Red-Shirts Leader Seh Daeng Shot In The Head - Fighting For His Life In ICU - Video

[jdinasia]

Entered the temple exited the neck. Obviously shot from a quite high vantage point.

Long barrel, high power rifle, high velocity round, serious scope, with smoke sources as windage indicators

and SD doing a interview in a static place, wouldn't be that hard for a serious shooter.

Not commenting on what a snipper could or couldn't do... I wouldn't have a clue...

But I find it hard to believe that IF it was a someone inside the red-shirt compound, close up, that no one would have seen the shooter, that the shooter wouldn't have been captured... IMHO since I haven't seen reports of the shooter being captured it was done from some distance from the crowd...

Doesn't answer who pulled the trigger, just that they weren't close by...

Daewoo

No, no! According to JD it was a side-to-side head shot from someone nearby. And we all know what an expert on Thailand JD is, so he must be right.

Side to side head-shot ... it wasn't a mistake but witnesses place the shooter INSIDE red controlled area.

Thanks ! I appreciate that you acknowledge my study of the topics in question

What are current reports saying?

BTW --- feel free to look and see where I got my information at the time of that post

[whybother]

Sensible proposal

1. Stop all protests immediately and disperse

2. Red leaders surrender to police to answer charges

3. Lift SOE and troops return to barracks

4. reconciliation

5. work towards fresh elections

Too complicated for the reds to understand.

[monkfish]

Interesting Eyewitness account

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong/2010/05/14/entry-1

May 14, 2010

A bullet that went through Seh Daeng's right temple before passing through his throad and the back of his neck appears to be shot from a Winchester .308 rifle.

A military expert has told me that the angle of the travelling bullet that struck Seh Daeng down was somewhere between 45 to 75 degree. This can only mean that a sniper must have stalked up Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdiphol or Seh Daeng at one of the buildings nearby.

Seh Daeng was shot at around 7:00 PM yesterday while he was giving an interview to foreign journalists, including Thomas Fuller of the New York Times. He is now in critical conditions and placed under intensive care unit at Vajira Hospital. Chances of his survival are very slim.

A person by the name of El Shaheen posted an interesting comment in Thomas Fuller's report, Thai General Shot; Army Moves to Face Protesters, in the New York Times as follows:

"I was at Sala Deang area near the MRT station. A group of us reported about noise coming from the the Dusit Hotel. What looked like a long stick extended from the roof top. Within minutes, the general was speaking to his supporters, offering water to an elderly lady and giving her a hug. Moments later, a shot was heard from overhead. The object had been pulled back and a man with a black hood stood up and walked away. About 5 min. later. A man wearing the same outfit was escorted out of the hotel into a black police van. Quickly, it took off and proceeded to go up Rama 4 and turned left to go towards MBK.

Military officers where seen smiling and shaking each others hands from this killing of this man.

Our party was told by an army officer. You have seen nothing, go back to your hotel at once or you will be arrested and deported. He repeated again and again. You've seen nothing, nothing to see here. Go back to your hotels.

Staff at the Dusit hotel were seen outside, talking to a few of the officers.

[TonyH]

Thaksin's proposal 1) stop military-police operation 2) lift SOE 3) open talks w/ redshirts 4) reconciliation w/ all parties involved

NNA

proposal 5

remove Seh Daengs life support so that he cannot spill the beans about my revolutionary attempts to take over Thailand

THE NATION: Look like Thaksin is in action again. He has just proposed four ways to end the crisis. #NNA

THE NATION: Thaksin's proposal 1) stp military-police operation 2) lift SOE 3) open talks w/ redshirts 4) reconciliation w/ all parties involved #NNA

Taksin why don't you just shut the fuc_k up.

"Its bad enough already without him suturing things up all the time. Do we have to receive these silly quips from this criminal with verbal diarrhea"

Why does the media bother to publish these silly quotes".

Edited May 14, 2010 by TonyH

[waza]

I find it interesting that the reporter heard the shot around the same time as it hit.

