Protesters Look Set To Be Dispersed At 3 P.m.

[brahmburgers]

The Constitution Court yesterday set a December 2 deadline for its acceptance of closing statements from the three coalition parties, People Power, Chart Thai and Matchima Thipataya, involved in the party-dissolution case.

The high court ruled to drop the hearing of witnesses and the admission of additional evidence on the grounds that it already had sufficient information to form a verdict......... {refer to above post for full text}

Where did this 'press release' come from? It sounds significant, as does the earlier posted press release of Somchai firing police chief who apparently didn't act dynamically enough. For Somchai to fire anyone, would take strong advice from those hunkered around him, his wife and/or the puppetmaster himself (via a phone call), as Somchai is not the type of person who takes dynamic action.

As for the news of a more imminent dissolution of PPP (Dec. 2) - the PPP herd will likely conjugate under so-called Phue Thai Party - much as the herd switched to PPP from TRT. No defectors nor individual thinkers in that group - as they all know who butters their toast.

For their part, PAD will continue protesting, with or without their current heads guys. The drama will continue.

[Felt 35]

Eveybody seems to focused on the short term....(open the airport), but the majority on this board few ever talk about what happens over the next few months if they were to run out the PAD from all the protest sites.

1. The constitution would be amended to exempt those current penalties of 5 years for being found guilty of corruption. This would allow the old TRT leadership back into the game.

2. The Privy counsel would be abolished, thus emasculating any input from the palace.

3. The PPP will be found guilty of corruption on Dec 15, but will reform into a new party that is already set up.

4. The Amnesty that is currently granted once a year from HRM will be seeded to the PM to grant.

5. The Monarchy will cease to exist in a few years.

6. Both the major and minor players of the PAD will be severely punished, so as to set an example to other not to oppose corruption in the government.

The bottom line is a few will take control of this country, use it for personal gain, and what ever the heart and soul of Thailand has been for hundreds of years, it will become a shell of its former self.

I for one do not want to see a coup, but would much rather see the Constitutional Court disband the current PPP party ahead of the Dec 15 schedule. Have the court take control of the country, and set up a better way to run it.

Well said

[lioness]

Does anyone know if it permissable for a Falang to stand for prime minister(ess). I am thinking of standing.

[Artisi]

Does anyone know if it permissable for a Falang to stand for prime minister(ess). I am thinking of standing.

Sure, if you want to be screwed by Thaksin an interview can probably be arranged.

[siam4ever]

Eveybody seems to focused on the short term....(open the airport), but the majority on this board few ever talk about what happens over the next few months if they were to run out the PAD from all the protest sites.

1. The constitution would be amended to exempt those current penalties of 5 years for being found guilty of corruption. This would allow the old TRT leadership back into the game.

2. The Privy counsel would be abolished, thus emasculating any input from the palace.

3. The PPP will be found guilty of corruption on Dec 15, but will reform into a new party that is already set up.

4. The Amnesty that is currently granted once a year from HRM will be seeded to the PM to grant.

5. The Monarchy will cease to exist in a few years.

6. Both the major and minor players of the PAD will be severely punished, so as to set an example to other not to oppose corruption in the government.

The bottom line is a few will take control of this country, use it for personal gain, and what ever the heart and soul of Thailand has been for hundreds of years, it will become a shell of its former self.

I for one do not want to see a coup, but would much rather see the Constitutional Court disband the current PPP party ahead of the Dec 15 schedule. Have the court take control of the country, and set up a better way to run it.

Well said

Great idea! The problem is that Thailand has no Constitutional Court at present. There is a kangaroo court installed by the military in 2006 that is attempting to put through their political agenda. Maybe some day!

[KhaoNiaw]

Thanks for that post Old Wanderer.

These are the reasons why the PAD have genuine support. For people I know this is not about having appointed MPs, taking the vote away from rural bumpkins, etc. They believe they are fighting against the things you have listed there. Agree with them or not, it isn't that difficult to understand why they are taking action.

[Nampeung]

Yeah On-On know what you mean. My half Thai son still squats like that on our Western loo

[blaze]

Blaze .. so you are saying that people in a democracy do NOT have the right to protest for the removal of an elected official? WOW! I think that is a first!

