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The End of Israel ?

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She makes an argument that Israel as we know it may cease to exist.

Jews are already a minority,

Israel is losing settlers through emigration and not getting as many settlers as it once did.

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  • AI is great. First, the verse from Qur'an (5:21) is being taken out of context. In that passage, Moses is addressing a specific group - the Children of Israel at a particular historical moment. Many I

  • Especially now, with Social media allowing no censorship(no not that social Media 😂) the world is seeing Israeli crimes against humanity.

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    Here's a worst case scenario: The Gulf States staked their future on an American security umbrella. Events of the last 3 weeks show that umbrella has lots of holes. The Gulf States know one thing the

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Israelis were told by the Zionists in being told Israel was a "safe place".

Now more and more are realizing they were lied to.

Here is the video:

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Massive demonstrations by ultra-Orthodox Jews because of a change in policy for forced conscription.

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You wish LOL

30 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

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27 % of French people considered leaving France in 2025 :)

A record 27% of French adults in 2025 expressed a desire to leave

France

permanently, driven by severe dissatisfaction with political instability, economic concerns, and tax burdens.

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

27 % of French people considered leaving France in 2025 :)

A record 27% of French adults in 2025 expressed a desire to leave

France

permanently, driven by severe dissatisfaction with political instability, economic concerns, and tax burdens.

The End of France? Need a topic.

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10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

27 % of French people considered leaving France in 2025 :)

So it's the end of France too maybe?

Eastern Europe will surpass Western Europe by 2040.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

She makes an argument that Israel as we know it may cease to exist.

Jews are already a minority,

Israel is losing settlers through emigration and not getting as many settlers as it once did.

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And it's been anticipated by Sharon and Netanyahu. That's why they dropped the idea of annexing the whole Palestine and chose to focus on specific areas.

38 minutes ago, candide said:

And it's been anticipated by Sharon and Netanyahu. That's why they dropped the idea of annexing the whole Palestine and chose to focus on specific areas.

Shouldnt you be worried about Sharia Law in France?

O wait, nvm

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One can only hope, the sooner the better.

Israel had become exactly what Hannah Arendt predicted and warned against.

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Here's a worst case scenario:

The Gulf States staked their future on an American security umbrella. Events of the last 3 weeks show that umbrella has lots of holes. The Gulf States know one thing they absolutely cannot change is geography. They are always going to be near Iran. (I've been monitoring some of the Gulf press, and my view here is not exactly novel. There are voices that should give the US and Israel cause for concern.)

The Gulf States know full well that if Trump suddenly decides he has "won" and for his own reasons decides to leave the war, the GCC States still have Iran to deal with. Iran is not bound by any decision from Trump, so the US abandoning the Gulf would leave GCC States even more vulnerable. Just ask the Kurds if the US really cares about any alliances or promises it has made.

The Gulf States and Iran have much more in common than the Gulf States and the US or Israel. Yes, there's the 1400 year old Sunni-Shia thing, but both sides are Moslem. Culturally, and certainly in a religious sense, the GCC States are much closer to Iran.

There is a certain kind of practicality that might make the Gulf States find a way to make amends with Iran and decide the real bad neighbor in the region is Israel. This war could destroy the relationship Gulf States have with the US, as well as break the tenuous acceptance of those States of Israel. Weighing a Middle East without Iran vs a Middle East without Israel is probably a 50:50 proposition in the eyes of the GCC. They might think both scenarios result in a peaceful region.

Most of the Gulf States are heavily armed, mostly with US weapons. They do represent a legitimate force, combined. Most also have good relations with China, so even if some day the US cut off weapons shipments, the GCC has plenty of money to buy from China, even Russia.

This war has also taught everyone in the world that "Have Nukes, Have Peace", or at least a nation with nukes is free from an attack by the US. The Gulf States know that as well as anyone. It will come as no surprise if Saudi Arabia, and maybe the UAE, embark on their own nuke program. Iran is also going to redouble its efforts and may find aid in the form of neighboring Pakistan, or even China.

A nuclear armed Gulf would not sit well with Israel, but there is little it could do against a unified Gulf that has not only armed up, but also made amends with Iran, it's first cousin once removed. Toss in Pakistan, who would be happy to join a Moslem armed forces, and things could get ugly over the next few years.

7 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Here's a worst case scenario:

The Gulf States staked their future on an American security umbrella. Events of the last 3 weeks show that umbrella has lots of holes. The Gulf States know one thing they absolutely cannot change is geography. They are always going to be near Iran. (I've been monitoring some of the Gulf press, and my view here is not exactly novel. There are voices that should give the US and Israel cause for concern.)