[chadintheusa]

Sensible proposal

1. Stop all protests immediately and disperse

2. Red leaders surrender to police to answer charges

3. Lift SOE and troops return to barracks

4. reconciliation

5. work towards fresh elections

Too complicated for the reds to understand.

If it's too hard they can opt for the other option

1. Get shot

First option may be difficult to comprehend but better in the long run.

[chadintheusa]

I find it interesting that the reporter heard the shot around the same time as it hit.

as opposed to several minutes before or after?

Neither the reporter, nor the people posting here using third hand information are ballistics experts.

Edited May 14, 2010 by chadintheusa

[whybother]

Interesting Eyewitness account

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong/2010/05/14/entry-1

May 14, 2010

A bullet that went through Seh Daeng's right temple before passing through his throad and the back of his neck appears to be shot from a Winchester .308 rifle.

A military expert has told me that the angle of the travelling bullet that struck Seh Daeng down was somewhere between 45 to 75 degree. This can only mean that a sniper must have stalked up Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdiphol or Seh Daeng at one of the buildings nearby.

Seh Daeng was shot at around 7:00 PM yesterday while he was giving an interview to foreign journalists, including Thomas Fuller of the New York Times. He is now in critical conditions and placed under intensive care unit at Vajira Hospital. Chances of his survival are very slim.

A person by the name of El Shaheen posted an interesting comment in Thomas Fuller's report, Thai General Shot; Army Moves to Face Protesters, in the New York Times as follows:

"I was at Sala Deang area near the MRT station. A group of us reported about noise coming from the the Dusit Hotel. What looked like a long stick extended from the roof top. Within minutes, the general was speaking to his supporters, offering water to an elderly lady and giving her a hug. Moments later, a shot was heard from overhead. The object had been pulled back and a man with a black hood stood up and walked away. About 5 min. later. A man wearing the same outfit was escorted out of the hotel into a black police van. Quickly, it took off and proceeded to go up Rama 4 and turned left to go towards MBK.

Military officers where seen smiling and shaking each others hands from this killing of this man.

Our party was told by an army officer. You have seen nothing, go back to your hotel at once or you will be arrested and deported. He repeated again and again. You've seen nothing, nothing to see here. Go back to your hotels.

Staff at the Dusit hotel were seen outside, talking to a few of the officers.

"A group of us reported about noise coming from the the Dusit Hotel. What looked like a long stick extended from the roof top. "

A noise from the roof, heard all the way down at the MRT entrance? I think a sniper would have been a touch quieter than that. Also, IF he was on the roof of the Dusit, he would have needed to stand up AND lean over for anyone to see him at the bottom.

"Quickly, it took off and proceeded to go up Rama 4 and turned left to go towards MBK."

Either he doesn't know his left from his right, or he doesn't know Bangkok.

And how can they see from the MRT entrance into the fortified red area?

Edited May 14, 2010 by whybother

[rabo]

Interesting Eyewitness account

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong/2010/05/14/entry-1

May 14, 2010

A bullet that went through Seh Daeng's right temple before passing through his throad and the back of his neck appears to be shot from a Winchester .308 rifle.

A military expert has told me that the angle of the travelling bullet that struck Seh Daeng down was somewhere between 45 to 75 degree. This can only mean that a sniper must have stalked up Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdiphol or Seh Daeng at one of the buildings nearby.

Seh Daeng was shot at around 7:00 PM yesterday while he was giving an interview to foreign journalists, including Thomas Fuller of the New York Times. He is now in critical conditions and placed under intensive care unit at Vajira Hospital. Chances of his survival are very slim.

A person by the name of El Shaheen posted an interesting comment in Thomas Fuller's report, Thai General Shot; Army Moves to Face Protesters, in the New York Times as follows:

"I was at Sala Deang area near the MRT station. A group of us reported about noise coming from the the Dusit Hotel. What looked like a long stick extended from the roof top. Within minutes, the general was speaking to his supporters, offering water to an elderly lady and giving her a hug. Moments later, a shot was heard from overhead. The object had been pulled back and a man with a black hood stood up and walked away. About 5 min. later. A man wearing the same outfit was escorted out of the hotel into a black police van. Quickly, it took off and proceeded to go up Rama 4 and turned left to go towards MBK.

