way2muchcoffee Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Heck I don't think the Thais would knowingly want to offend anyone, unless you pee'd them off first!JJ You haven't met very many tuk tuk drivers have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issanpaul Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 YOU YOU in my book is Offensive not Farang. Even that is not meant to be offensive. It just means someone has taught them that 'you' means the same as khun (คุณ) which is a rather polite way of addressing somebody, same as Mr/Miss or Ma'am. Heck I don't think the Thais would knowingly want to offend anyone, unless you pee'd them off first! JJ Yes Sorry Point Taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thithi Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 that's fine it's just misunderstanding i dnt mind this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thithi Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Heck I don't think the Thais would knowingly want to offend anyone, unless you pee'd them off first!JJ You haven't met very many tuk tuk drivers have you? i know how they are but they dont mean that rude way calling YOU YOU ... Not M**ng M**ng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeddah Jo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Heck I don't think the Thais would knowingly want to offend anyone, unless you pee'd them off first!JJ You haven't met very many tuk tuk drivers have you? True, but I try and avoid talking with low life vermin like that Yes there are some very coarse people in Thailand, but you can't take offence from someone who is barely sentient! Can you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThNiner Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) Has it ever dawned on some people that fools aren't exclusively in Thailand and that they are everywhere in the world? So why use them as an example to generalize the whole nation? And khun Jeddah Jo was right about the use of "you." When I first studied English, it meant "Khun" to me. And I had absolutely no idea that calling a farang "hey you" was offensive. I actually did it a few times when I was a kid because I didn't know any better. And why would anyone wanna link that "hey you" to "farang"? One really has nothing to do with other. :yawnnn: Edited August 28, 2008 by ThNiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issanpaul Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Has it ever dawned on some people that fools aren't exclusively in Thailand and that they are everywhere in the world? So why use them as an example to generalize the whole nation? And khun Jeddah Jo was right about the use of "you." When I first studied English, it meant "Khun" to me. And I had absolutely no idea that calling a farang "hey you" was offensive. I actually did it a few times when I was a kid because I didn't know any better. And why would anyone wanna like that "hey you" to "farang"? One really has nothing to do with other.:yawnnn: My Point was YOU YOU not HEY YOU, Anyway I am not offended now just a little wiser from previous posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5tash Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 My Point was YOU YOU not HEY YOU,Anyway I am not offended now just a little wiser from previous posts. That just about sums this thread up really, a misunderstanding between two very different cultures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Who started this stupid thread? the thread is not stupid. it's just... ahmm... yaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onethailand Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) calling YOU YOU ... Not M**ng M**ng LOL... When I first heard "You! You!" I too was offended, but I soon learned that it was the same as "Khun! Khun!" and meant in the same manner. Speaking of M**ng... that one I learned the hard way later, after I repeated it in polite company Khwai is definitely not a farang-related term - "Ai Khwai" is most often used to refer to traffic police, or a reckless or slow driver! Or, as someone else pointed out, used amongst friends to get a rise out of the other, along with "Ai Hiah" and "Ai Ngo" and, sometimes, "Ai Farang" - so being referred to as a farang is not the same as being called Ai Farang... which is definitely impolite. Edited August 28, 2008 by onethailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) Is that true, Thais would always recognize Kwai as a ruder way of saying farang? I know some Thai's looking for a white sugar Daddy call us Kwai, but didn't realize this was a general term applying to all white people. True or not, because that is a funny one, and similar in a way to the word Queer in relation to homosexual.So, I see we have some Thai posters on this thread. What does KWAI when used to describe PEOPLE mean to you? It isn't .. Kwai is also used as slang for "clumsy". It wouldn't rule out a word that it has multiple meanings. The only requirements are that the word be more offensive than farang and also at least partly associated with white people in Thailand. In that sense, KWAI