Thai Army Tells Red Shirts To Disperse From Rally Base

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1 dead

Sad indeed

Bombing a train is terrorism.

Yes it is. And the red leaders had threatened to do this before. They are going for broke. Of course it was the reds who did the bombing. Can there be any question?

Amazing that some people can write, but they can't read. Nobody bombed a train.

Not the actual train, but the BTS Skytrain Station... oops slight semantic difference.

Except when we go to take the train we do go to the station....

[elcent]

tulsathit: Update on arrest: Several news outlets (not sure if getting it from same sources) say 4 or 5 "retired" soldiers have been nabbed.

Thu Apr 22 2010 22:31:18 GMT+0700 (SE Asia Standard Time)

tulsathit: Urgent , correction: Our own reporter has called the hospital and was told the dead victim was female .

Thu Apr 22 2010 22:28:07 GMT+0700 (SE Asia Standard Time)

[whiterussian]

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Edited April 22, 2010 by whiterussian

[chadintheusa]

There is no evidence that it was Red Shirts. Certainly, the government benefits in terms of PR from this happening.

Just last week, people were saying that the Red Shirts deliberately killed their own supporters in order to stir up hatred towards the Thai government.

Maybe it was a disgruntled skytrain conductor. Or maybe it was the Easter bunny. I know you want to start a conspiracy theory here but sometimes the ones who did it actually did it. Stop being deliberately stupid. The reds are responsible.

[Jingthing]

The reds probably lack the technical expertise to actually derail a train as the red leader threatened. This has the same effect on the populace.

[traderjm]

Its starting to get scary I hope the army shows restraint. The reds have a legitimate cause this govt came to power unelected, Iis Thailand a Democracy or dictatorship?

Hey Banff, are you new here or just ignorant of the facts. Learn what you are talking about at least before making your comments public. Do not trust everything your Isaan gf tells you. I hope you are not from Canada as you make us all look stupid with your comments.

Don't waste your energy just another troll... don't feed it and it will slink away or better yet put it on ignore and enjoy the peace and quiet

[cheguevara]

Maybe it was a disgruntled skytrain conductor. Or maybe it was the Easter bunny. I know you want to start a conspiracy theory here but sometimes the ones who did it actually did it. Stop being deliberately stupid. The reds are responsible.

Where is your proof? Show us the proof please. Otherwise stop spreading lies.

[hammered]

4-5 retired soldiers arrested it seems.

Red shirts cheered the news of pink injuries it is reported. This is getting very nasty and lots of people are being used and manipulkated.

In the final analysis it wont matter what red or yellow supporters think but what thos ein the middle believe

Edited April 22, 2010 by hammered

[madi]

Its starting to get scary I hope the army shows restraint. The reds have a legitimate cause this govt came to power unelected, Iis Thailand a Democracy or dictatorship?

Hey Banff, are you new here or just ignorant of the facts. Learn what you are talking about at least before making your comments public. Do not trust everything your Isaan gf tells you. I hope you are not from Canada as you make us all look stupid with your comments.

The answer is it is a dictatorship.

Good post my friend from Canada.

Anyone here who thinks a nation that only allows puppet governments ruled by the elite is a democracy is mistaken.

Over 22 coups by the regime.

Students in the 70s wanted real democracy, they were shot down like dogs.

Go look at the pictures on the net all.

Again it happened and again and again.

The 1990s had the regime again shooting Thai students.

Tell me Westerners.

Would you crawl on your knees to talk to another man?

NO?

So why it is you think it is OK for Thai people to have to do it?

Are you racists or just ignorant?

[brahmburgers]

1 dead

Sad indeed

Bombing a train is terrorism.

Yes it is. And the red leader Jatuporn had threatened to do this before. They are going for broke. Of course it was the reds who did the bombing. Can there be any question?

Grandpops and Che are among the few desperate voices who predictably and nonsensically deny the Reds could/would do anything as gauche as toss bombs. Well, you guys have typecast yourselves as indelibly allied to the Red mob - and therefore you're compelled to echo whatever the Red leaders shout over their PA systems. If the Red leaders tell their minions; "Any bad thing that looks like it's done by a Red shirt is really a Yellow shirt dressed as a Red shirt" (essentially what they said last month) .....then Red apologists are compelled to ape that line. If bombs get propelled and bullets shot from the Red side and the Red leaders say it can never have happened, then Red apologists will have to believe that ridiculous concept also.

To borrow a line from an old Niel Young song; "It's so hard to make love pay, when you're on the losing end....." (substitute the phrase 'mob rule' for 'love' and you get the picture)

.....Some guys are on the losing end. ....Now if the security forces would find their backbones and get to doing their jobs .....Bangkokians and Thais can get back on track.

[Skywalker69]

So where is thaksin - the savoor, the champion of democracy, the champion of no double standards, the pusher for a pardon for himself even though he's committed henous crimes against humanity massive corruption and disgracefully manipulated the people who are now his 'warriors'?

Where is he?

No phone ins - no video link motivational speeches.

Where is he?

