Australian Aged Pension

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, rhodie said:

So you think stopping overseas pensions after 4 weeks will save less than $20M a year? Go back to school scaremonger! They are talking about the current scheme of 6 weeks being reduced to 4 weeks for reducing some payments.

 

Another brain fart from KH.

Another member posted it on another thread.  I posted the direct link to their costings. 

 

The words are, "Overseas eligibility for social services payments – reduce to four weeks."  Now, if you think that reads just for pension supplements, then that's up to you, but the words "social services payments" with an emphasis on the word "payments" as opposed to "supplements" reads different to me. 

 

Google "Dutton to cut pensions after 4 weeks if overseas" and you will see the Facebook pages of some Labor MP's pushing it out on their social media.   They are at the top of page 1 on that Google search.  

 

The title of one is, "Peter Dutton will stop your age pension if you go overseas."  That's from Steve Georganas MP who holds the seat of  Adelaide.  Now, maybe, just maybe, do you think he's well informed about it before he goes public? 

 

If you think it's just the supplements that will stop after 4 weeks instead of 6 weeks, good for you, but I would call your "interpretation" a brain fart.  

 

[Nemises]

17 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Playing the poster and not the post. 

 

Any comment on the Liberal's policy?  Perhaps you think it will only apply to guys like Paul Hogan. 

Still waiting for your previous, relentless scaremongering campaign about non resident tax rates to be legislated. How much longer you think?  🤣🤣🤣

[KhunHeineken]

12 minutes ago, Nemises said:

Still waiting for your previous, relentless scaremongering campaign about non resident tax rates to be legislated. How much longer you think?  🤣🤣🤣

The previous Liberal government proposed them, and the current Labor government DID NOT bin them.

 

  https://www.afr.com/policy/tax-and-super/assistant-treasurer-flags-new-tax-residency-rules-20220826-p5bd1v

 

"Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones told an Australian Chamber of Commerce event in Singapore this week the new rules for deciding Australian tax residency were in “the government’s in-tray” ahead of the October budget, and the day limit was “being looked at." 

 

It appears it's not if, just when, and the who doesn't really matter. 

 

I don't know how much longer, but in my opinion the proposed changes haven't just gone away.  The current laws are 90 years old and are no longer fit for purpose.  It's only a matter of time before they are modernized. 

 

Geez, Thailand even has the 180 day law, with many other countries having a similar tax residency model, but you seem to think Australia will never bring in a 183 day law.  It's laughable.  

[KhunHeineken]

2 hours ago, rhodie said:

So you think stopping overseas pensions after 4 weeks will save less than $20M a year? Go back to school scaremonger! They are talking about the current scheme of 6 weeks being reduced to 4 weeks for reducing some payments.

 

Another brain fart from KH.

Amanda Rishworth MP Insta page. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJG40UbzgPz/

 

"Dutton will stop your age pension if you go overseas."

 

 

[rhodie]

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Another member posted it on another thread.  I posted the direct link to their costings. 

 

The words are, "Overseas eligibility for social services payments – reduce to four weeks."  Now, if you think that reads just for pension supplements, then that's up to you, but the words "social services payments" with an emphasis on the word "payments" as opposed to "supplements" reads different to me. 

 

Google "Dutton to cut pensions after 4 weeks if overseas" and you will see the Facebook pages of some Labor MP's pushing it out on their social media.   They are at the top of page 1 on that Google search.  

 

The title of one is, "Peter Dutton will stop your age pension if you go overseas."  That's from Steve Georganas MP who holds the seat of  Adelaide.  Now, maybe, just maybe, do you think he's well informed about it before he goes public? 

 

If you think it's just the supplements that will stop after 4 weeks instead of 6 weeks, good for you, but I would call your "interpretation" a brain fart.  

 

 As I said, go back to school. $25,000 times 800 pensioners equals $20M. So, according to there are only 800 pensioners living overseas. Haha. Caught out as a scaremonger again. Do you sleep at night? I doubt it.

