I’m a retired 77 year old man living in Thailand , I’m generally fit and try to watch what I eat and don’t drink alcohol , smoke or use drugs. I use my home treadmill most days to slowly walk a few kilometers.

Over the past few months Ive started to notice that when I physically try to do some thing, like bend down to pick some thing off the floor, or when getting out of bed in the morning, or other normal physical activities, I get what I can only describe as aches and pains , mainly in my arms , legs and back .

I understand what I’m now experiencing may be due to my advanced age , but I’m hoping I can in some way try and reduce the annoying feeling of aches and pains . I was wondering if taking some form of natural supplement would help reduce my aches and pains. Ive looked and searched on the internet for an answer, but it seems to be flooded with far too many advertising generated recommendations .

So has any one here experienced any thing similar ( aches and pains ) and may have found some thing that helped .

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Try yoga or Taichi, anything that involves stretching.

Keep moving for sure, and you can try Glucosamine Sulfate, Chondroitin, Shark Cartilage and Msm for joint support, as I'm thinking that's where you're having the pain and not the muscles themselves. You can find them in a combination instead of separately.

If you can get some weights or go to a gym a couple of times a week, you can build a little muscle, that will help support those joints.

I have pains in my joints at 69 and have for a decade or so, mostly coming from lifting extreme weights for decades, but most everyone experiences these things after 40.

Edited August 10Aug 10 by fredwiggy

I am 73, have had a spinal injury from my 40's, I am used to having pain 24/7 sometimes mild other times pretty bad but mornings are by far the worst, lots of trouble just standing. I do have meds for when the pain is very bad but try to avoid it if I can, was on opoids for 20 years till I weaned myself off them. I have a bike machine I can peddle for short periods of time and do walk but need to be on even ground but we had to buy a quad bike to enable me to get around our land(seperate blocks) and only walk when on the ground around the trees. Knees are getting bad too but again age tends to do that, the walking does help and we bought a walking machine so I can walk more at home,I also try various sitting excercises as well, my back restricts me but without any injuries you should be able to do more than me, look up sitting excercises as they can help build up your legs/knees etc with reasonably gentle work but walking does tend to be the best excercise, painful mornings are just something we need to adjust too as we age.

As I approached 80 I started to get the same kind of aches and pains OP describes. Over the previous year I had started doing more walking and exercises.

Long story short, some online research showed that some of the "old school" exercises I was doing, such as stretching down to touch toes, did more harm than good. Also, that at my age, most exercises should be done slowly with fewer reps.

I'd suggest OP do some concentrated research as to which exercises are best for his situation.

Not that I no longer have aches & pains...get rid of one, find another. Part of the adventure of ageing

1 hour ago, Captain Disorderly said:

I’m a retired 77 year old man living in Thailand , I’m generally fit and try to watch what I eat and don’t drink alcohol , smoke or use drugs. I use my home treadmill most days to slowly walk a few kilometers.

Over the past few months Ive started to notice that when I physically try to do some thing, like bend down to pick some thing off the floor, or when getting out of bed in the morning, or other normal physical activities, I get what I can only describe as aches and pains , mainly in my arms , legs and back .

I understand what I’m now experiencing may be due to my advanced age , but I’m hoping I can in some way try and reduce the annoying feeling of aches and pains . I was wondering if taking some form of natural supplement would help reduce my aches and pains. Ive looked and searched on the internet for an answer, but it seems to be flooded with far too many advertising generated recommendations .

So has any one here experienced any thing similar ( aches and pains ) and may have found some thing that helped .

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Well, Tai-Chi is a good advice.......after rolling out of the bed.

Take a spoonful of Tumeric/Curcuma daily, helps perfectly to reduce the pain at least.

2 hours ago, Captain Disorderly said:

I’m hoping I can in some way try and reduce the annoying feeling of aches and pains .

#1 answer to your concern is stretching.

I don't wear thongs/jandles et al. so I always wear almost invisible socks. Sitting on the steps and grunting as I put them on every time I leave the house but I am stretching as I do so.

I always sit up before getting out of bed. Exercises the abs.

The back is more difficult as you will need to hang from something. I don't have anything so when in the shower I try to raise my arms as high as possible alternating arms to pull the other.

