webfact Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 HM's celebrations to be extended to Dec 13 if no rally held on Thursday Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij said the celebrations for His Majesty the King's birthday will be extended until Sunday if the red-shirt people cancel their rally on Thursday. But although the red-shirt people go ahead with the rally, the celebrations at Sanam Luang and Rajdamnone Avenue will be extended from Monday to Wednesday, Korn said. -- The Nation 2009/12/4 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I like it! Don't think anybody would want to be responsible for screwing up a national holiday. Great move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minxwhale Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 What's Finance got to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonthaburial Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I like it! Don't think anybody would want to be responsible for screwing up a national holiday. Great move. Cannot see anything in that announcement that the national holidays will be extended ONLY the celebrations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opalhort Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I like it! Don't think anybody would want to be responsible for screwing up a national holiday. Great move. I second that. Now the ball is in the red-shirt's park. Great move by the gov.! opalhort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkieboy Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 A rather desperate political move to avert the rally. Even my yellow shirt supporting g/f is raising her eyebrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathanpattaya Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Excellent idea. Surely the Red Shirts wouldn't have the brass neck to spoil this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changian Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Remember when you were at school and they'd be one kid who'd always be taking. The teacher would say something like "Children, if the whole class behaves then you can all go to break five minutes early. If anyone speaks then it's detention for all of you." Thus putting the onus on other members of the class to tell the annoying child to shut it and get in line. The Dems are showing it is possible to run a country the same way as you treat a class of 8 year olds. Next step will be a ban on staying up after 8pm and not allowing anyone out to play with their friends if they are caught protesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baahjun Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Let's extend the holidays for 4 more years,.......et voila....political stability ! What complete BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitrapaap Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Let's extend the holidays for 4 more years,.......et voila....political stability !What complete BS Let's see if it works, before deciding whether it is BS or not. The fact that it might not work in western societies does not necessarily mean it won't work here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitrapaap Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 What's Finance got to do with it? Maybe it is that celebrations are not free of charge and somebody has to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Remember when you were at school and they'd be one kid who'd always be taking. The teacher would say something like "Children, if the whole class behaves then you can all go to break five minutes early. If anyone speaks then it's detention for all of you." Thus putting the onus on other members of the class to tell the annoying child to shut it and get in line.The Dems are showing it is possible to run a country the same way as you treat a class of 8 year olds. Next step will be a ban on staying up after 8pm and not allowing anyone out to play with their friends if they are caught protesting. Absolutely right. Do the Democrats regard this as an example as good government ? - its nothing short of emotional blackmail. What will they do next - cancel Songkran if the Red Shirts hold a rally in April? Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) Seems the Red shirts are desperate and Taksin is doing a last minute grab for his money. He even tried to bargain last week claiming he would call off the demonstrations if he was pardoned - this idiot exiled criminal actually said he was not inciting to riot yet openly claimed he was behind it all - usual stuff for a liar, cannot remember what he has already lied about. He has no interest other than his wealth and if Thai's believe he has their interests at heart - it is very sad indeed. Red shirt rallies of any description right now would bring this country to its knees - again. Despite the politics behind the decision to extend, it is a move to decrease possibility of problems so I for one, endorse it even if my thoughts are not behind this Govt and its obvious weaknesses. They are a far better option than led by the corrupt opposition. Edited December 7, 2009 by Lite Beer Profanities edited. Lite Beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) Thailand...It never ceases to Amaze. May the Red shirts show up in droves, and continue to protest this un-elected government.JMHO Now, the Mr T government was indeed ousted. After that there were elections. No party had a majority, or 51% of the seats in Parliament The Government was formed out of a coalition of parties, including Mr T's proxies. Then some parties left this coalition for various reasons. A new Government comprising different parties was formed, excluding Mr T's proxies. So......alll very legal. And formed in the same way as the former government. Try to remember that in nearly all countries a Government is not elected but formed out of a majority in the parliament. So if you think this Government is un-elected, so was the former. Edited December 7, 2009 by hansnl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 This move stinks of cynicism, desperation and puerility. An unelected government hiding behind... I won't go on. Thank you for not going on. On the point of an unelected government, this governement has been duly elected and is completely legitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewsta Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 A rather desperate political move to avert the rally. Even my yellow shirt supporting g/f is raising her eyebrows Not in agreement for the simple surmise that KhunT Wass-is-name in Nambobia will 'see red', but be forced to swallow 'Royal' and then to influence/pronounce/whatever a cancellation or delay in the Rally - IMHO, of course. We'll see after the Break, folks..... rgdz from Brewsta in CMai.