6 hours ago, JAG said:

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Sweet Jesus's!

It was pretty catastrophic having the nutter on the bus Kennedy dictating such matters (measles anyone) but now Trump is weighing in with his medical advice!

Quick - buy shares in bleach producers!

5 hours ago, johng said:

Bleach and UV work...even if Trump said to drink bleach which he didn't

It would have only be the most moronic Dawin award candidates effected.

As a side note they knew UV worked

both directly and indirectly to promote vitamin D production in the body ... that's why they told everyone to stay indoors and shut the parks and beaches, depressed, scared people tend to get sicker

than happy optimistic people.

Certain people take proven scientific facts and mix them with untruths.

UV-B radiation from sunlight is responsible to produce vitamin D in the skin. A few short, regular periods spent outdoors are sufficient to meet the requirement.

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UV-C radiation with a wavelength of approximately 205 to 280 nanometers destroys the genetic material of bacteria, viruses, and fungi. It damages the DNA or RNA so severely that the pathogens can no longer reproduce and are inactivated. This technology is used for the effective disinfection of water, air, and surfaces.

They are used in large ventilation and water treatment systems, or sometimes in laboratories within safety cabinets.

BUT:

UV-C radiation causes severe damage to the skin and eyes and is considered carcinogenic.

Unshielded lamps must never be operated when people or animals are in the room.

9 hours ago, webfact said:

The Journal also reported that Trump hopes “alleviating autism” will be part of his legacy and has taken issue with the pace of vaccine changes in recent months.

His only legacy will be having accelerated the decline of the West. Alleviating autism my a$$.

Seems to me the stable genius is looking for a distraction why else would he be pressuring his cabinet pick….you know the ex heroin user that likes to eat road kill.amazing times!!

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5 hours ago, CallumWK said:

I'm sending this to you, free of charge, so you have a spare one.

I think he said that people could be zapped with a light wand, kind of like a Star Wars movie that he watched a long long time ago.

When are these Med Beds coming on line? Then vaccines are dead.

All very fishy..........I'm beginning to think they don't really exist......or it's billionaires only getting them.

5 hours ago, Priorexpat said:

Yep, got all the childhood vaccines 1969. All of them. Still here.

Would like to see your scientific proof of the connection to autism, ( I have an autistic nephew, doctors say it was due to sister's marijuana use during pregnancy). I would like to see your scientific proof on these vaccines causing wokeness (although understanding societies inequalities is really more of a sign of educated vs. uneducated), causing men thinking they are women? Just more MAGA complete crap, say it and it is so. Swallow the B.S., MAGA imbeciles walk among us.

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It’s very hard to prove what and if a vaccine or a drug actually caused a disease.

The vaccine or a drug is not often the CAUSE of a disease, but may merely trigger it in someone who is genetically destined to develop it anyway.

You have probably heard about Angelina Jolie who had her breasts removed due to her carrying the BRAC gene. This gene makes her susceptible to breast cancer. However, without triggering the gene she might not have developed breast cancer in any way.

Our bodies are not a sum of parts, we are an ecosystem of endless loops and systems working together. Our cells signal to each other all the time, the communication is as fast as the speed of light. Drugs and toxins interfere or block this communication - that’s why they work or at times that’s why they fail and give us terrible side effects or even kill us.

Each and every one of us is unique, and how we tolerate toxins depends on our internal make-up. We have our immune systems that may be strong or faulty. Infants and the elderly are particularly sensitive to toxins. A very good immune system should, in theory protect you from most diseases! And yet, each time we take a vaccine, use drugs and yes, even Pharma drugs - we are knowingly feeding our bodies with toxins. These toxins are supposed to help us, but in many cases - they don’t. We don’t really know how many people are badly affected because many side effects show up as something completely unrelated.

Think of a forest, how the eco system works there. The birds that eat the berries from trees, how they dump the seeds to the ground. Other animals eat the young growth - ants carry away debris. Fungi live in rotten wood and breaks it down to fertile soil. And the cycle continues. Any one of the peripheral parts of this system that malfunctions, it will affect the whole ecosystem.

This is how our body works as well. Keep on poisoning it, there will be disbalance , ie lack of homeostasis. When the body is not in homeostasis it can’t thrive. We will always have inflammation in the body, our healthy immune system takes care of this. it’s called REDOX.