Wonder what rubbish the red leaders have told their followers about why thaksin isn't being seen or heard.

I think he is playing golf somwere.

[Ricardo]

There is no evidence that it was Red Shirts. Certainly, the government benefits in terms of PR from this happening.

Just last week, people were saying that the Red Shirts deliberately killed their own supporters in order to stir up hatred towards the Thai government.

Also last week, weren't there calls from the Red-Shirt stage, to attack the BTS to prevent its being used to move troops around town, and they had to shut the system down, to protect it from the 'peaceful protesters' ?

Of course this isn't absolute proof, but the threat was made, and Seh-Daeng says the 'ronin' were/are active, just how much proof do you require, before climbing off the fence ?

Its starting to get scary I hope the army shows restraint. The reds have a legitimate cause this govt came to power unelected, Iis Thailand a Democracy or dictatorship?

The army have shown commendable restraint, over the past several weeks, indeed PM-Abhisit is regularly criticised for showing too much restraint, and April 10th showed them paying a heavy price for this restraint.

But this cannot last forever. It's past time for the red-shirt leaders to return to the negotiating-table, with more than just a blank refusal, to change their position.

[commons]

And this was before this latest stuff. Meltdown

Over the past week, however, Thailand's gentle smile has become a grimace, and its welcome mat is stained with blood. On Saturday April 10, violence erupted between soldiers and anti-government protesters in Bangkok, leaving 24 dead and over 800 injured. No one is sure when and how the current political crisis will end. But the effect on tourism is expected to be devastating. Finance minister Korn Chatikavanij predicted that tourist arrivals will be "decimated," and warned that the country could lose two percentage points off its projected 5% GDP growth for the year if order is not rapidly restored. The cost of the political turmoil has yet to be tallied, but more than 70 charter flights hauling tourists from China have been canceled. Federation of Thai Tourism Association President Charoen Wanganon told the Bangkok Post that hotel occupancy in Bangkok had dropped by at least 30% for this time of year.

For hotels near the protest sites, however, the occupancy rate is zero. "This hotel is closed," said a black clad security guard from behind a red metal barrier in front of Bangkok's posh Greek-columned Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel. "No one can check in. Only check out." Nearby, at the luxurious Four Seasons, Buddhist monks who joined the protest have strung up clothes lines across the manicured entrance garden and are drying their freshly laundered saffron robes. Both hotels are situated near an intersection occupied by tens of thousands of anti-government protesters known as the Red Shirts for the color they wear. The intersection, called Rajaprasong, is the capital's main commercial junction, home to six major shopping malls, several five-star hotels, office buildings housing many of Thailand's top local and international firms, and other businesses, most of which have completely shut down.

Time

i replied to your posts twice already. there never was any reply.

i like people intent on self-destruction.

you're welcome. let's go...

[elcent]

4-5 retired soldiers arrested it seems.

it looks like a double standard thingy.

Strange that today the prosecutors delayed legal action against PAD again until June 16

Court injunction, which is useless during martial law then.

Five former soldiers arrested in connection of the sky-train bombing.

Some are desperately looking for civil war, why and who would that be?

[DP25]

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'Rival' side? Those are both red shirt

[draggons]

So the government fired on the station? get a grip.

Conspiracy theorists crawling out of the woodwork for the last few weeks ( on both sides )

The disruption this is causing the country needs to be stopped now.

who can, honestly, say they could see this being aloud to happen in any western country. None I think. Troops would have been deployed and used!

Differance between well trained troops (western) is that they "will and can" clear a crowd when ordered to!

Enough is enough for fcuks sake.

[DP25]

Red shirts cheered the news of pink injuries it is reported.

This is the saddest thing of all

[erectem]

I have to walk through these red animals every day, currently they have piles of car tyres, soaked in petrol (i saw this with my own eyes), reinforced with sharpened bamboo sticks, piles of bamboo spears stacked near by. The red guards are now carrying pistols (cant confirm if its all of them or just a few - but i saw at least 2 guards armed with firearms) i tried to take a photo but they chased me off.

Still convinced the reds are the good guys?

From my own personal vantage point having spent the last 3 weeks going through their camp twice a day every day i can say, hand on my heart, these guys are pure and simply thugs. The military need to act and soon, yes people will get hurt, and yes people will die, but these reds have been warned multiple times already, if its red blood in the streets they have nobody to blame but themselves. Simple as that.

Apocalypse Now?

Reminded me of that famous line.

"I love the smell of naplam in the morning!"

Gas soaked tires... jeeze Louise,

I hope the wind is not too high or variable when they light this off.

hel_l of a smell too.

But that will be nothing compared to the

multi-directional fumes and carcinogens put out.

[animatic]

4-5 retired soldiers arrested it seems.

Red shirts cheered the news of pink injuries it is reported. This is getting very nasty and lots of people are being used and manipulkated.

In the final analysis it wont matter what red or yellow supporters think but what thos ein the middle believe

Now THAT is interesting...

The smoking gun maybe?

Certainly they WERE looking for the shadow warriors should they act again.