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) This move stinks of cynicism, desperation and puerility. An unelected government hiding behind... I won't go on. Thank you for not going on. On the point of an unelected government, this governement has been duly elected and is completely legitimate. WRONG ! This government was NOT elected - the Democrats LOST the last election - check your facts. This government has NO mandate from the people to govern. It is, however, legitimate due to the changes made in the constitution after the Democrats lost the last election. Edited December 7, 2009 by slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 And there was PTP thinking they would hold a little rally and embarrass the government with the brilliantly coreographed Thai "spy" release to coincide with it too (Chavalit said Dec 9 or 10). I guess this according to some on here childish proposal will interfere with PTPs childish game. The government are not as useless at PR and tactical manouvers at a Thai poltical level as they used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 This move stinks of cynicism, desperation and puerility. An unelected government hiding behind... I won't go on. Thank you for not going on. On the point of an unelected government, this governement has been duly elected and is completely legitimate. WRONG ! This government was NOT elected - the Democrats LOST the last election - check your facts. It is, however, legitimate due to the changes made in the constitution after the Democrats lost the last election. This thread isnt about the constitution or who is in government or the legitimacy of that and we have god knows how many threads hijacked by those inane poltics 101 arguements. And by the way the constitution has not been ammended since the last election - Fact Anyway can we stick to topic and not let the usual hijacks occur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglist Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Excellent move. Slowly but surely the money Mr. T stole is moving further away. Haud Trado Haud Verto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewsta Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 This move stinks of cynicism, desperation and puerility. An unelected government hiding behind... I won't go on. Thank you for not going on. On the point of an unelected government, this governement has been duly elected and is completely legitimate. WRONG ! This government was NOT elected - the Democrats LOST the last election - check your facts. It is, however, legitimate due to the changes made in the constitution after the Democrats lost the last election. This thread isnt about the constitution or who is in government or the legitimacy of that and we have god knows how many threads hijacked by those inane poltics 101 arguements. And by the way the constitution has not been ammended since the last election - Fact Anyway can we stick to topic and not let the usual hijacks occur? s'not a bad idea, eh. Any word from Nambobia Fugitive No.1 in the pipeline, I ponder? Breathless in the Saddle, Brewsta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyok Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I like it! Don't think anybody would want to be responsible for screwing up a national holiday. Great move. I second that. Now the ball is in the red-shirt's park. Great move by the gov.! opalhort the deceitful swine will do anything, use "anybody" to discredit the redshirts. How low can they get ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Update: Natthawut vows to go ahead with Constitution Day rally BANGKOK: -- Natthawut Saikua, a red-shirt leader, said the red-shirt people would go on holding a demonstration at the Democracy Monument on the Constitution Day on Thursday. He claimed that the rally would also be a gathering of the red-shirt people to wish His Majesty the King the best on the occasion of his birthday. He was responding to calls from the government and other sides for the red-shirt people to cancel the rally when the people were taking part in the celebrations of His Majesty's birthday. -- The Nation 2009-12-07 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayF Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I admittedly only know the basic situation in Thai politics so I'm in no position to comment on individuals or parties, but this just seems like an attempt to delay the inevitable to me. From what I understand, both sides have respect for His Majesty so neither would interrupt his birthday celebrations for fear of backlash from the government, and the Royal Family and their supporters... ...but what's to stop the Red Shirts postponing until next week? Surely the government realise this, which makes me think maybe there's another PR or political reason for the extension. Could it be an attempt to disgrace the Red Shirts in the eyes of Thailand, as the government believe they will rally anyway? To me it looks like there something going on behind the scenes, but like I said, I'm no expert on Thai politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyok Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 This move stinks of cynicism, desperation and puerility. An unelected government hiding behind... I won't go on. EXACTLY...............as i have already said 'how low can they get' and this shows how desperate they are to stay in power, even though the majority did not vote them there ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xminator Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 So why not just extend it to all year! This is in my opinion disrespect toward the highest intitutions. And for the record, Long live the King! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I admittedly only know the basic situation in Thai politics so I'm in no position to comment on individuals or parties, but this just seems like an attempt to delay the inevitable to me. From what I understand, both sides have respect for His Majesty so neither would interrupt his birthday celebrations for fear of backlash from the government, and the Royal Family and their supporters......but what's to stop the Red Shirts postponing until next week? Surely the government realise this, which makes me think maybe there's another PR or political reason for the extension. Could it be an attempt to disgrace the Red Shirts in the eyes of Thailand, as the government believe they will rally anyway? To me it looks like there something going on behind the scenes, but like I said, I'm no expert on Thai politics. The Thaksin side have timed it so that they can have their rally and at the same time, according to statements by Chavalit, also bring back the Thai "spy" and cause as much embarrassment to the government as possible. Now the government doesnt sit back and just take it but responds giving the Thaksin side a dilemma. The best out may be once again for Thaksin to call for the cancellation of the rally. To be seen as putting a few issues which oculd be left a week or two in front of celebrations for HM will be poltically risky to say the least. That however, hits the Thaksin sides nicely timed Thai "spy" rally combo (two for the price of one) homerun Interesting how they seem to have replaced the tainted mysogynist Jatuporn with Nattawut as numero uno spokesperson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 This move stinks of cynicism, desperation and puerility. An unelected government hiding behind... I won't go on. Thank you for not going on. On the point of an unelected government, this governement has been duly elected and is completely legitimate. WRONG ! This government was NOT elected - the Democrats LOST the last election - check your facts. This government has NO mandate from the people to govern. It is, however, legitimate due to the changes made in the constitution after the Democrats lost the last election. I think the point Mario was making is that under the practice of parliamentary government Abhisit's administration is completely legitimate.He is quite right. However crucially there are some very disturbing aspects of the current administration's path to power which have been debated intensely on this forum.What is furthermore indisputable is that the government within a reasonable space of time needs a mandate from the Thai people in free and fair elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovyc Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I like it! Don't think anybody would want to be responsible for screwing up a national holiday. Great move. wait a minute... any special holidays have been announced?? As I understand, thursday is a holiday, rally or no rally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob6023 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Wow! another week of drinking and driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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