Military officers where seen smiling and shaking each others hands from this killing of this man.

Our party was told by an army officer. You have seen nothing, go back to your hotel at once or you will be arrested and deported. He repeated again and again. You've seen nothing, nothing to see here. Go back to your hotels.

Staff at the Dusit hotel were seen outside, talking to a few of the officers.

There are a number of odd things about this eye witness account. No least of which is a sniper pulling off the shot heard round the world, then getting up in plain view, coming down the lift and, without changing his appearance, walking out the front door, into a bunch of reporters (stationed at the hotel!) and getting into a clearly marked vehicle the gives away his identity and the whole plot.

Might as well have signed his autograph for the reporters (if it was a he).

Edited May 14, 2010 by rabo

[LevelHead]

Getting back to Sah Daeng, it must be obvious to everyone that :

Seh Daeng attempted assassination plus the red guards being drugged all on the same night, the night before the army moves in..........

Well its obvious who did it, however it is surprising that the "government" (the obvious candidate) would be so brazen as to do it and then just deny it, anyone who can work out 2+2=4 should be able to see within milliseconds what has happened here.

If it was last week then the link would not be so obvious as to doing it just before the crackdown starts, that stinks of just complete contempt for the law, mind you, a coup is also complete contempt for the laws of a country - so it all links in really ?

This might be the death nail in Abhisits reputation on the international stage, if it was not slaughtered already.

I'd like to know how the army drugged the red guards.

Until yesterday, the army supplied the water to the red shirts. Unbelievable? It's true.

Dis info alert. There have been pictures of public fire hydrants used by the reds. They have installed complete water systems to them. Other reports of water being sourced from police facilities.

Try reading this story.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Reds-...u-30129297.html

Always engage brain before mouth (or in this case typing fingers).

.

[waza]

Interesting Eyewitness account

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong/2010/05/14/entry-1

May 14, 2010

A bullet that went through Seh Daeng's right temple before passing through his throad and the back of his neck appears to be shot from a Winchester .308 rifle.

A military expert has told me that the angle of the travelling bullet that struck Seh Daeng down was somewhere between 45 to 75 degree. This can only mean that a sniper must have stalked up Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdiphol or Seh Daeng at one of the buildings nearby.

Seh Daeng was shot at around 7:00 PM yesterday while he was giving an interview to foreign journalists, including Thomas Fuller of the New York Times. He is now in critical conditions and placed under intensive care unit at Vajira Hospital. Chances of his survival are very slim.

A person by the name of El Shaheen posted an interesting comment in Thomas Fuller's report, Thai General Shot; Army Moves to Face Protesters, in the New York Times as follows:

"I was at Sala Deang area near the MRT station. A group of us reported about noise coming from the the Dusit Hotel. What looked like a long stick extended from the roof top. Within minutes, the general was speaking to his supporters, offering water to an elderly lady and giving her a hug. Moments later, a shot was heard from overhead. The object had been pulled back and a man with a black hood stood up and walked away. About 5 min. later. A man wearing the same outfit was escorted out of the hotel into a black police van. Quickly, it took off and proceeded to go up Rama 4 and turned left to go towards MBK.

Military officers where seen smiling and shaking each others hands from this killing of this man.

Our party was told by an army officer. You have seen nothing, go back to your hotel at once or you will be arrested and deported. He repeated again and again. You've seen nothing, nothing to see here. Go back to your hotels.

Staff at the Dusit hotel were seen outside, talking to a few of the officers.

There are a number of odd things about this eye witness account. No least of which is a sniper pulling off the shot heard round the world, then getting up in plain view, coming down the lift and, without changing his appearance, walking out the front door, into a bunch of reporters (stationed at the hotel!) and getting into a clearly marked vehicle the gives away his identity and the whole plot.

