Jingthing Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) The yellow shirt thing is so minor an issue that the very fact you harp on about it seems odd to me. I see it as taking part in something or a small step towards fitting in. Fitting in? Hmmmmmm. Well, are you an immigrant here? My visa says non-immigrant with no path towards immigrant status, which I would like. To me, this means facing reality AS IT IS, not as I imagine it is or want it to be in my wishful imagination. I have no problem with people making different decisions and agree it isn't a big deal, either way. I do understand the many reasons people would want to wear these special shirts; all I am saying is it doesn't feel right to me personally. We have all seen people wear clothes that they don't feel reflect who they are. The beach bum in a three piece suit looks ridiculous because he doesn't know how to wear a three piece suit and feel comfortable in it. A royal yellow shirt does not reflect me, it isn't me, I am not a subject of the Thai King ... Maybe some of you can pull that off and feel comfortable doing it, more power to you! Edited December 4, 2007 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onethailand Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Aside from the fact that you are showing respect for a King who genuinely deserves the love and respect and loyalty he receives from the Thai people: 1. My wife is happy 2. My kids are happy 3. My staff are happy 4. Even strangers are happy Why in the world would I not want to wear yellow on Mondays, and tomorrow? I've even got a new one for today thanks to my wife who ran to the market twice to get it changed... Long live the King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 If I don't wear yellow tomorow, she willl just harp on at me until I change just foe some peace and quiet. I suspect a few others too would get nagged. Out of respect for HM I will wear Yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkGently Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Jingthing, come on now. Thailand is not just about visas and stamps in a passport. Do you not consider Thailand to be more about the people you live amongst? No doubt most of the country will be covered in yellow tomorrow and just a small part of it will be on me. You have stated that you are an American. Nothing wrong with that in anyway, but maybe this is part of the reason why you can't see 'it'. As an Englishman I have grown up with the Union Jack being displayed at times of Royal import. I recall watching Queen Elizabeth's walkabout on her 80th and was moved by groups of tourists and other non-white people in Britain (I can't be sure of their immigration status as they were on TV) waving flags and clearly enjoying being part of a celebration. However, Americans don't have a Royal family and I doubt people celebrate the birthday of President Bush. I may be wrong and my point is not meant to be rude towards the many fine Americans here in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Dirk, you are correct. Americans are educated to feel proud not to have a monarchy. That doesn't mean we disrespect countries that do have monarchies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Fitting in? Hmmmmmm.Well, are you an immigrant here? My visa says non-immigrant with no path towards immigrant status, which I would like. Personally, I don't see fitting in as some kind of transaction - that "they" give me immigrant status first and then I'll try to fit in. I see it as one aspect - a major aspect - of having a happy life here and having smooth interpersonal relationships. In other words, fitting in is something I do for my own benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Personally, I don't see fitting in as some kind of transaction - that "they" give me immigrant status first and then I'll try to fit in. I see it as one aspect - a major aspect - of having a happy life here and having smooth interpersonal relationships. In other words, fitting in is something I do for my own benefit. To clarify, being a REAL immigrant is NOT POSSIBLE for me here, and I think, most of the farangs here. If I was on a possible path towards that, I would feel differently. I respect how you feel, perfectly valid for you. Back to the shirts, do people think NOT wearing yellow shirts on a big day like the King's birthday is disrespectful? I hope not, because I do respect the King and all the Thai people who love their King. Edited December 4, 2007 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Well currently in Oz at the moment, but I would wear the yellow if there just as a mark of respect. I note Orchis wore pink today and her co-workers appreciated it. The trend to follow the colours is followed more by women than men, but even most women don't follow the daily routine. For those who are interested: Sunday: red Monday: yellow Tuesday: pink Wednesday: green Thursday: orange Friday: blue Saturday: mauve/purple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) I also feel it is a personal choice whether you do or not. My choice is, YES. I have been wearing yellow shirts every Monday for over a year now, and I have no problem with wearing yellow on Monday's, and I even enjoy wearing pink on Tuesday's! Certainly those around me and living in my area have no problem with what I wear, and as Camerata mentioned, it is noticed and