Internet Chatters Display Genitals Through Webcams

[Jai Dee]

Chatters 'display genitals'

Among more than 15,000 unregistered Internet cafes and computergame shops, many of them, which are popular among gay male clients, allow chatters to openly show off their genitals through webcams, a Bangkok seminar on child welfare was told yesterday.

These shops are located mostly opposite Ramkhamhaeng University and law enforcement officials could not effectively tackle such explicit exposure in public places, said Amornwit Nakhonthab, director of the Ramjitti Institute who was quoting a Child Watch report. He did not say why laws could not be effectively enforced in these cafes and shops.

There are around 5,000 shops and cafes registered with authorities, but their services for minors after 10 pm or customers in school uniforms were regularly reported. Game addiction and school absenteeism are increasing in Bangkok and major provinces across the country, the Child Watch report said.

He said more youths were being sent to correctional homes each year, from 30,000 a year previously to around 40,000 in the past two years. The report found that 30 per cent of students at lower high school levels in the provinces did not live with their parents. Vice and nightentertainment venues are being found operating near schools without sanction by authorities.

Assoc Prof Somphong Jitradab, a Chulalongkorn University lecturer on child development, said Child Watch also found that students were increasingly bored with schools and turning to computer games and seeking friends of the opposite sex, because school courses were boring and outdated. In many provinces where surveys were conducted, half the primary school students and 80 per cent of secondary students had mobile phones.

Source: The Nation - 24 September 2008

[TAWP]

Allow customers to openly show off their genitals? Really? Where does the school-girls go? Gonna write a co-ed piece for western media about this and I need some evidence...

Edited September 24, 2008 by TAWP

[Artisi]

Allow customers to openly show off their genitals? Really? Where does the school-girls go? Gonna write a co-ed piece for western media about this and I need some evidence...

Can I give you a hand (no pun intended) sounds like an interesting project.

[jts-khorat]

Allow customers to openly show off their genitals? Really? Where does the school-girls go? Gonna write a co-ed piece for western media about this and I need some evidence...

You must have mis-read the article.

Obviously the problem are all those gay male teenagers in school uniforms whose display of genitals is the sure first step of a criminal career and later need to be sent to a correctional facility. If they would have kept their balls in their pants they would have become upstanding citizens.

Poor education, drug use and other factors are absolutely minor compared to this outrage, so let's have another crackdown to rid this country of criminal activity right now!

[h90]

every kid can watch bloody movies where every 10 seconds someone get killed. But genitals or sex....everyone is shocked and sure that will damage the young one.....

[TAWP]

Allow customers to openly show off their genitals? Really? Where does the school-girls go? Gonna write a co-ed piece for western media about this and I need some evidence...

You must have mis-read the article.

Obviously the problem are all those gay male teenagers in school uniforms whose display of genitals is the sure first step of a criminal career and later need to be sent to a correctional facility. If they would have kept their balls in their pants they would have become upstanding citizens.

Poor education, drug use and other factors are absolutely minor compared to this outrage, so let's have another crackdown to rid this country of criminal activity right now!

No mis-reading, the article didn't say it was exclusively male gays doing it.

But yes, showing genitals are so much worse then killing someone... really?

How about a clamp down on drunk driving?

[popshirt]

"........school courses boring and outdated.........."

Now there's a REAL problem for Thailand to solve.

[Samuian]

it's a known issue... not only between students or minors, done in "public" or in secrecy at home, what the heck...

[haybilly]

Allow customers to openly show off their genitals? Really? Where does the school-girls go? Gonna write a co-ed piece for western media about this and I need some evidence...

You must have mis-read the article.

Obviously the problem are all those gay male teenagers in school uniforms whose display of genitals is the sure first step of a criminal career and later need to be sent to a correctional facility. If they would have kept their balls in their pants they would have become upstanding citizens.

Poor education, drug use and other factors are absolutely minor compared to this outrage, so let's have another crackdown to rid this country of criminal activity right now!

No mis-reading, the article didn't say it was exclusively male gays doing it.

But yes, showing genitals are so much worse then killing someone... really?

How about a clamp down on drunk driving?

No wonder Thai people have such a low opinion of Farang males in Thailand when all the posts, apart from the OP, seem to have been from perverts. Not sure whether it's just schoolgirls, or boys as well, that you lot are interested in.

I take this back if you are still schoolkids yourselves --somehow I doubt it.