 

KH caught out again. Will he ever learn from his mommy's basement? I doubt it! You are a fool!

[Olmate]

ABC 730 REPORT last.nite, oppositionHome Affairs Minister.denies.its.costings despite it.being  included, as shown previous.. Now.on.Reddit

[LosLobo]

58 minutes ago, Olmate said:

ABC 730 REPORT last.nite, oppositionHome Affairs Minister.denies.its.costings despite it.being  included, as shown previous.. Now.on.Reddit

Link to the 7:30pm Report....(if you have VPN)...

Australia Votes - Election Eve : ABC iview starts at 13:50:

https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2526H003S00

James Paterson for Dutton says Labour is lying ......yet it is in Liberal  Policies.

The policy is vague with the less than $20M saving yet Dutton has never clarified it.

Personally I don't trust Dutton and if he wins the door is open to go whole hog.

[Lacessit]

18 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

 

 

The words are, "Overseas eligibility for social services payments – reduce to four weeks."  Now, if you think that reads just for pension supplements, then that's up to you, but the words "social services payments" with an emphasis on the word "payments" as opposed to "supplements" reads different to me. 

 

 

Of course you would read the worst possible interpretation into what is said, because that's meat and drink to your malevolent nature.

 

This is an Australian Aged Pension thread. You do not receive a Age Pension.

 

Why the moderators have not banned you as an evil troll is beyond my comprehesion.

[KhunHeineken]

15 hours ago, rhodie said:

 As I said, go back to school. $25,000 times 800 pensioners equals $20M. So, according to there are only 800 pensioners living overseas. Haha. Caught out as a scaremonger again. Do you sleep at night? I doubt it.

 

KH caught out again. Will he ever learn from his mommy's basement? I doubt it! You are a fool!

Can you quote the post where I have said there are only 800 pensioners living overseas?  

 

At any given time there are about 1 million Australians living overseas.

 

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/when-you-live-outside-australia?context=60040

 

"At any time there’s around one million Australians living and working overseas."

 

Now, of course not all of the 1 million Aussies living overseas are retired and receiving a pension, but it would be way more than 800 out of 1 million.  For a start, I believe Aussie retirees are in their thousands in Thailand and Bali, then you have all the other countries around the world.  Many are receiving the aged pension. 

 

I think you have caught yourself out, making up figures and then posting as if I posted them.  

 

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Of course you would read the worst possible interpretation into what is said

Why not?  We are talking about politics and politicians.  I don't trust them.

 

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

This is an Australian Aged Pension thread. You do not receive a Age Pension.

So what?

 

I may apply for the pension in the future.  My posts are on topic. 

 

You are on a part pension, not the full pension.  Does that mean you can only part post? 

 

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Why the moderators have not banned you as an evil troll is beyond my comprehesion.

I see you are trying to bait me again. 

 

Go back to the USA Forum and troll them there.  We even had Americans come to the Australia Forum complaining about you.  

 

Why you haven't been banned is beyond my comprehension.   

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

The policy is vague with the less than $20M saving yet Dutton has never clarified it.

Personally I don't trust Dutton and if he wins the door is open to go whole hog.

I agree. 

 

The wording conflicts with the dollar figure.  So on that basis, if he was to be elected, he could spin that any way he wanted.  He could go "whole hog" as you say and actually cut off pensions if outside of Australia for more than 4 weeks. 

 

I don't think Dutton will get in, but I don't trust any of them. 

 

Regardless of who gets in,  their spending promises was enough to make S&P issue a warning that Australia is at risk of losing its AAA rating.  If that happens, it's 15 baht to the  Aussie dollar. 

[LosLobo]

[KhunHeineken]

39 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

More of the "same same" for the next 4 years. 

[Olmate]

13 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

More of the "same same" for the next 4 years. 

From you, that is a shame.. 

