Htc Touch Hd

[anotheruser]

What are people's impressions of this phone? Are these available in Bangkok yet? I am looking for a phone because my iPhone as great as it is has some weaknesses that I can't live with.

Signal strength is the first issue, how is the strength on HTC phones? Anybody use HTC phones with a Mac before? Is the Software package they give you compatible with Macs? Do they charge when you hook them to a laptop with a cable? A Nokia I had before wouldn't charge when hooked to my blackbook and the pc suite they included is windows only. This is sort of important as the area I am going has no power except a few hours at night.

Do the new models with the larger touch displays browse the web satisfactorily?

I don't really care how it compares to an iPhone, I have had a few of those and know their strengths and weaknesses. So to the people that are going to say "Get an iPhone." Thanks I have one.

http://gizmodo.com/5051515/htc-touch-hd-qu...e-to-the-iphone

[HDRIDER]

Hi

I have a HTC P3600I works fine like it, it do charge with USB cable, all i use, don’t know about Mac, it is a windows phone, try htc.com

i also have a Samsung omnia, have a look at that before you buy a HTC, like it better than the HTC, i also had a iphone before, got rid of that da.n thing.

[MMR]

What are people's impressions of this phone? Are these available in Bangkok yet? I am looking for a phone because my iPhone as great as it is has some weaknesses that I can't live with.

The Touch HD hasn't been released anywhere.

[anotheruser]

OK Thanks for the info MMR. I just stumbled upon a review of it today.

[anotheruser]

What do you like better about the Omnia?

[MMR]

OK Thanks for the info MMR. I just stumbled upon a review of it today.

You only need one site for all your mobile info...

gsmarena.com

[bill1960]

cant understand why its only got 512mb internal storage compared to Iphone/omnia 8-16GB

wouldnt it be a pita to carry around a little memory card or losing/misplacing it.

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=64796

[HDRIDER]

What do you like better about the Omnia?

Hi

Screen 3.5", camera 5mp, Samsung today screen, just had it for a few days, i dont say its better than my HTC, just that i like it, and my GF REALLY like my HTC, so goodbye HTC.

time for a change anyway.

[anotheruser]

cant understand why its only got 512mb internal storage compared to Iphone/omnia 8-16GB

wouldnt it be a pita to carry around a little memory card or losing/misplacing it.

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=64796

Yes. It would be and if I didn't have a seperate iPod I wouldn't consider one. Does seem odd that other phones in their product line have much more storage but this one only has 512. I guess some people haven't gotten past the limited storage out of the box but I can carry 10,000,000 add on chips with me mind set. I think Apple got it right in this respect. As nice as an expansion slot on the iphone would have been it is still more memory out of the box than any phone at the time of it's launch had. I hope this becomes standard across the board.

On the other hand maybe they couldn't have fit so many other feature sets into it if they had included a bigger memory stick. The phone is a pretty big brick as it is, it looks to be about twice as thick as an iPhone from what I can tell. Perhaps it would have upped the price point. Who knows why they made this compromise but I am sure they had some reasoning, at least I would hope so.

Thanks to MMR for the link. I am not typically obsessed with mobiles but if I spend this much on one I don't want to get stuck with a piece of crap.

[bill1960]

cant understand why its only got 512mb internal storage compared to Iphone/omnia 8-16GB

wouldnt it be a pita to carry around a little memory card or losing/misplacing it.

http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=64796

Yes. It would be and if I didn't have a seperate iPod I wouldn't consider one. Does seem odd that other phones in their product line have much more storage but this one only has 512. I guess some people haven't gotten past the limited storage out of the box but I can carry 10,000,000 add on chips with me mind set. I think Apple got it right in this respect. As nice as an expansion slot on the iphone would have been it is still more memory out of the box than any phone at the time of it's launch had. I hope this becomes standard across the board.

On the other hand maybe they couldn't have fit so many other feature sets into it if they had included a bigger memory stick. The phone is a pretty big brick as it is, it looks to be about twice as thick as an iPhone from what I can tell. Perhaps it would have upped the price point. Who knows why they made this compromise but I am sure they had some reasoning, at least I would hope so.

