Putting Off My Visit To Thailand

[keemapoot]

Welcome back Weho (Paul). Good to see you posting outside of Pattaya forum. Looking forward to more laughs.

[mrtoad]

I am coming. I am moving my visit from October to December. BUT the fun begins when I tell my boss I want to spend Christmas & New Years in Thailand so he can't have the holiday off! LOL

The doctor's given you leave papers?

Edited July 14, 2009 by mrtoad

[mrtoad]

It appears that the OP is serious, although I have to admit that I thought it was a joke as well. Having read some of his other topics, I think he means what he says.

Thanks for reading my older topics. I am flattered and humbled Many would not take the time to do that.

No need to be flattered or humbled, oddballs always are quite memorable.

[Jingthing]

the likelihood of infection from a crowd is pretty low now.

I disagree.

[norwayeagle]

So much animosity towards Paul. I think 80% of the members here don't actually understand what a troll or trolling is. Sheesh.

http://www.snl.no/.bilde/Norge_%28Turisme%...Hunderfossen%29 thats what i call i Troll

[qwertz]

OP, you must know by now that ALL tourist destinations attract all manner of thieves, scammers, tricksters, prostitures and liars.

The worst characters I've found there were mostly my own compatriots, Thais are pussy cats in comparison.

Avoid the tourism and go see Thailand, there's a lot to see and if the folks in the sticks try to hit on you - well, at least it will cost you

less.

[les Dennis]

Paul, why are you quoting the lyrics of the opening credits to Monk? It's a comedy TV show about a compulsive obsessive that is afraid of milk! I am beginning to see some alarming similarities here.

[Birdman]

The OP has to work on his travel anxieties (vendors, soi dogs, lady boys). The therapy pre coming to LOS would be a motorbike cruise through Southern Algeria or hitch hiking through North Eastern Colombia as proper methods. The ultimate drastic cure is a swim through Sharks Bay/South Western Australia.

[mauGR1]

The OP has to work on his travel anxieties (vendors, soi dogs, lady boys). The therapy pre coming to LOS would be a motorbike cruise through Southern Algeria or hitch hiking through North Eastern Colombia as proper methods. The ultimate drastic cure is a swim through Sharks Bay/South Western Australia.

Very well thought,and if he survives the mighty sharks,he could wear a yellow shirt and do a parachute diving in the middle of a Reds demonstration

[PaulUSA302]

OP, you must know by now that ALL tourist destinations attract all manner of thieves, scammers, tricksters, prostitures and liars.

The worst characters I've found there were mostly my own compatriots, Thais are pussy cats in comparison.

Avoid the tourism and go see Thailand, there's a lot to see and if the folks in the sticks try to hit on you - well, at least it will cost you

less.

Oh, sure... But this is a Thailand forum to talk about all things Thai. So I posted my thoughts related to my coming holiday in Thailand.

I remembered my last visit and how often I was pestered. How my pocket was almost picked (Not the first attempt and I am sure it won't be their last). How some vendors were rude and nasty with me because I would not buy from them and on and on. I ask myself... Hmmmm... Now if things were that bad when the place was filled with tourist, how will it be now that the tourist numbers are low?

Then I talk to my friends who live there and they tell me about trusted friends stealing from them. Old friends calling out of the blue begging for money. Police who use to ignore them now give them the hairy eyeball and taking the time to search them for no real reason. Then I read the news about visitors being attacked, drugged, hung, shot, set-up in traps.

I ask myself again. I say Paul.. (I answer myself by saying "Yes Paul?") Now, given the hairy situations you found yourself in during your last visit, do you think it is wise to go there when the tourist numbers are so low and you are more likely to be on the radar for those who would do you dirty? And I say, "Maybe I should wait for the High Season, even if the High Season is not so high." There is safety in numbers after all.

I have been to Thailand before and I know the risks. If your there and you live risk free than in my book, you ain't living.