 

Loser too.... it seems! 😭😭😭

[rhodie]

18 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Can you quote the post where I have said there are only 800 pensioners living overseas?  

 

At any given time there are about 1 million Australians living overseas.

 

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/when-you-live-outside-australia?context=60040

 

"At any time there’s around one million Australians living and working overseas."

 

Now, of course not all of the 1 million Aussies living overseas are retired and receiving a pension, but it would be way more than 800 out of 1 million.  For a start, I believe Aussie retirees are in their thousands in Thailand and Bali, then you have all the other countries around the world.  Many are receiving the aged pension. 

 

I think you have caught yourself out, making up figures and then posting as if I posted them.  

 

More trolling from the scaremonger FOOL. Leave your mother's basement and go back to school. 

You implied that there are only 800 pensioners overseas by accepting the saving of only $20Mil. 

KH the eternal scaremonger.

[Lacessit]

14 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

More of the "same same" for the next 4 years. 

If you post your address, we'll club together to send you a box of Kleenex.

[Olmate]

28 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

If you post your address, we'll club together to send you a box of Kleenex.

'Wet Wipes' I reckon! 😭

[Niftynev24]

On 3/20/2025 at 11:49 PM, scorecard said:

 

Some points I  can share some details , perhaps you know these items already:

 

- You must be physically in Australia to get a CRN (Centrelink Reference Number), unless you already have one. 

- You must be physically in Australia the day you lodge your application for the OAP (Note: You can lodge your OAP application at a C'Link office (that's what I did and they were very thorough, helpful and polite. Or you can lodge your OPA application by email or by post, C.Link will check the always live immigration records to establish your location at the date / time you lodge the application).

- At same CLink visit you can prove your identity: passport, birth certificate, Thai plastic drivers license with embedded photo and your full name in English, Plus one other plastic ID card with photo embedded.

- I was very lucky, my OAP was approved 16 days after I lodged the OAP application at the local C'Link office.

 

There's a toll free tel number from Thailand to C'Link in Australia. 0018006114136 or could be 0018006114136.

 

I've used this number many times, always answered quickly, good listeners, clear focused answers every time. They don't bite but as always don't reveal more personal info than needed.

 

Note that all calls to C'link are recorded and if needed they do go back to earlier calls if needed.

 

Can I suggest, make a list of questions and give them a call to get clear answers direct from C.Link 

 

Good luck.

 

 

 

Hi mate, I presented my papers on Thursday, all went well she said my decision will be made between the 30th June and 7th July, very polite young girl took a lot of copies and was glad I filled out my pension application incl seperated under one roof and my assets details.

Just sit back and wait for the decision, thanks for any help received on here much appreciated 👍 

[scorecard]

55 minutes ago, Niftynev24 said:

Hi mate, I presented my papers on Thursday, all went well she said my decision will be made between the 30th June and 7th July, very polite young girl took a lot of copies and was glad I filled out my pension application incl seperated under one roof and my assets details.

Just sit back and wait for the decision, thanks for any help received on here much appreciated 👍 

I wrote a response but somehow I've lost it, so start again:

 

Hi Nifty, looks like you're doing OK, best of luck.

 

Following are some points that I learned from my own OAP application and approval. 

 

- Contrary to what some folks believe;

     OAP applications are NOT processed by local CLink offices,

     and applicants cannot request that their local CLink office and / or a

     specific CLink officer process their OAP application.

 

- All OAP applications go, electronically, to the CLink HO computer in Canberra and are processed by computer. A very large % of the applications are 100% 

processed by computer.

     Where there is any confusion to the application questions the application automatically goes to a CLink officer in Canberra. That officer promptly takes whatever action is needed to resolves the situation and get a clear answer and this goes into the Clink processing computer. 

 

Automatic computer processing resumes, until all questions have a clear answer and a decision is made by the computer.