[Moruya]

Some of the commenys on here are bang out of order. Kids in any country need protecting from abuse.

[h90]

Allow customers to openly show off their genitals? Really? Where does the school-girls go? Gonna write a co-ed piece for western media about this and I need some evidence...

You must have mis-read the article.

Obviously the problem are all those gay male teenagers in school uniforms whose display of genitals is the sure first step of a criminal career and later need to be sent to a correctional facility. If they would have kept their balls in their pants they would have become upstanding citizens.

Poor education, drug use and other factors are absolutely minor compared to this outrage, so let's have another crackdown to rid this country of criminal activity right now!

No mis-reading, the article didn't say it was exclusively male gays doing it.

But yes, showing genitals are so much worse then killing someone... really?

How about a clamp down on drunk driving?

No wonder Thai people have such a low opinion of Farang males in Thailand when all the posts, apart from the OP, seem to have been from perverts. Not sure whether it's just schoolgirls, or boys as well, that you lot are interested in.

I take this back if you are still schoolkids yourselves --somehow I doubt it.

I didn't detect a low opinion about farang males in Thailand so far....

[Jai Dee]

Some of the commenys on here are bang out of order. Kids in any country need protecting from abuse.

Exactly.

I have had to edit some of the posts in this thread due to references to school children.

Please stay on-topic and within the bounds of general decency or this thread will have to be closed.

[Scott]

It's hard (no pun intended) to stay on topic when the article is all over the place. Exactly what is it about:

1. 15,000 unregistered internet shops--mostly across from Ramkhamheng Uni. (That sounds like REALLY alot of shops)

2. The extremely high number of young gay males at the Uni.

3. That police can't regulate this for some unknown reason

4. That kids aren't living at home with their parents and don't like school.

5. That kids don't like school.

6. That people are exposing their genitals on the internet--or in public at an internet cafe.

7. All of the above

8. None of the above.

[Thai at Heart]

It all comes down to the head in the sand attitude that academics have for Thai society and obvious police corruption. Lets wait until the end of the week for a "crackdown" on internet cafes and it is all blamed on western influences corrupting Thai morals.

Shock horror, massive red light district discovered masquerading as sea front wholesome family beach resort after 30 years- Pattaya

[OxfordWill]

someone wants to promote childwatch, the rest is probably fiction. Apart from the names of the people.

[jts-khorat]

It's hard (no pun intended) to stay on topic when the article is all over the place. Exactly what is it about:

1. 15,000 unregistered internet shops--mostly across from Ramkhamheng Uni. (That sounds like REALLY alot of shops)

2. The extremely high number of young gay males at the Uni.

3. That police can't regulate this for some unknown reason

4. That kids aren't living at home with their parents and don't like school.

5. That kids don't like school.

6. That people are exposing their genitals on the internet--or in public at an internet cafe.

7. All of the above

8. None of the above.

In my post above I tried to persiflage the connection that the article assumes between flashing gays (and supposedly only gay teenagers going to school using internet shops) and the increasing rate of current inmates.

As TAWP points out quite correctly the article does not conclude this to be only male gay pupils; it might be lesbians as well...

I would really like to see the statistics and research this article is based on :-)

[Cuban]

I understand that the first week of the new year is the busiest for those people that replace broken glass platters on photocopying machines, all those drunken Christmas parties.

You see it is the fault of technology, not people.

[DP25]

What a load of rubbish. All this report really says is "Some internet cafes have Camfrog installed on their computers. Please send our NGO more money for further research kthxbye."

[h90]

I understand that the first week of the new year is the busiest for those people that replace broken glass platters on photocopying machines, all those drunken Christmas parties.

You see it is the fault of technology, not people.

I don't know other peoples genitals but mine could not break that glas.

[astral]

I think this is just another example of MISINFORMATION by people

who have a agenda, but no real information to back up their argument.

I have always found the ordinary Thai people to be very modest.

I cannot imagine them standing up in an Internet Cafe or Game shop and "flashing".

In front of the computer at home, is another matter,

but that was NOT what was alleged at the seminar.

[Jingthing]

The people behind this report probably do have an agenda, but there are also a heck of alot of Thai men displaying their bare wares on the internet at cafes, you have to know where to look for this, most of the sites are Thais for Thais. Perhaps Thai men aren't as modest as some think.