Thanks to MMR for the link. I am not typically obsessed with mobiles but if I spend this much on one I don't want to get stuck with a piece of crap.

I'm still a newb when it comes to smartphones so my concerns about the HD's lack of internal memory may be unfounded.

Apparently quite large micro sd cards are available and I presume these just slot inside the phone so perhaps this option is better/more versatile than large internal memory without a slot ?, ignoring the extra cost for the card

Question is would internal memory react faster than memory retrieved from a the sd card, or, no difference ?

As for size, weight, here's some comparisons

HTC HD 115 x 62.8 x 12 146.4gms 3.8" 480 x 800 display

Iphone 3G 115 x 62 x 11.5 133grms 3.5" 480 x 320

Omnia 112 x 56.9 x 12.5 122grms 3.2" 240 x 400

I guess if you can handle carrying around an Iphone , and given its popularity a lot of people can, then HTC HD is the ultimate choice if you want WM and in my case WM office.

Otherwise, for pocketability, the Omnia would be my next choice.

Guess I'll have to weigh it up, literally, when the HD hits the stores later this year.

Btw, does anyone on this thread trade for a living. My main motivation for the big display smartphone is having the option of ultra portable trading as I prefer not to carry around a notebook. I need a decent size display so I can easily view webpages, and I need to access/edit my excel files and view pdf files

Prior to the HD, I tend to think there wasn't a pocketfriendly WM smartphone with a big enough screen for my use ?

[bill1960]

Some examples of pricing for the HD when it comes out ~Nov 2008

$899.95

http://www.elite-electronix.com/pocket-pcs...uch-hd-unlocked

$999

http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/hTC/HTC-TOUCH-HD.HTML

$949.94

http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/welcom...product_id=1350

[Fun2Fun]

Since you can get 16 GB memory cards, the low internal memory on the HD should not be a problem.

Also there is the Sony Xperia X1 which is said to be available in Thailand in about a months time, it has the same screen resolution as the HD and also a slide out keyboard.

You might have a look at Omnia which has a generous internal memory (2 versions 8GB and 16GB) and also have a memory card slot if you need more.

I do have an Omnia myself, which i am fairly satisfied with, i especially like the compact size and that it basically have it all inc. a 5MP camera with flash.

[bill1960]

Since you can get 16 GB memory cards, the low internal memory on the HD should not be a problem.

Also there is the Sony Xperia X1 which is said to be available in Thailand in about a months time, it has the same screen resolution as the HD and also a slide out keyboard.

You might have a look at Omnia which has a generous internal memory (2 versions 8GB and 16GB) and also have a memory card slot if you need more.

I do have an Omnia myself, which i am fairly satisfied with, i especially like the compact size and that it basically have it all inc. a 5MP camera with flash.

Yeah, the Omnia was my 1st choice and I was just waiting for a legit seller with warranty to offer them in Cambodia or I'd pick one up on my next visit to Thailand.

However, reading the specs on the HD, it seems to beat the Omnia in every area except pocketability.

What negatives, if any, have you found with the Omnia ?

[Fun2Fun]

Yeah, the Omnia was my 1st choice and I was just waiting for a legit seller with warranty to offer them in Cambodia or I'd pick one up on my next visit to Thailand.

However, reading the specs on the HD, it seems to beat the Omnia in every area except pocketability.

What negatives, if any, have you found with the Omnia ?

Nothing major really, have added some programs to improve the looks and functions and use the latest Hi1 Rom and it works great in all respects.

[Fun2Fun]

Some specs.. (from GSM Arena):

HTC Touch HD:

General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network HSDPA 2100 / 900

Announced 2008, September

Status Coming soon. Exp. release 2008, 4Q

Size Dimensions 115 x 62.8 x 12 mm

Weight 146 g

Display Type TFT touchscreen, 65K colors

Size 480 x 800 pixels, 3.8 inches

- TouchFLO 3D finger swipe navigation

- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate

- Touch-sensitive navigation controls

- Handwriting recognition

Ringtones Type Polyphonic (40 channels), MP3, WAV, WMA

Customization Download

Vibration Yes

Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall

Call records Practically unlimited

Card slot microSD (TransFlash)