probably qualifies, but not sure if it is the perfect choice. Queer has multiple meanings that have nothing to do with homosexuals yet that word was used this way, to use an old insulting word in a new way to make a political point. Kwai is kind of a funny idea for my alternative word idea. Any other suggestions? If we found and used such a new word, think of the ironic possibilities! KWAI MAGAZINE KWAI FILM FESTIVAL KWAI PRIDE PARADE KWAI POLITICS KWAI RESORT RETREAT (at the River Kwai) KWAI BUFFALO RACES KWAI T-SHIRTS KWAI FLAG (beige with white stripes and a pink buffalo in the center) new nickname for Sukumwit Bangkok: SUK-KWAI-WIT Saphan Kwai district goes all white Edited August 28, 2008 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onethailand Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 It wouldn't rule out a word that it has multiple meanings. The only requirements are that the word be more offensive than farang and also at least partly associated with white people in Thailand. In that sense, KWAI probably qualifies, but not sure if it is the perfect choice. Queer has multiple meanings that have nothing to do with homosexuals yet that word was used this way, to use an old insulting word in a new way to make a political point. Kwai is kind of a funny idea for my alternative word idea. Any other suggestions? Can't agree. I have never heard Khwai used to refer to someone because he/she was a farang. It is not associated with white people in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThNiner Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 It wouldn't rule out a word that it has multiple meanings. The only requirements are that the word be more offensive than farang and also at least partly associated with white people in Thailand. In that sense, KWAI probably qualifies, but not sure if it is the perfect choice. Queer has multiple meanings that have nothing to do with homosexuals yet that word was used this way, to use an old insulting word in a new way to make a political point. Kwai is kind of a funny idea for my alternative word idea. Any other suggestions?If we found and used such a new word, think of the ironic possibilities! KWAI MAGAZINE KWAI FILM FESTIVAL KWAI PRIDE PARADE KwAI POLITICS KWAI RESORT RETREAT (at the River Kwai) KWAI BUFFALO RACES Kwai is partly associated with white people in Thailand?!!?? Hahahahahahahaha ROTFL! One of the funniest and silliest things I've read on here. :clap: So many farang experts in Thai language at Thaivisa.com. I'm impressed! 5555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Kwai is partly associated with white people in Thailand?!!?? Hahahahahahahaha Got a better idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThNiner Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Can't agree. I have never heard Khwai used to refer to someone because he/she was a farang. It is not associated with white people in Thailand. In JingThing's Thai-English dictionary, there's probably a picture of white guy right next to the word "kwai." This gotta be how he got the idea. PS. I'm just trying to understand Jingthing. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thithi Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 It wouldn't rule out a word that it has multiple meanings. The only requirements are that the word be more offensive than farang and also at least partly associated with white people in Thailand. In that sense, KWAI probably qualifies, but not sure if it is the perfect choice. Queer has multiple meanings that have nothing to do with homosexuals yet that word was used this way, to use an old insulting word in a new way to make a political point. Kwai is kind of a funny idea for my alternative word idea. Any other suggestions?If we found and used such a new word, think of the ironic possibilities! KWAI MAGAZINE KWAI FILM FESTIVAL KWAI PRIDE PARADE KwAI POLITICS KWAI RESORT RETREAT (at the River Kwai) KWAI BUFFALO RACES Kwai is partly associated with white people in Thailand?!!?? Hahahahahahahaha ROTFL! One of the funniest and silliest things I've read on here. :clap: So many farang experts in Thai language at Thaivisa.com. I'm impressed! 5555555 ahaha calm down phi. that's nice tho try Kwai sweet Kwai... and at thai lang. forum i'm impressed as well .. tho i'm thai and hate thai-writting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) Can't agree. I have never heard Khwai used to refer to someone because he/she was a farang. It is not associated with white people in Thailand. In JingThing's Thai-English dictionary, there's probably a picture of white guy right next to the word "kwai." This gotta be how he got the idea. PS. I'm just trying to understand Jingthing. That's all. No? Are you sure? ฝรั่งโง่เหมือนควาย Anyway, if you have bothered to follow my line of thought, I never said I was married to the word KWAI. I do like it as a word because it is a funny insulting word, but I agree its link to white people may not be strong enough, except in Pattaya, Any better idea for a word to use in a new way for the purpose I proposed? Edited August 28, 2008 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThNiner Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 ahaha calm down phi. that's nice tho try Kwai sweet Kwai... and at thai lang. forum i'm impressed as well .. tho i'm thai and hate thai-writting Nong Thithi, even though I laughed so hard at that comment, I did feel abit sorry for JingThing na. He must have had quite verbal exchanges with some of our fellow countrymen. "Kwai is partly associated with white people in Thailand"..quality! 