Edited September 24, 2008 by Jingthing

[haybilly]

Allow customers to openly show off their genitals? Really? Where does the school-girls go? Gonna write a co-ed piece for western media about this and I need some evidence...

You must have mis-read the article.

Obviously the problem are all those gay male teenagers in school uniforms whose display of genitals is the sure first step of a criminal career and later need to be sent to a correctional facility. If they would have kept their balls in their pants they would have become upstanding citizens.

Poor education, drug use and other factors are absolutely minor compared to this outrage, so let's have another crackdown to rid this country of criminal activity right now!

No mis-reading, the article didn't say it was exclusively male gays doing it.

But yes, showing genitals are so much worse then killing someone... really?

How about a clamp down on drunk driving?

No wonder Thai people have such a low opinion of Farang males in Thailand when all the posts, apart from the OP, seem to have been from perverts. Not sure whether it's just schoolgirls, or boys as well, that you lot are interested in.

I take this back if you are still schoolkids yourselves --somehow I doubt it.

I didn't detect a low opinion about farang males in Thailand so far....

Do you travel around Thailand much???

[Jingthing]

perverts

??

As most people who use the internet have viewed porn, I guess the world is filled with perverts. What shall we do?

I believe Larry Flynt said something like this: "those who are against porn are divided into two camps, those who don't know what they are talking about, and those who don't know what they are missing."

Edited September 24, 2008 by Jingthing

[PeaceBlondie]

As reported, the text is not clear that the clients in the internet cafe are exposing themselves, or watching webcam images of people at home using webcams. The text is jumbled. Thais are not great at connecting cause and effect. It may be all caused by ghosts in the machine.

[haybilly]

perverts

??

As most people who use the internet have viewed porn, I guess the world is filled with perverts. What shall we do?

I believe Larry Flynt said something like this: "those who are against porn are divided into two camps, those who don't know what they are talking about, and those who don't know what they are missing."

My reference was to posts apparently displaying an interest in 'schoolkids' showing their 'wares'--I have nothing against porn per se but with a daughter who is still in school I was somewhat dismayed by this--you, Jt, can 'research' these Thai sites as much as you like/need to.

[jts-khorat]

perverts

??

As most people who use the internet have viewed porn, I guess the world is filled with perverts. What shall we do?

I believe Larry Flynt said something like this: "those who are against porn are divided into two camps, those who don't know what they are talking about, and those who don't know what they are missing."

My reference was to posts apparently displaying an interest in 'schoolkids' showing their 'wares'--I have nothing against porn per se but with a daughter who is still in school I was somewhat dismayed by this--you, Jt, can 'research' these Thai sites as much as you like/need to.

I believe we are talking about a rather specific group of 'schoolkids' as quoted in the article here (and I confess I am rather not interested).

For the sake of your daughter I would hope she is not one of them or a little bit more parental contriol would be necessary

[hash9]

Sneak preview here

http://console.unrulymedia.com/wildfire/vi...R-1222096465820

[Johpa]

In my post above I tried to persiflage the connection that the article assumes between flashing gays......

Persiflage,,,,,persiflage?!? Using a word like persiflage is the posting equivalent of flashing your genitals in the public baths. Crikey, I haven't encountered that word in print since I tool my SAT back in 1969.

Edited September 24, 2008 by Johpa

[Bangyai]

every kid can watch bloody movies where every 10 seconds someone get killed. But genitals or sex....everyone is shocked and sure that will damage the young one.....

Agreed. Especially true of new American films. I started watching something the other day and there was so much gratuitous violence I had to give it up. That plus the fact that the script writers seem to feel obliged to throw ' motherfuc_ker ' into every other sentance makes it very tedious for an adult but magnetic to teenagers. It seems to give out the impression that its o.k. to kill someone as long as they can't see your private parts. Besides, the net is awash with porn so surely this is a greater threat.

[jts-khorat]

In my post above I tried to persiflage the connection that the article assumes between flashing gays......

Persiflage,,,,,persiflage?!? Using a word like persiflage is the posting equivalent of flashing your genitals in the public baths. Crikey, I haven't encountered that word in print since I tool my SAT back in 1969.

Always happy to amuse.

I guess the English I learned in school is a little bit more Old World; I might add that it is maybe a sad state that the Americans have lost so much of the language they presume to speak daily. As another poster pointed out, Americanisms like 'm*therf*cker' are so much more the rage nowadays.