There are many ways to stretch when doing routine tasks.

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Keep moving for sure, and you can try Glucosamine Sulfate, Chondroitin, Shark Cartilage and Msm for joint support, as I'm thinking that's where you're having the pain and not the muscles themselves. You can find them in a combination instead of separately.

If you can get some weights or go to a gym a couple of times a week, you can build a little muscle, that will help support those joints.

I have pains in my joints at 69 and have for a decade or so, mostly coming from lifting extreme weights for decades, but most everyone experiences these things after 40.

after 60 or so the body ceases to produce collagen...you might check which collagen and dosage produces nutrients for joints.

11 minutes ago, Presnock said:

after 60 or so the body ceases to produce collagen...you might check which collagen and dosage produces nutrients for joints.

I started taking it 2 years ago, and ran out a little while back, but will start again when I visit my family in November. The ones I took were Types 1,2 and 3, for joints, gastro, skin and hair.

Edited August 10Aug 10 by fredwiggy

5 hours ago, Captain Disorderly said:

So has any one here experienced any thing similar ( aches and pains ) and may have found some thing that helped .

Age 70 here, joint pains have mostly gone now I smoke 0.5gm of mostly indica cannabis before bed every night.

Funny thing, when I visit my daughter back home and smoke with her, they do lighten up a bit.

15 hours ago, Captain Disorderly said:

So has any one here experienced any thing similar ( aches and pains ) and may have found some thing that helped .

Glycine

Vitamin D3/K2

21 hours ago, novacova said:

Try yoga or Taichi, anything that involves stretching.

Thanks, before I try to do any thing more physical I was hoping that I could possibility take some sort of supplement that would help reduce the constant daily pain , then when the pain has hopefully subsided , start to think about becoming more physically active

21 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Keep moving for sure, and you can try Glucosamine Sulfate, Chondroitin, Shark Cartilage and Msm for joint support, as I'm thinking that's where you're having the pain and not the muscles themselves. You can find them in a combination instead of separately.

If you can get some weights or go to a gym a couple of times a week, you can build a little muscle, that will help support those joints.

I have pains in my joints at 69 and have for a decade or so, mostly coming from lifting extreme weights for decades, but most everyone experiences these things after 40.

Ive never been physically active or been involved in any types of sport, and at 77 years of age , becoming more physically active at my advanced age , only lead to other complications . I suppose I was just thinking that I could take some sort of supplement like you mention ,

21 hours ago, seajae said:

I am 73, have had a spinal injury from my 40's, I am used to having pain 24/7 sometimes mild other times pretty bad but mornings are by far the worst, lots of trouble just standing. I do have meds for when the pain is very bad but try to avoid it if I can, was on opoids for 20 years till I weaned myself off them. I have a bike machine I can peddle for short periods of time and do walk but need to be on even ground but we had to buy a quad bike to enable me to get around our land(seperate blocks) and only walk when on the ground around the trees. Knees are getting bad too but again age tends to do that, the walking does help and we bought a walking machine so I can walk more at home,I also try various sitting excercises as well, my back restricts me but without any injuries you should be able to do more than me, look up sitting excercises as they can help build up your legs/knees etc with reasonably gentle work but walking does tend to be the best excercise, painful mornings are just something we need to adjust too as we age.

Sadly once I venture out of my house gate onto the road, the local pack of dogs just make walking or cycling both difficult and some times dangerous

21 hours ago, dddave said:

As I approached 80 I started to get the same kind of aches and pains OP describes. Over the previous year I had started doing more walking and exercises.

Long story short, some online research showed that some of the "old school" exercises I was doing, such as stretching down to touch toes, did more harm than good. Also, that at my age, most exercises should be done slowly with fewer reps.

I'd suggest OP do some concentrated research as to which exercises are best for his situation.

Not that I no longer have aches & pains...get rid of one, find another. Part of the adventure of ageing

Do you / have you ever taken any supplements or commercial drugs to help with your aches and pains

20 hours ago, D Peter said:

Well, Tai-Chi is a good advice.......after rolling out of the bed.

Take a spoonful of Tumeric/Curcuma daily, helps perfectly to reduce the pain at least.