Edited July 14, 2009 by PaulUSA302

[Chaimai]

Then I talk to my friends who live there and they tell me about trusted friends stealing from them. Old friends calling out of the blue begging for money. Police who use to ignore them now give them the hairy eyeball and taking the time to search them for no real reason. Then I read the news about visitors being attacked, drugged, hung, shot, set-up in traps.

Simple answer - change your friends.

[PaulUSA302]

b] I could never throw away my friends simply for being good friends.

[/b]

[jellymeister]

I was in Pattaya last month and it was absolutely dead, literally everywhere i went i was getting hassled like never before in LOS off street vendors, massage girls, suit sellers, bar girls, motorbike taxi guys etc etc..... They were a lot ruder then when the place is full and it did get to be a bit of a pain in the ass ...... Still id much rather be in LOS then anywhere else.

I like to travel out and away from the tourist spots and I am often alone since I like to walk and walk and walk and walk. I have walked myself into some bad situations.... I met a pack of dogs that still send a shiver down my spine when I think of them. Faced down guys with pipes in their hands who mistook me for someone else and offered a chance to be in a porn movei... Well... Maybe the offer of being in a porno was not so bad

So while things are lean I think it would be better for me to vist when things get a little better and folks are there spending their money and I won't be seen as such an eaxy target.

In a crowd of tourist, my chances of not being a victim are much better....

You might want to double-check which role they have in mind for you before jumping at the film star role

[lioness]

Paul

I doubt anyone really cares wether you come to Thailand or not, what was the point of your post.

[PaulUSA302]

You might want to double-check which role they have in mind for you before jumping at the film star role

The role was me with 2 women, one African woman and one Thai Woman. I posted about it on here years ago. You may want to go and read some of my older posts

[kimincm]

OP, you must know by now that ALL tourist destinations attract all manner of thieves, scammers, tricksters, prostitures and liars.

The worst characters I've found there were mostly my own compatriots, Thais are pussy cats in comparison.

Avoid the tourism and go see Thailand, there's a lot to see and if the folks in the sticks try to hit on you - well, at least it will cost you

less.

Oh, sure... But this is a Thailand forum to talk about all things Thai. So I posted my thoughts related to my coming holiday in Thailand.

I remembered my last visit and how often I was pestered. How my pocket was almost picked (Not the first attempt and I am sure it won't be their last). How some vendors were rude and nasty with me because I would not buy from them and on and on. I ask myself... Hmmmm... Now if things were that bad when the place was filled with tourist, how will it be now that the tourist numbers are low?

Then I talk to my friends who live there and they tell me about trusted friends stealing from them. Old friends calling out of the blue begging for money. Police who use to ignore them now give them the hairy eyeball and taking the time to search them for no real reason. Then I read the news about visitors being attacked, drugged, hung, shot, set-up in traps.

I ask myself again. I say Paul.. (I answer myself by saying "Yes Paul?") Now, given the hairy situations you found yourself in during your last visit, do you think it is wise to go there when the tourist numbers are so low and you are more likely to be on the radar for those who would do you dirty? And I say, "Maybe I should wait for the High Season, even if the High Season is not so high." There is safety in numbers after all.

I have been to Thailand before and I know the risks. If your there and you live risk free than in my book, you ain't living.

ARE YOU WACKED OUT,WHAT ARE YOU ON,DIDN'T YOU JUST BLOW SIX PAGES OF POSTS OUT YOUR A_SE.??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Sorry---8Pages.

Edited July 14, 2009 by kimincm

[PaulUSA302]

Paul

I doubt anyone really cares wether you come to Thailand or not, what was the point of your post.

The point was that I was moving my holiday back from October to December when there would be a greater number of visitors to Thailand to take some of the pressure off of me.

Also. I dn't want to be the only person sitting in a restaurant or a bar.... I will come when more people are visiting

[PaulUSA302]

ARE YOU WACKED OUT,WHAT ARE YOU ON,DIDN'T YOU JUST BLOW SIX PAGES OF POSTS OUT YOUR A_SE.??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Sorry---8Pages.