- 288 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM

- Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor

Data GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps

HSCSD No

EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps

3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps

WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g

Bluetooth Yes, v2.0 with A2DP

Infrared port No

USB Yes, miniUSB

Features OS Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging

Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML

Games Yes

Colors Black

Camera 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, video, secondary VGA videocall camera

- Built-in GPS receiver

- A-GPS function

- TV-out (cable not included)

- 3.5 mm audio output jack

- YouTube client

- Stereo FM radio with RDS

- Pocket Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, PDF viewer)

- Java MIDP 2.0

- Voice memo

- MP3 player

- Built-in handsfree

Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1350 mAh

Stand-by Up to 450 h

Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min

SE Xperia X1:

General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100

Announced 2008, February

Status Coming soon

Size Dimensions 110.5 x 52.6 x 17 mm

Weight 145 g

Display Type TFT touchscreen, 65K colors

Size 800 x 480 pixels, 3.0 inches

- Full QWERTY keyboard

- Optical joystick navigation

Ringtones Type Polyphonic, MP3

Customization Composer, download

Vibration Yes

Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall

Call records Practically unlimited

Card slot microSD (TransFlash)

- 400 MB internal memory

- 256MB RAM, 512MB storage memory

- Qualcomm MSM7200 528MHz processor

Data GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps

HSCSD No

EDGE Yes

3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps

WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11b/g

Bluetooth Yes, v2.0 with A2DP

Infrared port No

USB Yes, v2.0 miniUSB

Features OS Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Push E-Mail, IM

Browser WAP 2.0/HTML (IE), RSS feeds

Games Yes + downloadable

Colors Solid Black, Steel Silver

Camera 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus, video(VGA@30fps), flash; secondary videocall camera

- Built-in GPS receiver

- A-GPS function

- Java MIDP 2.0

- FM radio with RDS

- MP3/AAC/MPEG4 player

- 3.5 mm audio jack

- Pocket Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, PDF viewer)

- TrackID music recognition

- Picture editor/blogging

- Organiser

- T9

- Built-in handsfree

- Voice memo/dial

Battery Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh (BST-41)

Stand-by Up to 833 h

Talk time Up to 10 h

Samsung Omnia:

General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network HSDPA 2100

HSDPA 850 / 1900 - American version

Announced 2008, June

Status Available. Released 2008, July

Size Dimensions 112 x 56.9 x 12.5 mm

Weight 122 g

Display Type TFT touchscreen, 256K colors (65K effective)

Size 240 x 400 pixels, 3.2 inches

- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate

- Handwriting recognition

Ringtones Type Polyphonic, MP3

Customization Download

Vibration Yes

Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall

Call records Practically unlimited

Card slot microSD (TransFlash), up to 8GB, buy memory

- 128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM

- 624MHz Marvell PXA312 processor

- 8 GB/16 GB internal memory

Data GPRS Class 12 (4+1/3+2/2+3/1+4 slots), 32 - 48 kbps

HSCSD No

EDGE Class 12

3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps

WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11b/g

Bluetooth Yes, v2.0 with A2DP

Infrared port No

USB Yes, v2.0

Features OS Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Messaging SMS, EMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging

Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML, RSS feeds

Games Yes + Java downloadable, order now

Colors Modern Black

Camera 5 MP, 2592х1944 pixels, autofocus, image stabiliser, video, flash; secondary videocall camera

- Built-in GPS receiver with A-GPS support

- Java MIDP 2.0

- FM Radio with RDS

- Pocket Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, PDF viewer)

- MP3/AAC/AAC+/WMA/OGG/AMR player

- DivX/XviD/WMV/MP4 player

- TV Out

- Voice memo

- Built-in handsfree

Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1440 mAh

Stand-by Up to 500 h

Talk time Up to 5 h 50 min

HTC Diamond:

