Re-entry Permit For Mutiple Entry Retirement Visa?

[andyanderson85]

Hi,

I have a Multiple Entry Retirement Visa, which I got in Canada. Do I still need to get a re-entry permit to return to Thailand?

[gotlost]

I take it you are in Thailand. First there is no retirement visa, only extension to stay based on retirement. Second yes if you leave Thailand during your stay on the extension you need a re-entry permit or you will lose the extension and have start over.

[lopburi3]

There is a retirement visa and it is called "long stay" and allows a one year entry.

If your multi entry non immigrant OA visa is still valid for entry (less than one year from issue) when you return you do not need or want a re-entry permit - just return for a new one year stay from that date. For any returns after the visa itself expires you will need a re-entry permit to keep your most current stay alive.

If you just have a multi entry non immigrant O visa the same applies as above but each entry would only be for 90 days.

[Gallier]

somebody out there who can second the statement of lopburi 13 ?

[Crossy]

somebody out there who can second the statement of lopburi 13 ?

Me.

If the visa is still valid (before the 'enter before' date) then he will receive a new 1 year stamp if it's a multi-entry OA visa, means you can actually get nearly 2 years out of a 1 year visa.

WARNING. Once the 'enter before' date has passed you need to get a re-entry permit to keep your permit to stay alive.

[Gallier]

@Crossy

Dont get me wrong, I really do appreciate your reply but where could I possibly get an ' official' statement I could refer to in the case the immigration officer is requesting the re-entry permit ?

Thanks for your help

[TerryLH]

OP

Did you read the pinned info at the top of the forum? That would be a good place to start.

You just dissed two of the most credible posters on visa regs that are on this forum. Nice start.

[Mario2008]

The official goverment information can be somewhat confusing.

This will give you some peace of mind.

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/conte...axpiredate.html

The visa expiration date is shown on the visa. Depending on the alien’s nationality, visas can be issued for any number of entries, from as little as one entry to as many as multiple (unlimited) entries, for the same purpose of travel.

•This generally means the visa is valid, or can be used from the date it is issued until the date it expires, for travel for the same purpose, when the visa is issued for multiple entry.

•This time period from the visa issuance date to visa expiration date as shown on the visa, is called visa validity. If you travel frequently as a tourist for example, with a multiple entry visa, you do not have to apply for a new visa each time you want to travel to Thailand.•The visa validity is the length of time you are permitted to travel to a port-of-entry in Thailand to request permission of the immigration officer to permit you to enter Thailand. The visa does not guarantee entry to Thailand.

•The Expiration Date for the visa should not be confused with the authorized length of your stay in Thailand, given to you by the immigration officer at port-of-entry. The visa expiration date has nothing to do with the authorized length of your stay in Thailand for any given visit.

•Each time you arrive at the port-of-entry, an immigration officer decides whether to allow you to enter and how long you can stay. Only the immigration officer has the authority to permit you to enter Thailand.

[Gallier]

@TerryLH

I am not quite sure whether you know the meaning of ' to diss' but as I said at the beginning I do not want anybody to get me wrong meaning that there is no disrespect from my side. If you ever had a discussion with officials in this country you would know the only way to make a point is the possibility to refer to 'official statements,rules or regulations' and even then it is up to the discretion of the officer how he decides.

As Mario2008 also writes in his response

" ..•Each time you arrive at the port-of-entry, an immigration officer decides whether to allow you to enter and how long you can stay. Only the immigration officer has the authority to permit you to enter Thailand. "

So I guess with a stamp in my passport authorizing me to stay for a year(DEC 2010) even with a multiple entry OA visa valid until November I will be on the safe side to go for the re-entry permit rather than to be taken by surprise when coming back getting a stamp with 60 days only.

Maybe I look at this visa issue completely from the wrong side but leaving the country in two weeks, coming back 4 weeks later and not knowing/understanding the exact legal situation just make me crazy.

Any further advice, comment/report of experience is really welcome.

cheers

[Mario2008]

You don't need the re-entry permit as long as the visa is valid when you enter (again). If immigration denies you entry, they will do so reagrdless if you have a re-entry permit or not. That will not be the issue, rather if you have enough money, are deemed a danger to society etc.

[lopburi3]

We are posting here because we have had dealing with officialdom in Thailand and most of us have been doing so for many years. In my case over 40.

If you have a one year multi entry non immigrant OA visa and enter the day before it expires (the date on the visa itself) you will be stamped in for one year from that date of entry. Any travel with a return after that visa expiration date will require a re-entry permit to return for the same permitted to stay date. This is the current policy.

If you are not so stamped you ask for a more senior official. If that does not work you accept what the provide and visit Bangkok Immigration to get the correct stamp.

The OA visa is a special case and crosses the line between MFA and Immigration so official information is not that available on any web site. I would say what you read on this forum is the most accurate and up to date information available. In the next hour they could change things - but if they do it is very likely to be reported here first.

[Gallier]

Thanks again for all your responses and advices. I will report in about 4 weeks how things worked out.

Last question related to my subject, on the 28th of March I will be 3 month in BKK and I am leaving on April 1st, I am wondering whether I will have to do the 3month reporting to the immigration. Any suggestions?

cheers

[Mario2008]

after 90 days you have to report., not 3 months So do it. Can be done by mail if you want to.

[sim]

There is a retirement visa and it is called "long stay" and allows a one year entry.

If your multi entry non immigrant OA visa is still valid for entry (less than one year from issue) when you return you do not need or want a re-entry permit - just return for a new one year stay from that date. For any returns after the visa itself expires you will need a re-entry permit to keep your most current stay alive.

If you just have a multi entry non immigrant O visa the same applies as above but each entry would only be for 90 days.

Hi, same quiry here, so can I have another retirement OA multiple visa again here in thailand or back from my own country once the present one is used-up/expired after a period of two years actually.

Many thanks.

[lopburi3]

The normal procedure is to obtain a new one year extension of stay inside Thailand. It is not and OA visa and does not allow travel without a re-entry permit being obtained. The requirement is 800k in a bank account in Thailand for 3 months prior to application or 65k monthly income in Embassy letter of a combination of the account/income to meet 800k per year.

Your home country may not want to issue a non immigrant OA visa again if you have not been living there for a current police check - it would be up to them. Some have done in the past.