No. I am just a regular guy that enjoys fun and a good time and is willing to take reasonable chances for reasonable amounts of risk. Some Bungee Jump... I think that is too much risk invested for the enjoyment received.

Me. I know what I like and how much risk I am willing to invent for the potential enjoyment dividends I could receive.

Also, today is a new day and my opinions and thoughts are adjusted to match my feeling and thoughts at the moment that I tap, tap, tap my reply on the keyboard

[kimincm]

Paul

I doubt anyone really cares wether you come to Thailand or not, what was the point of your post.

The point was that I was moving my holiday back from October to December when there would be a greater number of visitors to Thailand to take some of the pressure off of me.

Also. I dn't want to be the only person sitting in a restaurant or a bar.... I will come when more people are visiting

That's what you said 196 posts ago,your not bored to hear it,WE ARE.

[Birdman]

You might want to double-check which role they have in mind for you before jumping at the film star role

The role was me with 2 women, one African woman and one Thai Woman. I posted about it on here years ago. You may want to go and read some of my older posts

Looks like suffering from some kind of inferiority complex. Where is Jungian?? Best way to handle that: Come here to Thailand, AND, simultaneous always be conscious, that it's a therapy and not real!

Jokes aside, Paul, it seems that there is a shortcoming inside your psyche, if you are not trolling, which could be the source of that Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hide condition.

So, better than posting loudly on a well known expat forum, come to SEA and make something very, very productive. Something like a massage course at Wat Pho or a Take Wando course or learn Thai until you master that at, e.g., AIA,

or, and that would be the best of all, mediation at a temple, e.g., Suan Mok.

[PaulUSA302]

Looks like suffering from some kind of inferiority complex. Where is Jungian?? Best way to handle that: Come here to Thailand, AND, simultaneous always be conscious, that it's a therapy and not real!

Jokes aside, Paul, it seems that there is a shortcoming inside your psyche, if you are not trolling, which could be the source of that Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hide condition.

So, better than posting loudly on a well known expat forum, come to SEA and make something very, very productive. Something like a massage course at Wat Pho or a Take Wando course or learn Thai until you master that at, e.g., AIA,

or, and that would be the best of all, mediation at a temple, e.g., Suan Mok.

I just come here to share my thoughts and opinions and to tell you of things I have experienced. If your upset because of my lifes experiences than who is having the problem? Me? I sure hope not..

[ballpoint]

Looks like suffering from some kind of inferiority complex. Where is Jungian?? Best way to handle that: Come here to Thailand, AND, simultaneous always be conscious, that it's a therapy and not real!

Jokes aside, Paul, it seems that there is a shortcoming inside your psyche, if you are not trolling, which could be the source of that Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hide condition.

So, better than posting loudly on a well known expat forum, come to SEA and make something very, very productive. Something like a massage course at Wat Pho or a Take Wando course or learn Thai until you master that at, e.g., AIA,

or, and that would be the best of all, mediation at a temple, e.g., Suan Mok.

You mean settling disputes between monks?

[PaulUSA302]

Looks like suffering from some kind of inferiority complex. Where is Jungian?? Best way to handle that: Come here to Thailand, AND, simultaneous always be conscious, that it's a therapy and not real!

Jokes aside, Paul, it seems that there is a shortcoming inside your psyche, if you are not trolling, which could be the source of that Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hide condition.

So, better than posting loudly on a well known expat forum, come to SEA and make something very, very productive. Something like a massage course at Wat Pho or a Take Wando course or learn Thai until you master that at, e.g., AIA,

or, and that would be the best of all, mediation at a temple, e.g., Suan Mok.

You mean settling disputes between monks?

LOL!! Now that was funny!

[sassienie]

Paul

You seem like a really lonely guy, screaming out to be noticed.

And suddenly you have found an audience on here.

I do hope you find yourself someday and find a life.

Very sad indeed, like the Beatles song: All The Lonely People, Where Do They All Come From?

I am feeling sad for your predicament and wish you every success for the future.

[PaulUSA302]

Paul

You seem like a really lonely guy, screaming out to be noticed.

And suddenly you have found an audience on here.