 

My understanding is that for every OAP application, the processing data and the computer decision goes to a senior CLink officer to confirm / dispute the decision of the computer. 

 

All confirmed the OAP applicant is quickly advised of the decision by phone and letter and the next steps proceed to quickly lodge any back payment into the bank account of the applicant (back paid to the date the OAP application was lodged). And the applicant is advised full details of future payments*and the date of the first full payment into the applicant's bank account (the 2 weekly payment cycle).  (* this will of course change every 6 months because of cost of living adjustments.

NOTE: OA Pensioners living abroad using their portability* entitlement receive the full OAP supplement amount .  (* Portability means - can receive their full pension and supplement amount paid automatically into a savings account abroad by 4 weekly <2 fortnights> international bank transfer. This is for life, doesn't need any further contact with CLink.

 

The pensioners savings bank account in Thailand (any country) can be a joint savings account <Mine is self and Thai adult son, either party can sign. CLink don't want any details about who can sign etc.), just tell CLink the bank name, bank address (suburb only), account name (joint names) and account number.)   

 

To get this started ask CLink for the international transfer banking document. They will send this to your e.mail address. Take this form to your Thai savings bank with your passport and your bank book and if it's a joint savings account take the other person with ID.

 

Taking the other joint account owner to the Thai bank is NOT a CLink requirement, some Thai banks use this process, some don't.

 

Your Thai bank will complete the form (takes about 1 minute), a senior bank officer then signs and stamps the  document. The document should include the landline number of the bank, NOT the mobile phone number of a bank officer. 

 

CLink will give you an e.mail address of a Services Australia banking department for you to return the completed banking form. On receipt of your email Service Australia will then call you and slowly / carefully confirm that the bank account number is correct and tell you a date to expect your first 4 weekly payment.

 

NOTE: For every deposit into my K Bank savings joint account I very quickly receive 2  advices from K Bank:

a. An SMS from K Bank with basic details including the amount of Thai Baht just deposited to my joint savings account. 

b. An Email from K bank with same expanded details.

From the information in the email I can see that the money just received has been deposited in Australia for International transfer perhaps 3 or 4 hours before it's in my K bank account. 

 

Good luck and take care.

 

[KhunHeineken]

5 hours ago, Olmate said:

From you, that is a shame.. 

 

Loser too.... it seems! 😭😭😭

It didn't matter if Albo or Dutton won last night, the Australian people were always going to be losers.

[KhunHeineken]

5 hours ago, rhodie said:

You implied that there are only 800 pensioners overseas by accepting the saving of only $20Mil. 

Rubbish. 

 

Show me where I have done that. 

 

You looked at the dollar figure, and not the words.  I looked at the words, as did many Labor MP's who I linked. 

 

In any case, it doesn't matter for the next 4 years, but the Libs have shown their intention to mess with pensioners who are living overseas, one way, or another. 

[KhunHeineken]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

If you post your address, we'll club together to send you a box of Kleenex.

Why do you think I'm crying over the result?

 

As I said, Albo or Dutton, Labor or Liberal, Australia loses. 

 

Both parties will just keep Australia on the same course it's been on for decades, continuing to get into more and more debt. 

[Lacessit]

36 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Rubbish. 

 

Show me where I have done that. 

 

You looked at the dollar figure, and not the words.  I looked at the words, as did many Labor MP's who I linked. 

 

In any case, it doesn't matter for the next 4 years, but the Libs have shown their intention to mess with pensioners who are living overseas, one way, or another. 

How many years have you been predicting the sky will fall in on pensioners living overseas? Another 4 years of your blithering and moaning.

 

This clip is just for you.

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

How many years have you been predicting the sky will fall in on pensioners

 

Nothing to do with the sky falling down. 

 

I have informed all Aussie expats of the proposed changes to tax residency.  There are no exemptions in them, and no change to the non resident tax brackets, thus, relevant to pensioners. 

 

Then, you started trolling, and continue to do so.