THey have a right to say what ever they want (within limits). Certainly they can legally demand the PM step down. BUt in so doing, they are thumbing their nose at the principle of due process which is enshrined in the constitution. If they do not respect that principle, then their committment to democractic ideals- including respect for the wishes of the majority, has to be questioned.

Having said that though, I also recognize that without the PAD protests, the order to the courts to 'do their jobs' would possibly never have been given.

But Thaksin's opponents would have garnered more legitimacy had they been protesting court verdicts,government policy or even demanding impeachment- all of which are not just rights of citizens- but when warranted, obligations.

Edited November 29, 2008 by blaze

[tigerbeer]

so i just got up and on the forum and nothings changed from yesterday and the day before?

[Nampeung]

Yes Tiger it seems to be like that... I'm even reduced to discussing Asian toilet habits cos there is so little news from the airport

[Asian Frog]

About the tittle 3PM: which day?

Your guess....

[cougar52]

I can't see why the PAD would leave. Free food, air conditioning and lots of attention. Freedom to act like you are the ones making the shots without any repercussions. My Thai friend told me on her way to work she was offered 500 Baht to join a PAD protest at the Emporium but she declined. Until the Government makes it clear that PAD will be punished and prosecuted there are going to be lots of people who think that 500 Baht and minor celebrity is a pretty sweet deal. I am all for a peaceful resolution if possible but I think we are already past that point and lessons need to be learned, examples need to be made of those who flagrantly ignore the law.

If you have a grievance there are civil ways to protest.

I agree. Send Somchai and his Thaksin cronies far, far away.

Or offer Bht 10Mil to anyone who returns him to Thailand to face his well deserved gaol sentence.

I would agree with that plan as long as they put the PAD 9 in the same cell. They are as guilty as the Thaksin group. PAD in the last 5 or 6 days have cost Thailand more money than Thaksin ever stole (the estimated cost in lost of the airport closure --over $2.5 billion US Dollars)

[BangkokBP]

Chamlong alerts protesters to move from Government House to Bangkok airport

Chamlong Srimuang, a co-leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, woke up protesters inside the government House complex at 6 am Saturday, telling them to get ready to travel to the Suvarnabhumi International Airport.

The protesters were told to board buses at the Nang Lerng Racecourse at 7 am.

The were told to bring along foods and drinking water.

The nation

Edited November 29, 2008 by BangkokBP

[BangkokBP]

Protesters seizing airports must respect law : Convicted Thaksin

By The Nation

Fugitive ex-Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has called for anti-government protesters who seized Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang airports to respect the laws or face legal action.

He warned that if they did not respect the law, "law enforcement must be done."

Thaksin has been on the run after being sentenced in absentia to two years in jail on corruption charges in Thailand.

He was referring to seizing of the airports by protesters led by People's Alliance for Democracy, which reached the fifth day on Saturday.

Thai Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, who is Thaksin's brother in law, has issued state of emergency both airports. The move was seen as a tool to allow police to disperse them.

"The airports must be reopened and the protesters must respect not only the law, but the citizens of Thailand," thaksin said. "If no one respects the law, then law enforcement must be done."

He also warned that should the military launch a coup, it would be much more bloody than the previously occasions. He also warned the army to stay out of politics, predicting bloodshed if they stage a coup.

"If the coup were to happen, there's going to be bloodshed. It's not going to be an easy coup like in the past because the people are in hardship since dictatorship came to Thailand," thaksin said.

Thaksin urged his supporters to "protect democracy": "If you protect Democracy you may be painful for a while, but if you allow dictatorship to take over Thailand you are going to have a nightmare for your whole life."

Thaksin said without elaboration, "so-called independent agencies or courts

had been mobilised to bias against the government. That's very bad.

Thaksin's message to the military: "They are officials whose salary is paid by taxpayer money, so they have to do what is wanted by the whole of the Thai people, not just for minority groups. They must respect Democracy. They must play by the rules. Being neutral means you have to observe the law."

Thaksin was speaking to Thomas Crampton, a freelance blogger in a videotaped interview. Crampton said the interview came out whenhe had coffee with Thaksin. "He spoke passionately about this week's events in Thailand," he wrote.