So before you ridicule Johnh or me for that matter - maybe learn a bit more about health and the body, humbly so. Vaccines/drugs are not simple choices. Many times we calculate the risk is less taking the vaccine than getting the disease - but for some - it’s not that simple. And, as already mentioned it’s actually hard to determine exactly how damaging they actually are. On top of it, vaccines happen to be the blockbuster of profits for the pharma industry. They stand to lose astronomical amounts of money if interest in vaccines faded. MSM is not going to inform you either, they rely on the advertising income from the same industry.

4 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

Just to clarify my "laughing" response. Not laughing with you but at your post.

watch the last" 60 minutes " if that is also laughable

52 minutes ago, Globalres said:

It’s very hard to prove what and if a vaccine or a drug actually caused a disease.

The vaccine or a drug is not often the CAUSE of a disease, but may merely trigger it in someone who is genetically destined to develop it anyway.

You have probably heard about Angelina Jolie who had her breasts removed due to her carrying the BRAC gene. This gene makes her susceptible to breast cancer. However, without triggering the gene she might not have developed breast cancer in any way.

Our bodies are not a sum of parts, we are an ecosystem of endless loops and systems working together. Our cells signal to each other all the time, the communication is as fast as the speed of light. Drugs and toxins interfere or block this communication - that’s why they work or at times that’s why they fail and give us terrible side effects or even kill us.

Each and every one of us is unique, and how we tolerate toxins depends on our internal make-up. We have our immune systems that may be strong or faulty. Infants and the elderly are particularly sensitive to toxins. A very good immune system should, in theory protect you from most diseases! And yet, each time we take a vaccine, use drugs and yes, even Pharma drugs - we are knowingly feeding our bodies with toxins. These toxins are supposed to help us, but in many cases - they don’t. We don’t really know how many people are badly affected because many side effects show up as something completely unrelated.

Think of a forest, how the eco system works there. The birds that eat the berries from trees, how they dump the seeds to the ground. Other animals eat the young growth - ants carry away debris. Fungi live in rotten wood and breaks it down to fertile soil. And the cycle continues. Any one of the peripheral parts of this system that malfunctions, it will affect the whole ecosystem.

This is how our body works as well. Keep on poisoning it, there will be disbalance , ie lack of homeostasis. When the body is not in homeostasis it can’t thrive. We will always have inflammation in the body, our healthy immune system takes care of this. it’s called REDOX.

So before you ridicule Johnh or me for that matter - maybe learn a bit more about health and the body, humbly so. Vaccines/drugs are not simple choices. Many times we calculate the risk is less taking the vaccine than getting the disease - but for some - it’s not that simple. And, as already mentioned it’s actually hard to determine exactly how damaging they actually are. On top of it, vaccines happen to be the blockbuster of profits for the pharma industry. They stand to lose astronomical amounts of money if interest in vaccines faded. MSM is not going to inform you either, they rely on the advertising income from the same industry.

Very sensible and accurate presentation, not a rant. Thank you.

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

I like your post and I am in my 78th year now and when I was a kid in the late 40s and early 50s, I had the usual round of vaccinations as was the norm in the UK at that time, namely: – measles, mumps, rubella vaccine (MMR), polio, whooping cough, diphtheria and tuberculosis, and possibly others?.

Throughout my life I've had many tetanus jabs, a yellow fever vaccination and a gammaglobulin vaccination before going to Nigeria and a couple of others which I can't recall the names of right now, and also the three Covid vaccinations here......

So far I've had no adverse reactions to all of the injections/vaccinations I've had and I think it's a bit late to start worrying about it now anyway, so listen to the science rather than those who would promote UV light and bleach, that's my advice.

Very similar experience. I'm 79. Before going to post war Japan with my army father I got loaded up bigtime with them. Age 2.
When I was on orders for Viet Nam 1970 got many more. All the vacs you mentioned plus typhus and typhoid was the shot that caused a major sore arm but much better than the fever I'm told.
Recently got shingles vaccine, 4 covid. All health checkups are remarkably normal or better.
But maybe 50-70 years is too soon for all the horrible effects to surface.

Trump is an imblecine ,he has had the childhood vaccinations, also his children

have ,but he does not want your children to have them ,has he not heard of the

largest increase in Measles in 30 years in the U S A ,we need more Polio !

He is also a coward who did everything to get out of going to Vietnam , but as

Commander in Chief has no problem sending military forces to war ,he is a

hypocrite and a very dangerous man.

regards worgeordie

1 hour ago, Globalres said:

It’s very hard to prove what and if a vaccine or a drug actually caused a disease.