[hammered]

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'Rival' side? Those are both red shirt

Isnt photojoun lefevre, he of shoplifting fame, who was a bit of an embarrassment on here not so long ago

[hammered]

4-5 retired soldiers arrested it seems.

Red shirts cheered the news of pink injuries it is reported. This is getting very nasty and lots of people are being used and manipulkated.

In the final analysis it wont matter what red or yellow supporters think but what thos ein the middle believe

Now THAT is interesting...

The smoking gun maybe?

Certainly they WERE looking for the shadow warriors should they act again.

As far as things go there is one former extremely senior general plus plus right trying to get himself out of a mess he got himself into according to rumours

[TheItaliann]

lol at the Thai police miraculously apprehending 4 or 5 (they haven't decided yet) already. whether it was actual red shirts or a third hand or the Easter Bunny, that they did not have an escape route and that the Thai police managed to catch them is just comical. They probably picked 5 randoms out of the street.

[kentucky]

Pity they did'nt crackdown on the yellows previously, if they had of, maybe the reds would'nt have copied them. The two airports and government house were occupied without any resitance from the army or police. Double standards.

Pity they didn't crackdown on the reds previous to the yellows. If they had, maybe subsequent difficulties might have been avoided. Triple standards.

"We are open to talks to end the crisis, but not with the government," one of the "red shirt" leaders, Jaran Ditapichai, told Reuters in an interview.

Who is he? Never heard of him before

Further googling will reveal that Jaran Ditapichai was expelled as a member of the National Human Rights Commission for his role in the violent July 22, 2007 riot in front of Prem's house that resulted in hundreds of injuries.

He became a criminal litigant for those actions along with other red shirt leaders (and which, AFAIK, these charges after nearly 3 years are still not resolved).

For his riot co-leader status, he was impeached by a vote of 156 to 1, with 3 abstaining.

Human Rights Commission member and Riot Leader. Nice mix.

For TheOldWolf, there's not a lot of photos of Jaran out there compared to the other leaders, but here he is on the far right along with his fellow red shirt leaders (back when they were white shirts) - Weng, Jakrapob, Nuttawut, and Jaran.

*click on the photo to enlarge*

July 23, 2007

Amazingly, they were speaking at a press briefing to condemn the police suppression of the group’s riot in front of Prem's house. A riot in which 200 policemen were injured by the red shirts/white shirts, which were being led by... a member of the Human Rights Commission.

[commons]

tulsathit: Translating someone: Saddest thing may be the cheers of joy at red rally site over news of Silom attacks.

Sarosha Pornudomsak AmmSarosh RT @tulsathit: RT @veen_NT: Blood donation needed at Siriraj, Chulalongkoran, Lerd Sin, St Louis, Bkk Christain and BNH. pls RT

newley: Sounds of broken glass and projectiles bouncing around. Protesters hurling objects back and forth.

# Journotopia

A group of 20 protesters march towards reds shouting, "Get out!" The metal walkways ring with projectiles. More bangs. Round 2? 2 minutes ago via mobile web

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PBS: Silom locals gathering in the area in front of Dusit Thani Hotel; heading for confrontation with red shirts 6 minutes ago via Digsby

[whiterussian]

http://twitter.com/photo_journ

'Rival' side? Those are both red shirt

OK i should have said other sides of the fort!

I think photo_journ is a farang isn't he, regardless.. he tweets well!

Can you link me to a decent Thai red insider tweeting in english? as to what the reds are saying on stage? No idea who that http://twitter.com/DaengPridi guy is but he speaka da english very good!

Edited April 22, 2010 by whiterussian

[whiterussian]

double post

Edited April 22, 2010 by whiterussian

[hammered]

lol at the Thai police miraculously apprehending 4 or 5 (they haven't decided yet) already. whether it was actual red shirts or a third hand or the Easter Bunny, that they did not have an escape route and that the Thai police managed to catch them is just comical. They probably picked 5 randoms out of the street.

Except it wasnt the police who caught them but the military. Could be a few phones ringing tonight or sudden departures form the country

Sounds like a photo of a black shirt being arrested

Edited April 22, 2010 by hammered

[djayz]

"The police and the army work for the government." In theory yes, but TIT...

[commons]

to mods:

shut down this thread. 1 person died. 75+ injured.

& ppl still feel incited to spill opinion.

shut down this thread.

[TheItaliann]

lol at the Thai police miraculously apprehending 4 or 5 (they haven't decided yet) already. whether it was actual red shirts or a third hand or the Easter Bunny, that they did not have an escape route and that the Thai police managed to catch them is just comical. They probably picked 5 randoms out of the street.

Except it wasnt the police who caught them but the military. Could be a few phones ringing tonight or sudden departures form the country

Sounds like a photo of a black shirt being arrested

Ok. I thought it was the incompetent Thai police, but it was actually the very competent Thai Army who managed to get into Lumpini Park, through the mess of Red Shirts and arrest their suspects. They are probably beating the confession out of them as we speak.

Face it, the guilty are never held responsible in Thailand.

Edited April 22, 2010 by TheItaliann