The date and time of the interview was not known. It was posted on Crampton's blog on Friday.

[esprit]

Protesters seizing airports must respect law : Convicted Thaksin

By The Nation

Fugitive ex-Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has called for anti-government protesters who seized Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang airports to respect the laws or face legal action.

He warned that if they did not respect the law, "law enforcement must be done."

Thaksin has been on the run after being sentenced in absentia to two years in jail on corruption charges in Thailand.

He was referring to seizing of the airports by protesters led by People's Alliance for Democracy, which reached the fifth day on Saturday.

Thai Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, who is Thaksin's brother in law, has issued state of emergency both airports. The move was seen as a tool to allow police to disperse them.

"The airports must be reopened and the protesters must respect not only the law, but the citizens of Thailand," thaksin said. "If no one respects the law, then law enforcement must be done."

He also warned that should the military launch a coup, it would be much more bloody than the previously occasions. He also warned the army to stay out of politics, predicting bloodshed if they stage a coup.

"If the coup were to happen, there's going to be bloodshed. It's not going to be an easy coup like in the past because the people are in hardship since dictatorship came to Thailand," thaksin said.

Thaksin urged his supporters to "protect democracy": "If you protect Democracy you may be painful for a while, but if you allow dictatorship to take over Thailand you are going to have a nightmare for your whole life."

Thaksin said without elaboration, "so-called independent agencies or courts

had been mobilised to bias against the government. That's very bad.

Thaksin's message to the military: "They are officials whose salary is paid by taxpayer money, so they have to do what is wanted by the whole of the Thai people, not just for minority groups. They must respect Democracy. They must play by the rules. Being neutral means you have to observe the law."

Thaksin was speaking to Thomas Crampton, a freelance blogger in a videotaped interview. Crampton said the interview came out whenhe had coffee with Thaksin. "He spoke passionately about this week's events in Thailand," he wrote.

The date and time of the interview was not known. It was posted on Crampton's blog on Friday.

Are the worlds best known criminal on the run and he is advising others to respect the law. Shame he was not in Chine, they would have stopped his and his bent family's massive corruption and criminal activities - permanently

[Xangsamhua]

ASTV reports that the police are refusing all access to the airports, including Red Cross. Is that legal?

PAD have a counter-strategy, to surround the police detachments.

The end is approaching?

[Tex79]

Thaksin's obviously should be in jail and should not try and tell Thailand what they should do....Thaksins greed is why this country is the way it is today! Thaksin is just trying to help his puppet "Thai Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat".

[ChiangMaiThai]

Chamlong alerts protesters to move from Government House to Bangkok airport

Chamlong Srimuang, a co-leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, woke up protesters inside the government House complex at 6 am Saturday, telling them to get ready to travel to the Suvarnabhumi International Airport.

The protesters were told to board buses at the Nang Lerng Racecourse at 7 am.

The were told to bring along foods and drinking water.

The nation

How can they get past the police who have supposedly been 2ks from the airport since last night???

[cougar52]

PAD are holding the ace card

Send in the police and we will cause enough damage to keep this Airport closed for weeks.

Why not just put Either or sleeping gas in the Air Conditioned, then just go in and carry then all and they can sleep it off in their cells

[BangkokBP]

Chamlong alerts protesters to move from Government House to Bangkok airport

Chamlong Srimuang, a co-leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, woke up protesters inside the government House complex at 6 am Saturday, telling them to get ready to travel to the Suvarnabhumi International Airport.

The protesters were told to board buses at the Nang Lerng Racecourse at 7 am.

The were told to bring along foods and drinking water.

The nation

How can they get past the police who have supposedly been 2ks from the airport since last night???

I'm curious about that too. I suppose the police cant surround the whole airport efficiently and they plan to "sneak" in at some point.

[Tex79]

PAD are holding the ace card

Send in the police and we will cause enough damage to keep this Airport closed for weeks.

Why not just put Either or sleeping gas in the Air Conditioned, then just go in and carry then all and they can sleep it off in their cells

Perfect...except there are not enough cells...I personally think this PAD should be charged but not the same extent as Thaksin & his brother-in-law & followers(for taking over the flying of the corruption plane)!