General 2G Network GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900

GSM 850 / 1800 / 1900 - American version

3G Network HSDPA 2100 / 900

HSDPA 850 / 1900 - American version

Announced 2008, May

Status Available. Released 2008, May

Size Dimensions 102 x 51 x 11.5 mm

Weight 110 g

Display Type TFT touchscreen, 65K colors

Size 480 x 640 pixels, 2.8 inches

- TouchFLO 3D finger swipe navigation

- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate

- Touch-sensitive navigation controls

- Handwriting recognition

Ringtones Type Polyphonic (40 channels), MP3, WAV, WMA

Customization Download, order now

Vibration Yes

Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall

Call records Practically unlimited

Card slot No

- 4 GB user available memory

- 192 MB DDR SDRAM, 256 MB ROM

- Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor

Data GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps

HSCSD No

EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps

3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps

WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g

Bluetooth Yes, v2.0 with A2DP

Infrared port No

USB Yes, miniUSB

Features OS Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging

Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML

Games Yes, order now

Colors Black

Camera 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus, video; secondary VGA videocall camera

- Built-in GPS with A-GPS

- Stereo FM radio with RDS

- Pocket Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, PDF viewer)

- Java MIDP 2.0

- Voice memo

- MP3 player

- Motion-based games

- Built-in handsfree

Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 900 mAh

Stand-by Up to 285 h

Talk time Up to 5 h 30 min

HTC Diamond Pro:

General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network HSDPA 2100 / 900

HSDPA 850 / 1900 - American version

Announced 2008, June

Status Available. Released 2008, August

Size Dimensions 102 x 51 x 18.1 mm

Weight 165 g

Display Type TFT touchscreen, 65K colors

Size 480 x 640 pixels, 2.8 inches

- Full QWERTY keyboard

- TouchFLO 3D finger swipe navigation

- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate

- Touch-sensitive navigation controls

- Handwriting recognition

Ringtones Type Polyphonic (40 channels), MP3, WAV, WMA

Customization Download, order now

Vibration Yes

Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall

Call records Practically unlimited

Card slot microSD (TransFlash), buy memory

- 288 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM

- Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor

Data GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps

HSCSD No

EDGE Class 10, 236.8 kbps

3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps

WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g

Bluetooth Yes, v2.0 with A2DP

Infrared port No

USB Yes, miniUSB

Features OS Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional

Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging

Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML

Games Yes, order now

Colors Black

Camera 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus, flash, video; secondary VGA videocall camera

- Built-in GPS receiver

- A-GPS function

- TV-out (cable not included)

- Stereo FM radio with RDS

- Pocket Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, PDF viewer)

- Java MIDP 2.0

- Voice memo

- MP3 player

- Built-in handsfree

Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1340 mAh

Stand-by Up to 406 h

Talk time Up to 8 h

Apple Iphone 3G:

General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100

Announced 2008, June

Status Available. Released 2008, July

Size Dimensions 115.5 x 62.1 x 12.3 mm

Weight 133 g

Display Type Touchscreen, 16M colors

Size 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches

- Multi-touch input method

- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate

- Proximity sensor for auto turn-off

- Ambient light sensor

Ringtones Type Polyphonic, MP3

Customization Download

Vibration Yes

- 3.5 mm headset jack

Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall

Call records 100 received, dialed and missed calls

Card slot No

- 8/16 GB shared memory

Data GPRS Yes

HSCSD No

EDGE Yes

3G HSDPA

WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11b/g

Bluetooth Yes, v2.0, headset support only

Infrared port No

USB Yes, v2.0

Features OS Mac OS X v10.4.10

Messaging SMS, Email

Browser HTML (Safari)

Games Downloadable

Colors Black(8/16 GB), White (16 GB)

Camera 2 MP, 1600x1200 pixels

- Built-in GPS receiver

- A-GPS function

- Google Maps

- iPod audio/video player

- TV output

- Photo browser/editor

- Voice memo

- Integrated handsfree

Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion

Stand-by Up to 300 h

Talk time Up to 10 h

[ozymandious]

My 2 cents

I got the HTC TyTN II I like it a lot (need to do firmware update to WM6.1 just to lazy to do so yet)

Came with a 1GB SD micro card in the box, bought a 4GB stick to put in it. and I'm probably never going to fill it all up because I use my iPod for music/video/podcasts

I wanted it because i wanted a qwerty keyboard, and more connectivity options than you can shake a stick at.

Maybe take a look at the HTC Pro for something available now, or go with the samsung. Played with a friends, it's got a beautiful screen and the samsung modified interface is pretty slick.