Lies

[ProfessorFart]

I think Item (1) is rarely feasible. Love seems to come first.

I disagree Richard W. Lust and passion come first. Often mistaken for love, but very different.

[Khutan]

even boasted that she will have a child before me and my girl do.  Which I think is quite impossible, heheh.

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Maybe Ying in her adventures got a very common STD and had blocked fallopian tubes.....

That might set her aspirations back a bit...

[peder.klockmann]

As for Ms Ying.....Mr peder...I am happy u are not my friend !

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I'm not that guys friend yet, although I know I will be in the near future; I don't really know him at all. Right now I am the girls' friend, at the present time I am on their side of the fence.

Plus, Ying only Married en Mark because he had money, only planned on love to come with time. She still loves the Island guy even though he treats her like crap and doesn't take care of her. Lately she has been staying with my girl to try and seperate herself from the Island Guy.

Maybe Ying in her adventures got a very common STD and had blocked fallopian tubes..... 

That might set her aspirations back a bit... 

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I don't wish that on anybody. I mean it is messed up what she is doing and, I don't like it one bit. And, who am I to judge? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." I wish her the best, I know she will have a very happy life if she chooses the correct path in the future.

"Life is nothing but an Illusion, once you understand that, then you understand life."

[toastwars]

Are you looking forward to the day, when after a few months of married life you find out that Ying and Mark have been holding back the information that your GF has been seeing someone else behind your back, and does not love you, is only marrying you for your money? Morals are the same wherever you go in the world and perhaps by doing the right thing and telling this guy you may set a few ground rules for your own colluding girlfriend. Draw the line if she does not like it then tell her to sling her hook too, being complicit in a lie is just as bad. If you have a problem post this guys email and we will tell him, just cos he is a sap does not mean you should allow him to be hurt or ripped off, does not sound like the marrage would be a long termer anyway

[peder.klockmann]

Are you looking forward to the day, when after a few months of married life you find out that Ying and Mark have been holding back the information that your GF has been seeing someone else behind your back, and does not love you, is only marrying you for your money? Morals are the same wherever you go in the world and perhaps by doing the right thing and telling this guy you may set a few ground rules for your own colluding girlfriend. Draw the line if she does not like it then tell her to sling her hook too, being complicit in a lie is just as bad. If you have a problem post this guys email and we will tell him, just cos he is a sap does not mean you should allow him to be hurt or ripped off, does not sound like the marrage would be a long termer anyway

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lol, What goes around comes around? I don't have the guys email, I don't know him that well.

My girl had the same problem, with a guy from England; she loved him and was hard for her to let go at first. I understood perfectly. I wasn't worried at all though because I know I am the "better catch", in more ways than one.

I know at first she only wanted me because I had money, she told me. She told me she allready had a man from England. The England guy even told her to take my money and run. She told me that she couldn't because "she loved me" and, she didn't think that the other guy would be able to take care of her, lol. The England guy F*kd up, she is an awesome trustworty woman. Plus he is Immature, even threatend to end his own life if she didn't reply to his SMS messages. What a stupid F*k. He tried to ruin the relationship she has with me (mess with her income - in all honesty, I know it). Basically, she hates him now; and, he is emotionally/mentally unstable

She doesn't feed me bull$hit and, I don't giver her any in return. I've told her in the begging of our relationship that the only thing I care about is honesty. She tells me what goes on with her, and I tell her what goes on with me. I have passes taken at me regularly by women, I don't know why, I am nothing to look at; but, I'm completely monogamous and tell her everything. She has about 3-5 requests a day; oh man she is a Beutiful Woman. Even her darn English teacher asks every day if she is going to drink tonight and where; lol she tells me "I hate England men".

Every girl is different; they cannot be all classified as the same. There might only be an extremely small percentage that actually want (and are able to) to be honest with their partner and, mine is one of them. Ying unfortunately is not (I am sure she wants to but is havning trouble letting go of her previous love). I am not going to hold it against her, I am open minded, I am able to see it through her eyes; even though I disagree, I know it is difficult for her. I know she plans on being honst with en Mark, ###### she want's to have a ###### kid with the man. I think she should have waited, told en Mark that she still has feelings for someone else and needs time to be able to let them go. She must have been afraid that some other Brod would have stolen him from her and, did what she thought was best.

[NarrLing]

Have you ever thought of the mental suffering a child will go through once they separate?

My thoughts are this is a marriage that won’t last and you will definitely be unwillingly dragged into the nasty mess when enMark discovers her indiscretions. Trust me; you will be. Ying is a close friend of your girl. I’ve seen this happen many times and been involved in similar situations.

Its obvious Ying only wants to get pregnant to have a hold over enMark. Baby, divorce, money from enMark, continue to play on enMarks love for his child, get more money, back to old ways to find another sucker to marry.

Maybe it’s worth telling enMark. You may lose a potential friend or you may gain a long term very grateful mate.

Don’t forget all the suffering you will save their future child.