The vaccine or a drug is not often the CAUSE of a disease, but may merely trigger it in someone who is genetically destined to develop it anyway.

You have probably heard about Angelina Jolie who had her breasts removed due to her carrying the BRAC gene. This gene makes her susceptible to breast cancer. However, without triggering the gene she might not have developed breast cancer in any way.

Our bodies are not a sum of parts, we are an ecosystem of endless loops and systems working together. Our cells signal to each other all the time, the communication is as fast as the speed of light. Drugs and toxins interfere or block this communication - that’s why they work or at times that’s why they fail and give us terrible side effects or even kill us.

Each and every one of us is unique, and how we tolerate toxins depends on our internal make-up. We have our immune systems that may be strong or faulty. Infants and the elderly are particularly sensitive to toxins. A very good immune system should, in theory protect you from most diseases! And yet, each time we take a vaccine, use drugs and yes, even Pharma drugs - we are knowingly feeding our bodies with toxins. These toxins are supposed to help us, but in many cases - they don’t. We don’t really know how many people are badly affected because many side effects show up as something completely unrelated.

Think of a forest, how the eco system works there. The birds that eat the berries from trees, how they dump the seeds to the ground. Other animals eat the young growth - ants carry away debris. Fungi live in rotten wood and breaks it down to fertile soil. And the cycle continues. Any one of the peripheral parts of this system that malfunctions, it will affect the whole ecosystem.

This is how our body works as well. Keep on poisoning it, there will be disbalance , ie lack of homeostasis. When the body is not in homeostasis it can’t thrive. We will always have inflammation in the body, our healthy immune system takes care of this. it’s called REDOX.

So before you ridicule Johnh or me for that matter - maybe learn a bit more about health and the body, humbly so. Vaccines/drugs are not simple choices. Many times we calculate the risk is less taking the vaccine than getting the disease - but for some - it’s not that simple. And, as already mentioned it’s actually hard to determine exactly how damaging they actually are. On top of it, vaccines happen to be the blockbuster of profits for the pharma industry. They stand to lose astronomical amounts of money if interest in vaccines faded. MSM is not going to inform you either, they rely on the advertising income from the same industry.

Written nicely, but...

No medication or vaccine ever offers an absolute, 100% guarantee of complete efficacy or total freedom from side effects.

However, pharmaceutical research must factor in statistical probabilities of success. This is also known as a risk-benefit assessment.

The following are NOT verified figures; they are simply intended to illustrate how pharmaceutical research ultimately has to approach such problems.

If a medication or vaccine prevents the deaths of 100,000 people but causes the deaths of 1,000, the situation is devastating for those individuals and their families.

Yet, 99,000 people are able to go on living.

Or one can say - drink raw milk, take some vitamins etc.pp. and from the 100'000 only 2'000 die.

Or 20'000, or 50'000...

I don't want to defend the pharmaceutical industry. But I guess you understand my point.

48 minutes ago, amexpat said:

When I was on orders for Viet Nam 1970 got many more. All the vacs you mentioned plus typhus and typhoid was the shot that caused a major sore arm

When I joined the (British) Army on about day 3 my platoon were marched to the clothing store, where we were issued with our uniforms ( as ever, three sizes, too big, too small and don't fit!). All contained in a kitbag and a suitcase, a large pack with all our web equipment on our back and a tin hat perched on our bonce. Medical centre was next to the clothing store, so inside, all our shots in the arms, back out, pick up our heavy suitcase and kitbags with our newly punctured arms and marched back to our lines. The next day - talk about sore arms!

The shouty man with the ridiculous slash peaked cap who was such an enthusiast for swinging our arms shoulder high had an epic tantrum which lasted all day! We were horrible idle officer cadets gentlemen! Idle is the worst crime ever to a Guards Colour Sergeant! I seem to remember the PTIs got in on the act - making us climb ropes! Skill at Arms instructors had us all holding our rifles out with outstretched arms, "pokey drill to strengthen the arms"

Happy days, all part of growing up and being British! Never did catch any of the dreaded lurgies they jabbed us for!

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59 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Written nicely, but...

No medication or vaccine ever offers an absolute, 100% guarantee of complete efficacy or total freedom from side effects.

However, pharmaceutical research must factor in statistical probabilities of success. This is also known as a risk-benefit assessment.