The Gulf States know full well that if Trump suddenly decides he has "won" and for his own reasons decides to leave the war, the GCC States still have Iran to deal with. Iran is not bound by any decision from Trump, so the US abandoning the Gulf would leave GCC States even more vulnerable. Just ask the Kurds if the US really cares about any alliances or promises it has made.

The Gulf States and Iran have much more in common than the Gulf States and the US or Israel. Yes, there's the 1400 year old Sunni-Shia thing, but both sides are Moslem. Culturally, and certainly in a religious sense, the GCC States are much closer to Iran.

There is a certain kind of practicality that might make the Gulf States find a way to make amends with Iran and decide the real bad neighbor in the region is Israel. This war could destroy the relationship Gulf States have with the US, as well as break the tenuous acceptance of those States of Israel. Weighing a Middle East without Iran vs a Middle East without Israel is probably a 50:50 proposition in the eyes of the GCC. They might think both scenarios result in a peaceful region.

Most of the Gulf States are heavily armed, mostly with US weapons. They do represent a legitimate force, combined. Most also have good relations with China, so even if some day the US cut off weapons shipments, the GCC has plenty of money to buy from China, even Russia.

This war has also taught everyone in the world that "Have Nukes, Have Peace", or at least a nation with nukes is free from an attack by the US. The Gulf States know that as well as anyone. It will come as no surprise if Saudi Arabia, and maybe the UAE, embark on their own nuke program. Iran is also going to redouble its efforts and may find aid in the form of neighboring Pakistan, or even China.

A nuclear armed Gulf would not sit well with Israel, but there is little it could do against a unified Gulf that has not only armed up, but also made amends with Iran, it's first cousin once removed. Toss in Pakistan, who would be happy to join a Moslem armed forces, and things could get ugly over the next few years.

Have you lived in a Muslim country. Until you do you will never understand the difference in the 2 types of Islam. They literally hate each other hence Iraq Iran war and a lot of the terrorist actions in Pakistan.

Pakistan will never use the nuclear option because India has the same button. They have come close. The challenge is that there is a lack of trust.

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12 hours ago, save the frogs said:

She makes an argument that Israel as we know it may cease to exist.

Jews are already a minority,

Israel is losing settlers through emigration and not getting as many settlers as it once did.

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"It's territories"?

She is falsely claiming that Gaza, West Bank, Golan Heights, East Jerusalem are Israeli territories.

These areas have been occupied, stolen, blockaded, controlled by Israel, which was the cause of all the conflicts. Israel needs to be taught a lesson and I do agree it is finished but will take ten years.

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Also, they used non citizens of Israel n the calculation. Arabs, even ones from that area are discriminated against when it comes to citizenship. A bagel shop owner in Brooklyn will get citizenship easier purely due to being Jewish.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Israel had become exactly what Hannah Arendt predicted and warned against.

Israel became what Allah gave Jews- the Holy Land

Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:21). Moses says, “O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back or you will be losers” (The Quran, 5:21).

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13 minutes ago, visalady said:

Israel became what Allah gave Jews- the Holy Land

Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:21). Moses says, “O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back or you will be losers” (The Quran, 5:21).

AI is great.

First, the verse from Qur'an (5:21) is being taken out of context. In that passage, Moses is addressing a specific group - the Children of Israel at a particular historical moment. Many Islamic scholars interpret this as a conditional, time-bound instruction, not a permanent, unconditional grant of land to all Jews for all time. The surrounding verses actually show that the people refused to enter, which complicates the idea of a straightforward divine entitlement.

Second, the argument assumes that a religious text can be used as a modern political title deed. That’s highly contestable. Neither the Qur'an nor other scriptures like the Torah or Bible function as legal documents in contemporary international law. Modern states, including Israel, are recognised through political processes, not scriptural citations.

Third, within Islamic interpretation itself, there is no consensus that this verse justifies modern claims. Many scholars argue that:

  • The “Holy Land” is a place of responsibility and obedience, not permanent ownership.

  • Divine favour is tied to righteousness, not ethnicity.

  • Later Islamic teachings emphasise justice and coexistence over exclusive claims.

Finally, even if one accepted a religious basis, different traditions make competing claims to the same land. Appealing to one verse doesn’t resolve those conflicts - it simply privileges one interpretation over others.

So the claim oversimplifies a complex theological passage and stretches it into a modern political argument that the text itself does not clearly support.

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14 hours ago, save the frogs said:

She makes an argument that Israel as we know it may cease to exist.