NL

[peder.klockmann]

Have you ever thought of the mental suffering a child will go through once they separate?

My thoughts are this is a marriage that won’t last and you will definitely be unwillingly dragged into the nasty mess when enMark discovers her indiscretions. Trust me; you will be. Ying is a close friend of your girl. I’ve seen this happen many times and been involved in similar situations.

Its obvious Ying only wants to get pregnant to have a hold over enMark. Baby, divorce, money from enMark, continue to play on enMarks love for his child, get more money, back to old ways to find another sucker to marry.

Maybe it’s worth telling enMark. You may lose a potential friend or you may gain a long term very grateful mate.

Don’t forget all the suffering you will save their future child.

NL

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NaarLing,

I am afraid that you are 100% correct. The future child aspect really puts things into a tangable perspective. I think I'm going to have a talk with Ying. Convince her that it is better for her future with enMark to tell him about her difficulties with letting go of the Island resident. If she tells him, and is Honest to the full extent, explaining why; I am sure enMark will be able to understand. If not maybe I'll enter the role of a counslor for the two of them, sit them both down and hash it out.

[a2396]

Does sound like a broken record and similar to my story under Money, Money, Money. Mine was in Thailand and I still do not know all the circumstances, but 2+2 did not = 4. I suspect a boyfriend (Thai) calling the shots for money requests, quality time for himself, etc. I finally left and she has not interest in me now, says don't come back. She is probably in the process of "trading up" to another Farang in Thailand, who will be more generous with the money and will not be staying with her full time, IE one who will travel in & out of Thailand. (more time for boyfriend). Quite disgusting, but there are some good ones, or at least so I am told. Still looking.

[peder.klockmann]

Have you ever thought of the mental suffering a child will go through once they separate?

My thoughts are this is a marriage that won’t last and you will definitely be unwillingly dragged into the nasty mess when enMark discovers her indiscretions. Trust me; you will be. Ying is a close friend of your girl. I’ve seen this happen many times and been involved in similar situations.

Its obvious Ying only wants to get pregnant to have a hold over enMark. Baby, divorce, money from enMark, continue to play on enMarks love for his child, get more money, back to old ways to find another sucker to marry.

Maybe it’s worth telling enMark. You may lose a potential friend or you may gain a long term very grateful mate.

Don’t forget all the suffering you will save their future child.

NL

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NaarLing,

I am afraid that you are 100% correct. The future child aspect really puts things into a tangable perspective. I think I'm going to have a talk with Ying. Convince her that it is better for her future with enMark to tell him about her difficulties with letting go of the Island resident. If she tells him, and is Honest to the full extent, explaining why; I am sure enMark will be able to understand. If not maybe I'll enter the role of a counslor for the two of them, sit them both down and hash it out.

[peder.klockmann]

Well it looks like Ying has gotten herself into quite a pickle. It seems she might now be pregnant. She hasn't done a test yet, but her last menstration was the 22nd of December so I am sure she probably has already ovulated. She had sex with the Island guy (Actually Iceland, not Island - communication error on my part, lmao I thought they meant Island) without a condom and, he finished inside of her (a few days ago). She is worried so much and doesn't know what to do. She left today to go home and I assume to sort things out in her head.

My girl said well Ying isn't a baby, she made her own decisions and, now she has to live with them. The only thing is that I am afraid that she will end the childs life if that is the case. That is an entirely different discussion which I will not be taking place in on a forum. Even with discresion I don't believe that that is something I should air out on the internet. I personally don't believe in it, unless there are complications that will result in death of the Mother.

I hope she will be able to find it in her clouded heart to tell Denmark about the situation. This is a troubled time for her but as my girl stated, she is a grown woman and must make her own decisions; I can only guide her into the best direction.

With the rise of events if she decides to cointinue with Denmark withuot filling him in I now feel that I am obligated to do so.

[Lotnoy]

I don't blame those people who have suggested that my original post was a "troll" because a lot of what I said has been quite general. I didnot want to give specific examples of the lies and deceptions with names dates and places because this is an open forum.

I posted it for two reasons 1) to get it off my chest and 2) maybe it will make some other reader a little more cautious when considering a relationship with a Thai. I know there must be some honest nice Thai ladies out there but what my wife has done seems so "text book"- everything that people warn you about. I cant help thinking there is a conspiracy going on !

I used to be the biggest defender of Thailand when i heard negative things said about the country and sterotypes about the women but now i really believe that the majority of Thai women that marry Ferangs are in it for money and a visa. Thats not a problem if the guy realises this but I think that like me a lot of them fool themselves its for love. I never thought i would say this and call be a scinic but ive seen too much and any trust I had has been shattered

I'm only speaking from my personal experiences and observations, i know that it is unfair to generalise about people but i'm only saying what i believe to be true I'm sure other people will have a different opinion and think i'm wrong

I wish this was a " troll post" because then my situation would not be so sad..

Edited January 13, 2005 by Lotnoy

[spike]

Peder,

On second thought, none of my business.

Edited January 14, 2005 by spike