During my previous internet search , I did keep seeing the word ‘’ Tumeric ‘’ being mentioned, but there was so much conflicting advice about using Tumeric , that it became a bit confusing .

19 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

#1 answer to your concern is stretching.

I don't wear thongs/jandles et al. so I always wear almost invisible socks. Sitting on the steps and grunting as I put them on every time I leave the house but I am stretching as I do so.

I always sit up before getting out of bed. Exercises the abs.

The back is more difficult as you will need to hang from something. I don't have anything so when in the shower I try to raise my arms as high as possible alternating arms to pull the other.

There are many ways to stretch when doing routine tasks.

Thanks, I was hoping that first I could just take some sort of supplement to help with my constant daily aches and pains, then when I was feeling a bit better , move on to some form of light stretching

17 hours ago, Presnock said:

after 60 or so the body ceases to produce collagen...you might check which collagen and dosage produces nutrients for joints.

Cheers , I also saw while looking on the internet the word ‘’ collagen ‘’ but again the majority of the recommendations were from advertising company’s . Locating the right size / dosing advice , seemed a bit vague .

17 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I started taking it 2 years ago, and ran out a little while back, but will start again when I visit my family in November. The ones I took were Types 1,2 and 3, for joints, gastro, skin and hair.

I would love to hear a bit more about you using collagen ( brand / frequency of use / dosage size, Etc.

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Age 70 here, joint pains have mostly gone now I smoke 0.5gm of mostly indica cannabis before bed every night.

Sadly I don't smoke, but I would love to give cannabis a try.

6 hours ago, papa al said:

Glycine

Vitamin D3/K2

Thanks, I'm now going to check them out.

No magic pill mate, you have to keep it moving.

For some osteoarthritis in my knee, right now, our health insurance has an interactive program I follow on an ipad with specific exercises, it's working, the tightness in my knee is slowly subsiding. Better flexibility due to the exercises.

Find some super hot interactive yoga lady with an exercise program, do it on your own schedule.

Before you ingest anything I'd try 5000 steps + stretching.

You may get more aches and pains with the increased exercise though. Stretch it out in the morning

Reduce sitting

Check your posture

17 minutes ago, Priorexpat said:

No magic pill mate, you have to keep it moving.

A fact for sure. The OP seems to have an excuse to avoid any exercise. Until that state of mine is changed nothing will change. Get up early and get out and walk, its that simple.

Swimming! go for an hour swim daily - takes the weight off the joints - stimulates many body processes.

The stiffness in the morning is normal- the body is dormant all night. try NOT getting out of bed immediately- let everything wake up, do gentle foot extensions and ankle rolls before getting out of bed. Wake things up first. 🙂

I find laying down on the sofa is great for all kinds of aches and pains 🤔

1 hour ago, Captain Disorderly said:

I would love to hear a bit more about you using collagen ( brand / frequency of use / dosage size, Etc.

I used a Japanese produced from fish, a powder which included vitamin C which is necessary to get the proper nutrients, 5 grams per day for hair, skin and nails. Really noticed a change after around 5 months especially nails, hair in nose, ears and on top too. Most quality producers include dosage IMHO. I see that there is no "official" dosage but research I read shows 2.5 to 15 grams daily is safe and effective. Recommended that I read by goal is

skin - hydration and elasticity - 2.5-5 grams daily

joint and cartilage - 2.5-10 grams daily

hydrolyzed collagen - 40milligrams of undenatured type II

bone 0- 5 grams

muscle mass an body composition - 15 grams

8-12 week periods, with maybe 4 cycles per year.

However, I am no expert nor medically trained, and only provide what I read on AI sources. I do wish all the best of health in all aspects and happiness especially here in the land of Paradise.

18 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Age 70 here, joint pains have mostly gone now I smoke 0.5gm of mostly indica cannabis before bed every night.

as mentioned before, best solution I find is stretching (full body) daily as well as regular exercise of one's favorite type that one does regularly.

3 hours ago, Captain Disorderly said:

Do you / have you ever taken any supplements or commercial drugs to help with your aches and pains

I've tried a few, quite unscientifically. Glucosamine/chondroitin, Spirulina, Turmeric and a few others, names unremembered. Never felt what I would consider positive effects from any. I try to eat a balanced and varied diet. That seems to give me what I need.