The following are NOT verified figures; they are simply intended to illustrate how pharmaceutical research ultimately has to approach such problems.

If a medication or vaccine prevents the deaths of 100,000 people but causes the deaths of 1,000, the situation is devastating for those individuals and their families.

Yet, 99,000 people are able to go on living.

Or one can say - drink raw milk, take some vitamins etc.pp. and from the 100'000 only 2'000 die.

Or 20'000, or 50'000...

I don't want to defend the pharmaceutical industry. But I guess you understand my point.

I understand what you are saying. What I’m trying to convey is that we don’t know what expressions our genes show. We don’t go for genetic testing of every possible quirk in our DNA. So when we are vaccinated we really don’t know IF we may be one of the persons having a possible DNA abnormality - neither can vaccines be tested for every single possible DNA problem either.

I believe each and every time we insert a toxin to our body, obviously our immune system reacts. Will the next vaccination set off an unexpected immunity reaction? Will it be the 4th or 10th vaccine that does it - or will it never happen? Each time a toxin enters the body the immune system becomes occupied with dealing with it. This means there is less of the immune system to take care of its daily chores. Ok, it’s a short while - but in some people (more often, I believe than we think we know) there becomes an opportunistic window for a problem to start - which can/could start a domino cascade of undesirable consequences. That’s a risk, we as individuals take when we accept to be vaccinated. I also think that giving infants several different vaccines on the same day is crazy, toxin overload.

I have a small uncomfortable hunch that this is being downplayed somewhat by the industry.

Just now, Globalres said:

I understand what you are saying. What I’m trying to convey is that we don’t know what expressions our genes show. We don’t go for genetic testing of every possible quirk in our DNA. So when we are vaccinated we really don’t know IF we may be one of the persons having a possible DNA abnormality - neither can vaccines be tested for every single possible DNA problem either.

I believe each and every time we insert a toxin to our body, obviously our immune system reacts. Will the next vaccination set off an unexpected immunity reaction? Will it be the 4th or 10th vaccine that does it - or will it never happen? Each time a toxin enters the body the immune system becomes occupied with dealing with it. This means there is less of the immune system to take care of its daily chores. Ok, it’s a short while - but in some people (more often, I believe than we think we know) there becomes an opportunistic window for a problem to start - which can/could start a domino cascade of undesirable consequences. That’s a risk, we as individuals take when we accept to be vaccinated. I also think that giving infants several different vaccines on the same day is crazy, toxin overload.

I have a small uncomfortable hunch that this is being downplayed somewhat by the industry.

To answer what you wrote,

“However, pharmaceutical research must factor in statistical probabilities of success. This is also known as a risk-benefit assessment.”

Yes, I understand that, however it’s not amusing when YOU happen to be one of the rare persons with the debilitating side effect! In such a case, it really doesn’t matter to you how rare it is 😂

1 minute ago, Globalres said:

I understand what you are saying. What I’m trying to convey is that we don’t know what expressions our genes show. We don’t go for genetic testing of every possible quirk in our DNA. So when we are vaccinated we really don’t know IF we may be one of the persons having a possible DNA abnormality - neither can vaccines be tested for every single possible DNA problem either.

I believe each and every time we insert a toxin to our body, obviously our immune system reacts. Will the next vaccination set off an unexpected immunity reaction? Will it be the 4th or 10th vaccine that does it - or will it never happen? Each time a toxin enters the body the immune system becomes occupied with dealing with it. This means there is less of the immune system to take care of its daily chores. Ok, it’s a short while - but in some people (more often, I believe than we think we know) there becomes an opportunistic window for a problem to start - which can/could start a domino cascade of undesirable consequences. That’s a risk, we as individuals take when we accept to be vaccinated. I also think that giving infants several different vaccines on the same day is crazy, toxin overload.

I have a small uncomfortable hunch that this is being downplayed somewhat by the industry.

The Trump/Kennedy administration’s rollback of vaccination programs could have unforseen implications for the US as global warming expands the present ranges of mosquito-borne diseases.

On top of this, lower vaccine uptake erodes herd immunity, leaving populations more vulnerable to outbreaks of malaria, dengue, and other vector-borne illnesses as their geographic range grows.

But, of course we're told that Global Warming is a myth!

1 hour ago, Jim Waldron said:

On top of this, lower vaccine uptake erodes herd immunity

Yes, thank you for this.

I was also thinking about to mention this, but I didn't want to overload my post.