Might as well have signed his autograph for the reporters (if it was a he).

Not to mention that reporters said he was giving an interview while the eye wittness said he was hugging an elderly lady.

Edited May 14, 2010 by waza

[dobadoy]

Thai Tv said something about a winchester rifle also.

[louialive]

Accroding to Sky News they are saying they have been told that Seh Daeng is unlikely to survive

[Chaimai]

That's shot my theory. I figured levelhead probably was seh daeng, given the size of his mouth and the rubbish that comes out of it.

[whybother]

Until yesterday, the army supplied the water to the red shirts. Unbelievable? It's true.

Dis info alert. There have been pictures of public fire hydrants used by the reds. They have installed complete water systems to them. Other reports of water being sourced from police facilities.

Try reading this story.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Reds-...u-30129297.html

Always engage brain before mouth (or in this case typing fingers).

That story says nothing about who supplies the water. Practice what you preach.

Reds's security staffs guarding Langsuan area were given beverage possibly laced with sedative on Thursday night, an informed source Friday.

After drinking for a while, some guards fell asleep while some others appeared to be unconscious.

They were then taken to a hospital nearby.

The incident was believed to be the army's ploy to weaken the red shirts protesters.

[jackspratt]

Always engage brain before mouth (or in this case typing fingers).

So the Nation has now become an entirely credible source.

Amazing what you will believe (and quote) when it suits your version of events.

[rabo]

Until yesterday, the army supplied the water to the red shirts. Unbelievable? It's true.

Dis info alert. There have been pictures of public fire hydrants used by the reds. They have installed complete water systems to them. Other reports of water being sourced from police facilities.

Try reading this story.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Reds-...u-30129297.html

Always engage brain before mouth (or in this case typing fingers).

.

Dis info alert 2.

The article you referenced said nothing about military providing water to the reds till yesterday (subject of dis info)

It said nothing about who provided drinks to the guards.

Does not say what the drinks were.

Only speculates the drinks may have had sedatives.

This and another article was released yesterday. The other clearly stated that the few guards that went to the hospital were throwing up, as if sick.

[end dis info alert 2]

Notice: If you feel this dis info alert has been sent in error, please review all facts concerning subject.

Edited May 14, 2010 by rabo

[timekeeper]

Thaksin calls on govt to urgently hold talk with protesters

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra Friday issued a statement, urging the government to hold a talk with the protest leaders to end the violence.

He issued the statement via Noppadol Pattama, his former legal advisor.

Thaksin said the government had violated human rights and law by ordering the troops to crack down on the protesters.

Thaksin demanded Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to immediately carry out four things:

1) The government must stop deploying troops and police with lethal weapons to suppress on protesters.

2) The government must immediately lift the state of emergency in all provices.

3) The government must hold a talk with protest leaders immediately to find a political solution.

4) The government must hold talks with all groups in the society to try to bring about reconciliation so that the country will have genuine democracy and justice and can progress.

-- The Nation 2010-05-14

how about the government demand that he tell his workers to go home

[patjem]

I'm quite sure everyone can put 1+1 together.

Seems like you can't.

Sometimes 1+1=0 you know.

Particularly if 1 side is nageative:

"1" + "-1" =0 Spot on.

This situation needed positive talking, which only one side was willing to do, hence the result has been nothing.

[MaxLee]

Where are the UDD proteters now. Since the military seems to have a hard time containing them, the protesters must have split in various areas of Bangkok right now on the loose, am I correct?

Edited May 14, 2010 by MaxLee

[rixalex]

Try reading this story.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Reds-...u-30129297.html

You gotta be kiddin' me.

That surely can't be a link to The Nation... can it????!!!!

[chadintheusa]

Where are the UDD proteters now. Since the military seems to have a hard time containing them, the protesters must have split in various areas of Bangkok right now on the loose, am I correct?

No you aren't they are still concentrated in the protest zone. Lumphini park and Pratunam are with in the roads closed by the military.

