2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

No vaxx has ever saved one life.

But this thread wasn't even really intended to be about vaccines though.

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

No vaxx has ever saved one life. You think pumping toxic filth into yer body, bypassing the natural body defences is gonna do you good? Dear me.

No virus has ever been found. Even the ones grown in petri dishes are not viruses. Just chemicl junk.

As will be evident by now intelligence does not equal common sense. Just read the TT thread if you are not sure. See the difference between AN and TT thinking.

I have over 40 vids on the WWW. My aim is to stop babes, toddlers and infants from being injured by Big Pharma filth.

You can call it toxic filth but it's saved millions with all the proof needed by research. This is an imperfect world with viruses all over, some of which can do harm to healthy bodies. This will never get through to you, so it's best for you to research more so you can see the truth past the lies someone is telling you. Again, I've lived by healthy practices all my life, and even I got H Pylori, so they exist, and if you don't stop H Pylori it can lead to ulcers and cancer.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Millions of people, do not take care of their bodies as well as some others. This is when the body either breaks down itself or allows one of the various viruses to enter it in a weakened condition.

You are partly right Fred.

There are two sides to the health coin. Firstly prevention. and secondly toxicity. Don't want to go over posts that are for all to see on AN. Viruses do not enter the equation what so ever.

There are people that live to 120+ years. There are couples that are sexually active at 100+. These people are attuned to nature. Not slaves to Big Pharma.

Nature is only really interested in two things; survival and reproduction. Our bodies are nature. Nature is us.

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Thank God there are people who devote their lives to researching and developing these medicines to save lives. The only problem is some doctors over prescribing which kills so many each year. I would love to see cancer wiped out in my lifetime and I'm sure it could be if certain groups didn't want to see this done because of a profit loss.

It is amazing how much progress was made when it comes to cure human deseases.

On the other hand I personally would have preferred it, if God would have excluded in his "building plan" 10'000 different "bugs", only here to kill us.

The Old Testament describes a vengeful, jealous God. The New Testament describes a God that loves us. A God that exposes "his beloved children" to 10'000 potential "attackers" ?!?

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are partly right Fred.

There are two sides to the health coin. Firstly prevention. and secondly toxicity. Don't want to go over posts that are for all to see on AN. Viruses do not enter the equation what so ever.

There are people that live to 120+ years. There are couples that are sexually active at 100+. These people are attuned to nature. Not slaves to Big Pharma.

Nature is only really interested in two things; survival and reproduction. Our bodies are nature. Nature is us.

Please do go on. A debate between a medical denier and a guy who believes in ghosts, angels and the paranormal is entertaining.

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But this thread wasn't even really intended to be about vaccines though.

Quite right Sir.

Let's get back to 10,000 diseases. I'll go with that. Name me one and we can debate.

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Please do go on. A debate between a medical denier and a guy who believes in ghosts, angels and the paranormal is entertaining.

That's why I started this tread. Hoping that the 2 opposing views do battle. The entertainment value is higher than endlessly talking about Pattaya Girls. 😊

6 minutes ago, swissie said:

It is amazing how much progress was made when it comes to cure human deseases.

On the other hand I personally would have preferred it, if God would have excluded in his "building plan" 10'000 different "bugs", only here to kill us.

The Old Testament describes a vengeful, jealous God. The New Testament describes a God that loves us. A God that exposes "his beloved children" to 10'000 potential "attackers" ?!?

Nature loves us. We, along with cats, elephants and ducks, are its children.

Nature is only interested in survival and reproduction. The first of these includes protection. How can we protect our bodies? Make sure it get nutritious food, clean water and fresh air. Secondly, keep toxins out of the body. That includes a whole lot of man-made toxic chemicals, and needless to say Big Pharma medicines,

But we can't stop all the toxics! Not in this modern world. That is true. But a well nourished body will fight off the undesirables in real time. If it can't, or there is too much toxicity, the body has other mechanisms.

17 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Please do go on. A debate between a medical denier and a guy who believes in ghosts, angels and the paranormal is entertaining.

He's not just a medical denier.

He's also a disease denier, which makes him even more interesting.

Just now, save the frogs said:

He's not just a medical denier.