Jews are already a minority,

Israel is losing settlers through emigration and not getting as many settlers as it once did.

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Exactly like Apartheid South Africa back in the day. And like Apartheid South Africa, the Israel of today will eventually meet the same fate.

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1 minute ago, connda said:

Exactly like Apartheid South Africa back in the day. And like Apartheid South Africa, the Israel of today will eventually meet the same fate.

Especially now, with Social media allowing no censorship(no not that social Media 😂) the world is seeing Israeli crimes against humanity.

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3 hours ago, JimCM said:

Israel needs to be taught a lesson and I do agree it is finished but will take ten years.

How did you calculate that?

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3 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Have you lived in a Muslim country. Until you do you will never understand the difference in the 2 types of Islam. They literally hate each other hence Iraq Iran war and a lot of the terrorist actions in Pakistan.

Pakistan will never use the nuclear option because India has the same button. They have come close. The challenge is that there is a lack of trust.

Yes, I have lived in a Moslem country. I also read, write and speak Arabic. I can get by in Farsi, too. I know the 1400 year history of Sunni vs Shi'a. The divide is significantly less than the divide between Islam and Judaism. Iran is rather flexible in its belief Shi'ites good, Sunnis bad. Iran has given refuge to Sunni terrorists, such as the son of ObL.

There is a saying in the Arab world that also applies to the entire Moslem world:

Me against my brother; my brother and I against you.

As for India, I suspect they would be happy for Pakistan to spend its nuclear weapons and missiles on Israel. Besides, India gets a lot of its oil from Iran, so they have skin in the game.

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Some of u guys are really up on your Torah / Bible / Quran / Middle East geopolitics, man.

And most likely, the end of US hegemony as the trope that the US "protects" its allies when it can't protect its own interests.

S. Korea: "What are you doing with our THAAD batteries?"
US: "Sorry, but you're not 'chosen.'"

The Emperor of the World and God of the Galaxy: "The US giveth, the US taketh away."

At the end of the day, US allies may figure it out the hard way that joining the multi-polar global majority will make them more secure and economically better off.

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It's certainly interesting that a senior US intelligence official has resigned citing Israel's pressure to go to war and railroading the US into this as a key reason for his resignation. If true, that would mean that once again a certain people has dragged the world into war and caused untold misery, death, and destruction.

Just as a certain someone predicted would happen.

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It's certainly interesting that a senior US intelligence official has resigned citing Israel's pressure to go to war and railroading the US into this as a key reason for his resignation. If true, that would mean that once again a certain people has dragged the world into war and caused untold misery, death, and destruction.

Just as a certain someone predicted would happen.

A certain people?

Don't be shy. What people?

As far as Netanyahu snookering moron Trump into this war, suppose he did try.

Does any president of the United States have agency to say NO!

Previous U.S. presidents faced the same kind of games from Netenyahu.

Yet they said NO!

So blaming who you're blaming (you're fooling nobody) is total B.S.

The blame is on Trump.

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Does any president of the United States have agency to say NO!

Previous U.S. presidents faced the same kind of games from Netenyahu.

Yet they said NO!

So blaming who you're blaming (you're fooling nobody) is total B.S.

The blame is on Trump.

A bit hard to say "No" when your daughter is married to them.

We should blame her clearly.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

A bit hard to say "No" when your daughter is married to them.

We should blame her clearly.

Them?

Who is them?

You're so shy.

So you're promoting yet another conspiracy theory.
Of course any president can say no.

But this president is a weak loser.

If the US withdrew all support to Israel it is questionable whether or not the state could continue to exist. Israel has made itself a complete and total pariah within a region where it's already isolated. And the extremists that seem to be influencing the government do not seem to be going away anytime soon. All the lessons of the Holocaust seem to have been forgotten and one can easily make a case that Israel is losing it's right to exist.

Just now, Cameroni said:

Yes, but unfortunately this conspiracy is true, the government of Israel pressured the United States to unleash a catastrophic war against Iran, as that served Israel's interests.

Trump did not say "No" because he is linked by family to the same people, they're "HIS" people too. He's not "weak" just pursuing his own interest, just like Israel. At the cost of dead men, women and children, and all of us.

So you mean all Jews. Just be a man and say it.

Trump is not a Jew and Trump as president of the United States is responsible for his own actions.

Agreed Netanyahu pressured him.

He did the same to multiple previous presidents.

But none before Trump were so stupid and weak as to fall for that.

Reminds me somewhat of how Trump seems to worship Putin.

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