track61 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Just curious if there is some specific meaning and/or reasoning many of "youse guys" use these two, what seems to me, fairly ridiculous substitutes for the names of two of our "fairest" (subject to debate) cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmart Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Just curious if there is some specific meaning and/or reasoning many of "youse guys" use these two, what seems to me, fairly ridiculous substitutes for the names of two of our "fairest" (subject to debate) cities. Pretty much English slang, old chap: "I say, will you be heading orf to Bangers this weekend for the rugger match, old boy?" -"Doubtful sir, as I intend to stay in Patters, and a state of inebriation, with a brace of lissome young sluts." Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh101 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Just like you can head off to Singers for the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) Just like you can head off to Singers for the weekend. Seems mainly to apply to locations in SE Asia Examples: Honkers- Hong Kong Yangers- Yangshuo Singers- Singapore Bangers- Bangkok Changers- Chiang Mai Patters- Pattaya For some reason I have not heard Jackers for Jakarta I think of the -ers suffix as originally British schoolboy or university slang. Champers for champagne, blackers for black velvet (Champagne and Gunness mixed.) A variation is -er without the s. Rugger for rugby, soccer for association (football). These aren't malaproprisms, by the way. A malaproprism is using one (usually fancy or learned) word when you really mean to use another. From Mrs. Malaprop, a social-climbing character in the 18th century English play The Rivals (Richard Brinsley Sheridan) who had a habit of doing that. Check out Wiki for wider application of -ers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_%22-er%22 Edited April 25, 2008 by Crossy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardJohnson Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I think people use Patters because they don't know how to pronounce Pattaya properly! Patt ai ya pat e ya paat ya patt a yer Lots of fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Crosser Great explanation of engrish nicknames. It has a southern Hemisphere equivalent, at least for names, where everyone's name can be butchered and therefore everyone can be BMF (best mates forever) usually in the context of rugby of similar. It involves only using last names, and inappropriately shortening then adding Ys onto everything. e.g. Grant Fox becomes Foxy...... e.g. Sean Fitzpatrick becomes Fitzy.... and so on. Using such an approach for place names would occur except that usually these somehow get left out. Marginally less popular is shortening then adding an S: e.g. Anthea becomes Ants Personally I prefer some of the sailing nicknames downunder, where there is a Raw Meat, a Balls, a Barrelman the Human Barrel, Gabby and more recently Friar Tuck. I know my girlfriend has her share of nicknames including Grandma Pajamas and The Mastick Seagull. The ironic thing with all these nicknames is rather than shortening conversations down, they end up making them longer...syllables, explanations of what we are talking about.....the whole malarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 So the nickname for Phuket would be ???? ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundman Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 So the nickname for Phuket would be ???? ..... ^^^ Bangers etc are all ockerisms. Soundman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 So the nickname for Phuket would be ???? ..... english Phukkers Phukker southern hemisphere name format Phukky Phuks Swedish Uernska duernska Phuketska Which one takes your fancy Jingy/Jings/Jinger/Jingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aries27 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 in that case, i'll be ms. manners which is really uhmmm so err, cultured, polite, and refined and MODEST... its not malaproprism, just misrepresentation cuz am not coming from manila... sorry, i gatecrashed. just taking some break off from work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 So the nickname for Phuket would be ???? ..... dunno jinggers. Why would a seppo want to understand the subtle arts of ockerisms anyway? Potentially something like stevo said, Phukkers, Phukker, Phukky, Phuks. But that would be really pushing a name onto it IMHO. Phuket works fine, but perhaps if you were taking the piss, the 'phuck it' could be another alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustoff Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 'sorite maate. isjus thway we tork ere in straya. sno worries , abitta ozzy colcha forya. (F)Ockers, the Aussie equivalent of American Rednecks, are those blokes with pot-bellies in singlets, wearing shorts, thongs and bush hat. Oh, and don't forget the tinnie in a can holder and zinc cream on the nose (at least they're sun smart!). Their female counterparts squeal in high-pitched ocker accents, and wear t-shirt, trackie pants and moccos to bingo. Of course you have the newer generation: the females still screech, but some of them exercise now (though the amount of skinny ockerinas is staggering, so some of them need to replace a few ciggies with some nutrition); males are often slim, yet still loud, one-eyed and apathetic to the outside world. Most of us try not to call ockerinas, "Bush pigs"... Or maybe all of this has something to do with "<deleted>'s", eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Or maybe all of this has something to do with "<deleted>'s", eh? Yeah, but it's what ya do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzestan Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Or maybe all of this has something to do with "<deleted>'s", eh? That would be Washington right? onzestan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt60 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Oh I get it, so there are lots of people who think I originate from Scunthorpe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundman Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Or maybe all of this has something to do with "<deleted>'s", eh? That would be Washington right? onzestan Ask Jingers- he should know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I have only ever seen the places referred to as Bangers and Patters here on TV. Never have I heard anyone say the words, maybe I move in the wrong social circles. Goodnight all. Phil Dung (S)Quat(ters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 The much loved late Brian Johnston JOHNNERS (English cricket commentator) used these all the time. Michael Atherton became ATHERS. Jonathan Agnew AGGERS. Henry Blofeld BLOWERS. For those who do not know who I am talking about I apologize, but it just reminded me of someone who meant so much to English