The PAD are ultimatley acting in self defense as a result of Thaksin's prior actions...the party acting in self defense will always face the lesser charge!

Edited November 29, 2008 by Tex79

[cougar52]

Gravelrash -- see post 128

then point out where I said it was not true when responding to you

then explain how Sondhi's business's financial standings relate to the PAD? (again the restructuring of his businesses seems to date from 1999)

Duh I would think that statement needs no rebutal, except in the same vane what how does Thaksin's financial standings relate to TRT, PPP, Thailand.

[BangkokBP]

PAD are holding the ace card

Send in the police and we will cause enough damage to keep this Airport closed for weeks.

Why not just put Either or sleeping gas in the Air Conditioned, then just go in and carry then all and they can sleep it off in their cells

Like the Moscow Theater hostage situation in 2002 where 129 hostages and 39 terrorists died?

Besides, most of the protesters seems to be sitting outside.

[petedk]

Chamlong alerts protesters to move from Government House to Bangkok airport

Chamlong Srimuang, a co-leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, woke up protesters inside the government House complex at 6 am Saturday, telling them to get ready to travel to the Suvarnabhumi International Airport.

The protesters were told to board buses at the Nang Lerng Racecourse at 7 am.

The were told to bring along foods and drinking water.

The nation

How can they get past the police who have supposedly been 2ks from the airport since last night???

I'm curious about that too. I suppose the police cant surround the whole airport efficiently and they plan to "sneak" in at some point.

They can't get past. It's live on TV now.

[petedk]

The police have a helicopter in the air possibly looking for entrance points.

[Tonycheston]

What channel is showing live?

[petedk]

TNN is showing live.

[animatic]

Protesters seizing airports must respect law : Convicted Thaksin

By The Nation

Fugitive ex-Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has called for anti-government protesters who seized Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang airports to respect the laws or face legal action.

He warned that if they did not respect the law, "law enforcement must be done."

Thaksin has been on the run after being sentenced in absentia to two years in jail on corruption charges in Thailand.

He was referring to seizing of the airports by protesters led by People's Alliance for Democracy, which reached the fifth day on Saturday.

Thai Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, who is Thaksin's brother in law, has issued state of emergency both airports. The move was seen as a tool to allow police to disperse them.

"The airports must be reopened and the protesters must respect not only the law, but the citizens of Thailand," thaksin said. "If no one respects the law, then law enforcement must be done."

He also warned that should the military launch a coup, it would be much more bloody than the previously occasions. He also warned the army to stay out of politics, predicting bloodshed if they stage a coup.

"If the coup were to happen, there's going to be bloodshed. It's not going to be an easy coup like in the past because the people are in hardship since dictatorship came to Thailand," thaksin said.

Thaksin urged his supporters to "protect democracy": "If you protect Democracy you may be painful for a while, but if you allow dictatorship to take over Thailand you are going to have a nightmare for your whole life."

Thaksin said without elaboration, "so-called independent agencies or courts

had been mobilised to bias against the government. That's very bad.

Thaksin's message to the military: "They are officials whose salary is paid by taxpayer money, so they have to do what is wanted by the whole of the Thai people, not just for minority groups. They must respect Democracy. They must play by the rules. Being neutral means you have to observe the law."

Thaksin was speaking to Thomas Crampton, a freelance blogger in a videotaped interview. Crampton said the interview came out whenhe had coffee with Thaksin. "He spoke passionately about this week's events in Thailand," he wrote.

The date and time of the interview was not known. It was posted on Crampton's blog on Friday.

Are the worlds best known criminal on the run and he is advising others to respect the law. Shame he was not in Chine, they would have stopped his and his bent family's massive corruption and criminal activities - permanently

Yeah it is pretty clear why Thaky doesn't even consider asking for China residence...

Wouldn't last the year before they give him what for. Like several chinese pols before him.

[Tonycheston]

Is TNN available online?

If so what is their website? I can't find it

[BangkokBP]

US express concerns on Bangkok airport's seizures

The U.S. government called on Friday for the end of the standoff at Thailand airports protesting against its government, Xinhua reported. "While we respect the right to freedom of expression, seizing an airport is not an appropriate means of protest," the State Department's acting deputy spokesman Gordon Duguid said in a statement.