555555 Can't stop laughing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 ahaha calm down phi. that's nice tho try Kwai sweet Kwai... and at thai lang. forum i'm impressed as well .. tho i'm thai and hate thai-writting Nong Thithi, even though I laughed so hard at that comment, I did feel abit sorry for JingThing na. He must have had quite verbal exchanges with some of our fellow countrymen. "Kwai is partly associated with white people in Thailand"..quality! 555555 Can't stop laughing! You know, the more I read the strength of your reaction to this, the more I think it might just be the perfect word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onethailand Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) ฝรั่งโง่เหมือนควาย Note the presence of the word "farang" - farang is stupid as a buffalo. I don't see how you can associate "buffalo" with "farang" - you can similarly replace the word "farang" with any nationality or reference to a person. Edited August 28, 2008 by onethailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thithi Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 ahahaha come onnnn Kwai means someone's stupid [slang] we dnt use it to call u but if u r stupid. .... err... 5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) ahahaha come onnnnKwai means someone's stupid [slang] we dnt use it to call u but if u r stupid. .... err... 5555 OK, fine. Can you name some Thai words that are INSULTS (more insulting than farang) and are often associated with white people? And please write them in Thai and English with the translation. Thank you very much! Edited August 28, 2008 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeddah Jo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Can you name some Thai words that are INSULTS (more insulting than farang) and are often associated with white people? And please write them in Thai and English with the translation. Thank you very much! Here is one... ประสาทเสีย - bprà-sàat sĭa = become fretful or neurotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) Can you name some Thai words that are INSULTS (more insulting than farang) and are often associated with white people? And please write them in Thai and English with the translation. Thank you very much! Here is one... ประสาทเสีย - bprà-sàat sĭa = become fretful or neurotic Looking for a NOUN that can also be used as an adjective, but thank you. Caption contest time???? Edited August 28, 2008 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThNiner Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 All right Jingthing, I'm gonna muster some effort and try to educate you. "Kwai" is a slang for anything stupid or extremely stupid. You can say anything is as stupid as Kwai, not just farangs. So "ฝรั่งโง่เหมือนควาย" doesn't in anyway mean that Kwai is forever "partly associated with white people in Thailand". It was just that at the moment the Thai person who said it just thought that the white person he encountered was a really really really stupid dumbass. For instance... if you still don't understand this explanation of mine, some of us Thais might think you,Jingthing, is really "โง่เหมือนควาย." And it doesn't mean that "Kwai is partly associated with Jingthing." It doesn't mean that you can alwasy interchange the word Kwai with Jingthing and then any Thais would immediately get it. All right? I do hope you get it now. OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I get it, I got it a long time ago. Any other word ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thithi Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 i cant give u that kind of words :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) i cant give u that kind of words:S Saving the good stuff for Khon Thai, chai mai? That is very Kee Nee Ow of you. I know, you are being polite. Its OK, let er rip! Edited August 28, 2008 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onethailand Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 My secretary had to apologize before she read that phrase to me (since I can understand Thai but can't read it). ประสาทเสีย - bprà-sàat sĭa - also can't be associated with farangs, since it means "brain not working". If only farangs had that problem, then I'd agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thithi Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 i cant give u that kind of words:S Saving the good stuff for Khon Thai, chai mai? That is very Kee Nee Ow of you. I know, you are being polite. Its OK, let er rip! hmmm kee neeow?? am i stingy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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