cricket fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 The much loved late Brian Johnston JOHNNERS (English cricket commentator) used these all the time.Michael Atherton became ATHERS. Jonathan Agnew AGGERS. Henry Blofeld BLOWERS. For those who do not know who I am talking about I apologize, but it just reminded me of someone who meant so much to English cricket fans. whatever Lity. Only interest i have in cricket is the short backwards square, David Boon (boony) the 5 foot nothing Tasmanian with the ill fitting trousers. And that interest is only due to the 12th man cricket commentary tapes. Ya cant' beat a bit o' ritchie Beneau can ya. Richie. Er...ok, that doens't work. Rich. Yeah, he is the exception to nicknames that proves the rule. Stevey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 The much loved late Brian Johnston JOHNNERS (English cricket commentator) used these all the time.Michael Atherton became ATHERS. Jonathan Agnew AGGERS. Henry Blofeld BLOWERS. For those who do not know who I am talking about I apologize, but it just reminded me of someone who meant so much to English cricket fans. whatever Lity. Only interest i have in cricket is the short backwards square, David Boon (boony) the 5 foot nothing Tasmanian with the ill fitting trousers. And that interest is only due to the 12th man cricket commentary tapes. Ya cant' beat a bit o' ritchie Beneau can ya. Richie. Er...ok, that doens't work. Rich. Yeah, he is the exception to nicknames that proves the rule. Stevey. The cream, the bone, the white, the off-white, the ivory, or the beige there stevo? Richie Benaud "Welcome back to the SCG, Pakistan are tchew(2) for twenty-tchew.""Oh <deleted> it...Its a good caption that!"(referring to a photo print of Alan Donald's run-out) Bill Lawry "Gottim'! Yes! P!ss off! You're out! That's f**ked his average Tony!" ''And Shane Warne drops the ball, or takes a reverse-catch as it's called these days." Tony Greig (about Max Walker's attempts at being rehired) "Well fow (for) stawters (starters) you cood (could) have the bawsted (bastard) bawwed (barred) from this pawt (part) of the brordcawst (broadcast) irea (area)!" "He's certainly mawstered (mastered) the awt (art) of fawst (fast) bowling in the lawst (last) year and a hawf (half)" Mark Taylor (speaking very fast, quoting his air-conditioner ad) "Jitsu. Straya's favet air!"("Fujitsu, it's Australia's favourite air")" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 FWIW most Thai cities have a nickname the Thais use. Ranong is Nong, Roi-Et is either LA and/or America. Pak Phanang (NST) is Paknang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I've never heard someone call it Bangers except on the internet. It's always Bangkok or Krungthep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) The much loved late Brian Johnston JOHNNERS (English cricket commentator) used these all the time.Michael Atherton became ATHERS. Jonathan Agnew AGGERS. Henry Blofeld BLOWERS. For those who do not know who I am talking about I apologize, but it just reminded me of someone who meant so much to English cricket fans. whatever Lity. Only interest i have in cricket is the short backwards square, David Boon (boony) the 5 foot nothing Tasmanian with the ill fitting trousers. And that interest is only due to the 12th man cricket commentary tapes. Ya cant' beat a bit o' ritchie Beneau can ya. Richie. Er...ok, that doens't work. Rich. Yeah, he is the exception to nicknames that proves the rule. Stevey. Booners and Benners they will know all about Jonners. Off topic a fraction but Ritchie Beneau . A good Ausie Edited April 25, 2008 by Lite Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susquosh Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 The much loved late Brian Johnston JOHNNERS (English cricket commentator) used these all the time.Michael Atherton became ATHERS. Jonathan Agnew AGGERS. Henry Blofeld BLOWERS. For those who do not know who I am talking about I apologize, but it just reminded me of someone who meant so much to English cricket fans. whatever Lity. Only interest i have in cricket is the short backwards square, David Boon (boony) the 5 foot nothing Tasmanian with the ill fitting trousers. And that interest is only due to the 12th man cricket commentary tapes. Ya cant' beat a bit o' ritchie Beneau can ya. Richie. Er...ok, that doens't work. Rich. Yeah, he is the exception to nicknames that proves the rule. Stevey. Booners and Benners they will know all about Jonners. Off topic a fraction but Ritchie Beneau . A good Ausie Remember the great quote "the batsmans Holding the bowlers Willey"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grtaylor Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I've also heard the HSBC (Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation) referred to as "the Honkers and Shankers". G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungFarang13 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 apart from their beautiful women and delicious cuisine, the english have also given us their beautiful system of slang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 The much loved late Brian Johnston JOHNNERS (English cricket commentator) used these all the time.Michael Atherton became ATHERS. Jonathan Agnew AGGERS. Henry Blofeld BLOWERS. For those who do not know who I am talking about I apologize, but it just reminded me of someone who meant so much to English cricket fans. whatever Lity. Only interest i have in cricket is the short backwards square, David Boon (boony) the 5 foot nothing Tasmanian with the ill fitting trousers. And that interest is only due to the 12th man cricket commentary tapes. Ya cant' beat a bit o' ritchie Beneau can ya. Richie. Er...ok, that doens't work. Rich. Yeah, he is the exception to nicknames that proves the rule. Stevey. Booners and Benners they will know all about Jonners. Off topic a fraction but Ritchie Beneau . A good Ausie Remember the great quote "the batsmans Holding the bowlers Willey"? And " Botham failed to get his leg over" when his leg hit the wicket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 apart from their beautiful women and delicious cuisine, the english have also given us their beautiful system of slang. I suspect someone is taking the mickey especially with the first outrageous claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 apart from their beautiful women and delicious cuisine, the english have also given us their beautiful system of slang. I suspect someone is taking the mickey especially with the first outrageous claim. And the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayjayjay Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 (edited) Just like you can head off to Singers for the weekend. For some reason I have not heard Jackers for Jakarta worth using, Jackers............... :D :D Edited April 26, 2008 by jayjayjayjay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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