complimented. I do get an odd look every now and then, but these are all from foreigners. With that, I could really care less. Edited December 4, 2007 by frodo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 No I shall not OK I'm will not be in Thailand torrow - If I was in Thailand tomorrow? No, I would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenbead Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I was encouraged by my employer to wear yellow on Monday and again today, which I did. Tomorrow I will be at home with my kids and trying to get some work finished up in time for Thursday. I will not be wearing yellow tomorrow. I do respect the King but I don't feel that I have to or should wear yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampstead Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Well currently in Oz at the moment, but I would wear the yellow if there just as a mark of respect. I note Orchis wore pink today and her co-workers appreciated it. The trend to follow the colours is followed more by women than men, but even most women don't follow the daily routine. For those who are interested:Sunday: red Monday: yellow Tuesday: pink Wednesday: green Thursday: orange Friday: blue Saturday: mauve/purple You beat me to the listings of daily colours As this is very much first and foremost a thai budhist tradition, then i wish all the millions of thais who were born on a monday all the best. I never wear yellow on a monday, or any other day, or any of the colours on their assigned days under this old tradition just a choice we all have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legag Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 People from all walks of life, wearing yellow t-shirts in honour of His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej gathered outside Bangkok's Chitralada Palace to glimpse the monarch on Tuesday as the lavish celebrations on the eve of his birthday begin across the kingdom. Sourse: Bangkokpost.com Long Live The King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldcrush Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Anyone know where I can get a t-shirt that doesnt bobble in the wash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Should we all wear yellow tomorrow to show 'our' respect to the Thai King? we don't have to wear coloured clothes to show our respect. i am convinced that this is not what His Majesty would want. he is in a certain way a down to earth monarch and i cherish the memory when i had the honour to answer for a few minutes his personal technical questions (Switzerland more than three decades ago). respect comes from the heart and not from a shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legag Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Respect comes from the heart and not from a shirt. True. True. How about this? If you have it, wear it if you don't, you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.s Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 The yellow shirt thing is so minor an issue that the very fact you harp on about it seems odd to me. I see it as taking part in something or a small step towards fitting in. Fitting in? Hmmmmmm. Well, are you an immigrant here? My visa says non-immigrant with no path towards immigrant status, which I would like. To me, this means facing reality AS IT IS, not as I imagine it is or want it to be in my wishful imagination. I have no problem with people making different decisions and agree it isn't a big deal, either way. I do understand the many reasons people would want to wear these special shirts; all I am saying is it doesn't feel right to me personally. We have all seen people wear clothes that they don't feel reflect who they are. The beach bum in a three piece suit looks ridiculous because he doesn't know how to wear a three piece suit and feel comfortable in it. A royal yellow shirt does not reflect me, it isn't me, I am not a subject of the Thai King ... Maybe some of you can pull that off and feel comfortable doing it, more power to you! so you are just plain bitter? get over it. wear yellow or dont, nobody really cares, just get off your soapbox for a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceBlondie Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 What ever happened to that ancient slogan, "When in Thailand, do as the Thais do"? For goodness sakes, Monday has always been yellow shirt day here. Tuesdays, pink. Tomorrow will be Father's Day, and yellow is the most appropriate color. I have learned to wai, to say "Sawadee krhap" and "krahp kuhn krhap." I have learned to remove my shoes at the door, unless I'm teaching. Learned not to point with my fingers or my feet, and not to climb Buddha images. Welcome to Thailand. It matters not that they only grant me a retirement visa one year at a time. Happy Birthday to the King. Long live the King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisspursbkk1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Should we all wear yellow tomorrow to show 'our' respect to the Thai King? I will if the bars are open as its my birthday tommorow and i find it very selfish to have them all closed as some my like to go out and party. Power to the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundman Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 If you are in Thailand, wear a yellow shirt toworrow. It is a sign of respect for local customs & Thai people's core beliefs. HRH is revered by the Thai people & as an individual person you will gain much "face" in a Thai person's eyes if you show your support for their monarch. Long live the king. Cheers, Soundman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchrdam Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Yes I will wear yellow for sure. By now I have a hole range of colored shirts and is I understand my wife well there is for every day a color. Tomorrow is a exception on the rule and in respect for the King I will wear yellow. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Jingthing, come on now. Thailand is not just about visas and stamps in a passport. Do you not consider Thailand to be more about the people you live amongst? Agreed. I will be wearing my yellow T-shirt tomorrow because of my respect for the King, as will 99% of the people I will see. I think the whole country will be a mass of yellow. If jingthing doesn't wear a yellow shirt, maybe tomorrow he'll be contributing yet again to his "Do you hear the word 'Farang' used by Thais in a derogatory way" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Respect comes from the heart and not from a shirt. True. True. How about this? If you have it, wear it if you don't, you don't. no objection of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howtoescape Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Ive a mate who every year gets excited about his Birthday despite now being 35, and every year i say the same thing if i couldnt care less about my own birthday why am i going to want to celebrate yours.......... for me the same rules apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendix Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Interesting thread, not so much for the subject matter but the responses it has drawn out. Frankly, I see it almost as an affront to my hosts NOT to wear yellow tomorrow, and those who are consciously deciding not to need to take a good look at their motives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Interesting thread, not so much for the subject matter but the responses it has drawn out.Frankly, I see it almost as an affront to my hosts NOT to wear yellow tomorrow, and those who are consciously deciding not to need to take a good look at their motives. You are reading my mind. I before had asked here (I think it was deleted) if people thought it was disrespectful not to wear yellow (or pink) tomorrow? Bendix, thanks for bringing up this subject again. I don't think you are correct. I think some Thai people would appreciate farangs in yellow, and some wouldn't, so we should just wear, or not wear, whatever makes us feel comfortable. I get a chill when there is such pressure to conform the way you are suggesting. One poster said when in Thailand, do as the Thais. Really? I will be wearing my yellow T-shirt tomorrow because of my respect for the King, as will 99% of the people I will see. I think the whole country will be a mass of yellow. Again, do people think the contrary, that NOT wearing the colors is actively showing disrespect? You might compare it to movie theatres, of course I stand for the King's song, is this the same kind of thing? If it is, that is news to me. Edited December 4, 2007 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLeung Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 the truth is that Thais really don't care if you wear the shirt or not. You think you are going to gain some huge amount of respect for wearing it? Do you see the bored looks on their face when they play that song for the ten millionth time? Not everyone wears the tshirt. Not everyone is obsessed with that type of ideology. Many of you guys want to pretend you are a part of some 1950's sub culture because you have an elevated social status in this country or something. Like everyone is watching you. They arent. You are just another farang, whether you wear the shirt or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I shall be wearing my Yellow T Shirt. Maybe Jingthing will be wearing his American Swastika Shirt, while wondering why the locals call him Farang in a derogatory way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendix Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Many of you guys want to pretend you are a part of some 1950's sub culture because you have an elevated social status in this country or something. Like everyone is watching you. They arent. You are just another farang, whether you wear the shirt or not. Says the 45 year old man who thinks a 19 year old student should fall over in gratitude because he asked her out, and who measures his worth in what he can benchpress . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLeung Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Many of you guys want to pretend you are a part of some 1950's sub culture because you have an elevated social status in this country or something. Like everyone is watching you. They arent. You are just another farang, whether you wear the shirt or not. Says the 45 year old man who thinks a 19 year old student should fall over in gratitude because he asked her out, and who measures his worth in what he can benchpress . . . . It was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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