He's also a disease denier, which makes him even more interesting.

Indeed I am Sir. We have Xed swords on this many times, and long may those bouts continue.

I'm not saying there is not sickness, illness or poor health. Of course there is. But saying the word 'disease' leads one to think there are germs out there just waiting to pounce at every opportunity.

Good, and indeed bad health, is more simple than trying to find out which one of 33k viruses cause one, or more, of10k diseases.

Dagger in yer back. axe buried in yer head. Foot been savaged by a leopard get to A & E.

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Good, and indeed bad health, is more simple than trying to find out which one of 33k viruses cause one, or more, of10k diseases.

Dagger in yer back. axe buried in yer head. Foot been savaged by a leopard get to A & E.

More nonsense from the King of Spin.

No one claimed all diseases are caused by viruses.

And axe in your head is not the only reason you would need to go see a doctor.

I suppose you will deny that Type 1 Diabetes requires medical intervention?

How do you have a signature? I thought they removed them.

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

More nonsense from the King of Spin.

No one claimed all diseases are caused by viruses.

And axe in your head is not the only reason you would need to go see a doctor.

I suppose you will deny that Type 1 Diabetes requires medical intervention?

How do you have a signature? I thought they removed them.

I did say a dagger in the back was good reason too. And being mauled by an over-grown pussy cat.

Signatures: Yes! For those of us in the know. The enlightened ones.

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I did say a dagger in the back was good reason too. And being mauled by an over-grown pussy cat.

Surrender your shaky hypothesis, boy.

Before we make you look bad.

Just now, save the frogs said:

Surrender your shaky hypothesis, boy.

Before we make you look bad.

Let me ask you a question Sir!

Are you familiar with the 'elephants cause rain' theory?

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Nature loves us. We, along with cats, elephants and ducks, are its children.

Nature is only interested in survival and reproduction. The first of these includes protection. How can we protect our bodies? Make sure it get nutritious food, clean water and fresh air. Secondly, keep toxins out of the body. That includes a whole lot of man-made toxic chemicals, and needless to say Big Pharma medicines,

But we can't stop all the toxics! Not in this modern world. That is true. But a well nourished body will fight off the undesirables in real time. If it can't, or there is too much toxicity, the body has other mechanisms.

Life is "toxic". Next to the 10'00 "bugs" there is more: Alcohol, smoking, having fun in general.

Plus the air we breathe and the water we drink. All increasingly toxic.

We have to start somewhere: LET'S STOP HAVING FUN. It's all highly toxic. By doing this, we will prolong our life by at least 3 months.

Life is toxic, the God's wanted it that way. Appearantly.

15 minutes ago, swissie said:

Life is "toxic". Next to the 10'00 "bugs" there is more: Alcohol, smoking, having fun in general.

Plus the air we breathe and the water we drink. All increasingly toxic.

We have to start somewhere: LET'S STOP HAVING FUN. It's all highly toxic. By doing this, we will prolong our life by at least 3 months.

Life is toxic, the God's wanted it that way. Appearantly.

You are not wrong there Sir. But certain lifestyles can be more toxic than others.

For instance: if you smoke, you should not do so whilst laying down behind a two-stroke m/c exhaust while it it being revved up. If you do, then expect a bad bout of flu later.

Like to go skying? Best not to do it naked. Could get a chill, and/or attract bears.

Not difficult. It's all common sense really.

Edited September 22Sep 22 by Stiddle Mump

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are not wrong there Sir. But certain lifestyles can be more toxic than others.

For instance: if you smoke, you should not do so whilst laying down behind a two-stroke m/c exhaust while it it being revved up. If you do, then expect a bad bout of flu later.

Like to go skying? Best not to do it naked. Could get a chill, and/or attract bears.

Not difficult. It's all common sense.

Following that logic, I should not go swimming, because I don't have gills. Please continue, this is better than Monty Python....

11 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Following that logic, I should not go swimming, because I don't have gills. Please continue, this is better than Monty Python....

Of course you can go swimming. But in an appropriate manner. First go to the butcher and buy a leg of pork. Before you dive in throw the leg into the river and observe. If you see crocs fighting over the meat, move along the bank a little.

