach your age not knowing such a basic fact?

They are different, gender identity is not reality, it's a fantasy or mental illness. Sexual orientation is decided before birth, its not 'assigned' it's a biological FACT which cannot be altered. Gender is in our DNA, dressing up and claiming to be a woman by a man is fooling nobody.

On 7/27/2026 at 11:58 AM, Jingthing said:

Why do people feel the need to be so EXTREMIST about this? I really don't get it.

Having your cock cut off and having fake tits put in seems extreme, I don't get that. Of course hardly any of these tranny want to go that far, no guts.

9 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

I'm confused. If I Google nude swimming pool in Bern or nude swimming pool in Bern I get nothing.

I'm calling the whole thing BS.

Strange search machine of yours... or maybe you just write BS...

21 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Wasn't it Biden who was called out for showering with his daughter, Ashley? I have often showered with all three of my children, two girls and a boy--naked (can you believe it?). I've also taken them to nude beaches and hotsprings and swimming and even naked horseback riding.

No. It was Ashley Biden's diary from a rehab where she outlined the trauma that led to her sex/drink/drug addictions. One part was how her father AROUSED her in the shower.

Which is why the hivemind here bleat on about Trump being a pedo. They always talk in opposites.

They could just do a Transgender Thursday, when only transgender people can use the beach, then a Lesbian Tuesday, when only the lesbians can use the beach. And then Homosexual Man Monday, when only gay men can use the beach, and a Hetero Friday, when all the normal people can use the beach. It's simple, if you're sensitive and sensible like me.

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

They could just do a Transgender Thursday, when only transgender people can use the beach, then a Lesbian Tuesday, when only the lesbians can use the beach. And then Homosexual Man Monday, when only gay men can use the beach, and a Hetero Friday, when all the normal people can use the beach. It's simple, if you're sensitive and sensible like me.

What days would gender fluid and bi curious be?

17 minutes ago, visalady said:

What days would gender fluid and bi curious be?

Bisexual Sunday for those who swing both ways, and Saturday is set aside for Zoophiles who can bring their pets. No hanky panky of course. Just clean Zoo beach fun.

12 hours ago, Schoggibueb said:

Strange search machine of yours... or maybe you just write BS...

I just looked again. Nothing DuckDuckGo.

4 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

I just looked again. Nothing DuckDuckGo.

If you want to search safely I recommend this...