I do hope you find yourself someday and find a life.

Very sad indeed, like the Beatles song: All The Lonely People, Where Do They All Come From?

I am feeling sad for your predicament and wish you every success for the future.

When I am in Thailand, I may walk alone but I am never lonely. The thing that bothers me sometimes is that I tend to stand out and I try not to. But I guess it is a novelty for the Thai to see a black American when everyone else around them is Asian or White. Kinda the same for for my area. If a Thai person were to walk about, everyone would notice them because they would stick out... being that most everyone around here is either Black or White.

I would love to be able to go to Thailand and just be a part of the crowd and blend in with everyone else. But this has given me an Idea for another post.

Thanks!

[isanb]

Paul

You seem like a really lonely guy, screaming out to be noticed.

And suddenly you have found an audience on here.

I do hope you find yourself someday and find a life.

Very sad indeed, like the Beatles song: All The Lonely People, Where Do They All Come From?

I am feeling sad for your predicament and wish you every success for the future.

When I am in Thailand, I may walk alone but I am never lonely. The thing that bothers me sometimes is that I tend to stand out and I try not to. But I guess it is a novelty for the Thai to see a black American when everyone else around them is Asian or White. Kinda the same for for my area. If a Thai person were to walk about, everyone would notice them because they would stick out... being that most everyone around here is either Black or White.

I would love to be able to go to Thailand and just be a part of the crowd and blend in with everyone else. But this has given me an Idea for another post.

Thanks!

no please

[norwayeagle]

Paul

You seem like a really lonely guy, screaming out to be noticed.

And suddenly you have found an audience on here.

I do hope you find yourself someday and find a life.

Very sad indeed, like the Beatles song: All The Lonely People, Where Do They All Come From?

I am feeling sad for your predicament and wish you every success for the future.

Actually i think people should try to b more alone with them self.That is 1 of the best ways to learn , learning to trust urself.To b in peace with urself .few people have been "there".If ur in peace ur never alone.People i know who taken that step hardly make any problems 4 any1,and they are a Good company!..Every1 need, and should do the "loneliness"Once, or better, several times during their lifetime.So many people are still Alone even with friends.Wonder why!But whatever "some people will never learn about the truth in life,it's like talking to the wall. ...

[smokie36]

Paul

While I have come to appreciate your honesty and integrity in your posts and they are clearly heartfelt

Well....Its just so.....like chewing cardboard

Please be more specific

[smokie36]

Paul

You seem like a really lonely guy, screaming out to be noticed.

And suddenly you have found an audience on here.

I do hope you find yourself someday and find a life.

Very sad indeed, like the Beatles song: All The Lonely People, Where Do They All Come From?

I am feeling sad for your predicament and wish you every success for the future.

When I am in Thailand, I may walk alone but I am never lonely. The thing that bothers me sometimes is that I tend to stand out and I try not to. But I guess it is a novelty for the Thai to see a black American when everyone else around them is Asian or White. Kinda the same for for my area. If a Thai person were to walk about, everyone would notice them because they would stick out... being that most everyone around here is either Black or White.

I would love to be able to go to Thailand and just be a part of the crowd and blend in with everyone else. But this has given me an Idea for another post.

Thanks!

Can agree with this post

Travelled with a mate all over Thailand 2 years ago and he felt uncomfortable with the attention he recieved due to his colour

Sadly he has no intention of returning to Thailand as a result

Not outright duscrimination but he just felt noticed everywhere....

Edited July 14, 2009 by smokie36

[Birdman]

..................

Travelled with a mate all over Thailand 2 years ago and he felt uncomfortable with the attention he recieved due to his colour

Sadly he has no intention of returning to Thailand as a result

Not outright duscrimination but he just felt noticed everywhere....

Unnecessary lack of self-confidence.

Having been far away from the average tourist tracks in Asia many times and being a tall, blond, blue eyed Westerner, I certainly was noticed everywhere. One can make the best out of that, by showing that you are a sincere, courteous foreigner, who is not only interested in the local customs and culture, but also respect it...