Life is simply common sense. If you want to be sexually active at 110 then take care now.

Edited September 22Sep 22 by Stiddle Mump
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For better or for worse, I am the author.

Must confess. I am a bit dissapointed. I was hoping the the "believers" would come to the defense of God with regard that the God that loves us but at the same time bombarding us with 10'000 "attackers".

Even past strong defenders of God have fallen silent. (fredwiggy ?)

Of course, under any circumstances it would be hard to explain how a loving God would subject his beloved children to a life in mysery with the help of microsopic villans that don't even have a brain.

38 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Of course you can go swimming. But in an appropriate manner. First go to the butcher and buy a leg of pork. Before you dive in throw the leg into the river and observe. If you see crocs fighting over the meat, move along the bank a little.

Life is simply common sense. If you want to be sexually active at 110 then take care now.

I can confirm. Over centuries people have thrown meat into European rivers to be eaten by Crocodiles only to be eaten by the same Crocodiles afterwards. Surpassing the death rate of the bubonic plague by far.

Other people went the other way. They killed all the Crocodiles in Europe and vaccinated themselver against Smallpox. As a result, Smallpox is eliminated from the word.

But in case you ever go to Egypt, it is still advisable to throw some meat in the Nile before you go swimming there. Latest surveys show that modern day Egyptian Crocodiles prefer MacDonalds Hamburgers.

57 minutes ago, swissie said:

For better or for worse, I am the author.

Must confess. I am a bit dissapointed. I was hoping the the "believers" would come to the defense of God with regard that the God that loves us but at the same time bombarding us with 10'000 "attackers".

Even past strong defenders of God have fallen silent. (fredwiggy ?)

Of course, under any circumstances it would be hard to explain how a loving God would subject his beloved children to a life in mysery with the help of microsopic villans that don't even have a brain.

Nature is god. Nature loves us. We being here is proof. But! We mess with nature at our peril.

People were on the earth for quite some time before Big Pharma arrived. One million years? Wonder how our ancestors survived? Well, they did survive - some to 150 - by sensible adherence to nature's principles.

There were those that were sexually active at well over 100. One couple got it on when both were 120. Yes! Up to a few years ago it was the norm. This was only 50 years ago Now wouldn't that be great if that was the norm now!?

They didn't need anything to stop the germs getting to them. Cause they knew germs were their friend and so embraced them. They respected and learnt from nature. If we are to get back to those days of living to well over 100, we must change our ways.

If you can keep your head, when others around you are losing theirs; you could finish up the tallest.

Edited September 22Sep 22 by Stiddle Mump

53 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Nature is god. Nature loves us. We being here is proof. But! We mess with nature at our peril.

People were on the earth for quite some time before Big Pharma arrived. One million years? Wonder how our ancestors survived? Well, they did survive - some to 150 - by sensible adherence to nature's principles.

There were those that were sexually active at well over 100. One couple got it on when both were 120. Yes! Up to a few years ago it was the norm. This was only 50 years ago Now wouldn't that be great if that was the norm now!?

They didn't need anything to stop the germs getting to them. Cause they knew germs were their friend and so embraced them. They respected and learnt from nature. If we are to get back to those days of living to well over 100, we must change our ways.

If you can keep your head, when others around you are losing theirs; you could finish up the tallest.

Nature is not good for us humans. Parachute yourself into the Canadian wilderness during winter without modern equippement. You will be dead within 1 week.

Otherwise, I have never believed that "aliens" would ever have reached our small blue planet. So, where do you come from ?

You can not possibly have earthly origins.

8 minutes ago, swissie said:

Nature is not good for us humans. Parachute yourself into the Canadian wilderness during winter without modern equippement. You will be dead within 1 week.

Otherwise, I have never believed that "aliens" would ever have reached our small blue planet. So, where do you come from ?

You can not possibly have earthly origins.

What?! Oh come now Swissie. Couldn't survive?

Give me a fur coat, a bow and arrow and a trap to catch a bear or two and it would be apiece of cake. For me anyway. Not sure about other AN members. Did you not see Rita Tush and Oliver in the Trap?

Easy peasy. Lemon squeezy.

If you can keep your head, when others around you are losing theirs; you could finish up the tallest.

Edited September 22Sep 22 by Stiddle Mump

9 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are partly right Fred.

There are two sides to the health coin. Firstly prevention. and secondly toxicity. Don't want to go over posts that are for all to see on AN. Viruses do not enter the equation what so ever.

There are people that live to 120+ years. There are couples that are sexually active at 100+. These people are attuned to nature. Not slaves to Big Pharma.

Nature is only really interested in two things; survival and reproduction. Our bodies are nature. Nature is us.

No, I'm completely right. If you still need to understand, the Blue Zone people live longer on average than all others on earth. The use vaccines.

10'000+ deseases can affect humans

He's been to the desert on a hoarse with no name 😜

in the desert you can't remember your name

9 hours ago, swissie said:

It is amazing how much progress was made when it comes to cure human deseases.

On the other hand I personally would have preferred it, if God would have excluded in his "building plan" 10'000 different "bugs", only here to kill us.

The Old Testament describes a vengeful, jealous God. The New Testament describes a God that loves us. A God that exposes "his beloved children" to 10'000 potential "attackers" ?!?

I've mentioned this many times. We aren't living forever. Most die by 85 or so. Forever in heaven doesn't compare to that. This isn't a perfect world and wasn't meant to be paradise. If it was, people wouldn't need God as selfishness is a human trait. Diseases might just have been put here to see humans helping other humans. This world isn't supposed to go on forever, and it's size guarantees that. This is a plan some can't understand.

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

What?! Oh come now Swissie. Couldn't survive?

Give me a fur coat, a bow and arrow and a trap to catch a bear or two and it would be apiece of cake. For me anyway. Not sure about other AN members. Did you not see Rita Tush and Oliver in the Trap?

Easy peasy. Lemon squeezy.

If you can keep your head, when others around you are losing theirs; you could finish up the tallest.

A fur coat won't keep you alive in frigid weather. You need a fire, which means knowing how to start one and the materials needed, if only dry wood, grasses and a flint. A bow might be enough to kill a bear if you can hit it with a killing shot from downwind, but you'll need a good knife to cut it up, along with that fire to cook the meat. People die every year in 40 degree weather from hypothermia, and below freezing is a death sentence unless you can create warmth and have shelter. I've been hunting 50 years and know how to make shelters and build a fire, and I wouldn't want to be left out in frigid weather.

8 hours ago, swissie said:

Must confess. I am a bit dissapointed. I was hoping the the "believers" would come to the defense of God with regard that the God that loves us but at the same time bombarding us with 10'000 "attackers".

No, maybe God does want you to do well and thrive.

But maybe The Devil is trying to kill you.

There really aren't that many diseases. The 4 big ones are heart disease, diabetes, cancer, and dementia.

The root cause of all of them is mostly diet.

The Devil introduced a bunch of foods into the human diet that do not belong in the human body and human beings became addicted to these foods.

You never heard of the Devil?

Go watch Angel Heart.

On 9/21/2026 at 10:25 PM, swissie said:

This is a clear indication that the God's love us intensly. Or there were massive "construction flaws" from the very beginning, that the God's won't admit.

If you believe that than you would be believing anything what they are trying to Brainwash with .Like Religion and Politicians trying to stuff down your neck.

6 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

A fur coat won't keep you alive in frigid weather. You need a fire, which means knowing how to start one and the materials needed, if only dry wood, grasses and a flint. A bow might be enough to kill a bear if you can hit it with a killing shot from downwind, but you'll need a good knife to cut it up, along with that fire to cook the meat. People die every year in 40 degree weather from hypothermia, and below freezing is a death sentence unless you can create warmth and have shelter. I've been hunting 50 years and know how to make shelters and build a fire, and I wouldn't want to be left out in frigid weather.

Yes of course one would want a knife. Didn't you say 'modern' stuff? Like laptops, leccy cars and designer handbags..

Just have to adapt to the environment. Same in the desert. Have to know where to get water. Have to study insects and lizards. At night, look at the starts. Ears open for sounds.

Lighting a fire eh. I learned that in der Cubs back in the day. Easy peasy.