[viking75]

Where are the UDD proteters now. Since the military seems to have a hard time containing them, the protesters must have split in various areas of Bangkok right now on the loose, am I correct?

No you aren't they are still concentrated in the protest zone. Lumphini park and Pratunam are with in the roads closed by the military.

So Asoke has been moved into this area? Try please to read more real news.

Area of contain is only small on map. Isaan is very very big.... even more big than is bangkok. Going to surround that next

Reporting now, some police fired guns at army! Many guns out there so lets hope for solution.

[jdinasia]

Timekeeper,

I have consistently been against violence - and I acknowledge the reds have at times been misled and to other times just plain stupid.

I have also supported the ending of this - and have said that the reds should go home - they had it - now they are losing it through poor leadership.

I am against, in all forms, by ANY side - sneaking around with snipers and shooting people in the head 'because we do not agree with them'

Your comment about the 'law being upheld' is a contradiction - shooting people (the topic of this thread) is not upholding the law - it is attempted murder - plain and simple

Ummmm

Sorry but again your conclusion is NOT true.

Shooting people obviously is NOT murder in many instances. For the ARMY to shoot a rogue General that is comiting treason is not murder. (Murder is a legal term that would not be applied)

The fact remains we don't know who has shot Sae Daeng yet and until we do we will NOT know how to label it. Crime? Maybe.

[Maestro]

Reporter: Bangkok sniper bullet 'felt like it grazed my head'

May 14, 2010 -- Updated 0402 GMT (1202 HKT)

A protester fires a homemade rocket toward Thai security forces from behind barricades Thursday night in Bangkok.

(CNN) -- A journalist who was interviewing a key political protest leader in Bangkok said the sniper bullet that struck the man came so close that it "felt like it grazed my head."

Describing a chaotic scene on the streets of the Thai capital Thursday night, Thomas Fuller of the International Herald Tribune described to CNN how Maj. Gen. Khattiya Sawasdipol was shot in the head as he was interviewing the opposition figure.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/...dex.html?hpt=T1

-- CNN 2010-05-14

[thaihome]

So Asoke has been moved into this area? Try please to read more real news.

Area of contain is only small on map. Isaan is very very big.... even more big than is bangkok. Going to surround that next

Reporting now, some police fired guns at army! Many guns out there so lets hope for solution.

I am looking at Asok and Suk intersection now. No redshirts, no Army, but lots and lots of cars. traffic about the same as last night. Fcuked

There is one report of some one dressed like a police officer firing at the Army near lumpini park.

TH

[jdinasia]

Interesting Eyewitness account

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong/2010/05/14/entry-1

May 14, 2010

A bullet that went through Seh Daeng's right temple before passing through his throad and the back of his neck appears to be shot from a Winchester .308 rifle.

A military expert has told me that the angle of the travelling bullet that struck Seh Daeng down was somewhere between 45 to 75 degree. This can only mean that a sniper must have stalked up Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdiphol or Seh Daeng at one of the buildings nearby.

Seh Daeng was shot at around 7:00 PM yesterday while he was giving an interview to foreign journalists, including Thomas Fuller of the New York Times. He is now in critical conditions and placed under intensive care unit at Vajira Hospital. Chances of his survival are very slim.

A person by the name of El Shaheen posted an interesting comment in Thomas Fuller's report, Thai General Shot; Army Moves to Face Protesters, in the New York Times as follows:

"I was at Sala Deang area near the MRT station. A group of us reported about noise coming from the the Dusit Hotel. What looked like a long stick extended from the roof top. Within minutes, the general was speaking to his supporters, offering water to an elderly lady and giving her a hug. Moments later, a shot was heard from overhead. The object had been pulled back and a man with a black hood stood up and walked away. About 5 min. later. A man wearing the same outfit was escorted out of the hotel into a black police van. Quickly, it took off and proceeded to go up Rama 4 and turned left to go towards MBK.

Military officers where seen smiling and shaking each others hands from this killing of this man.

Our party was told by an army officer. You have seen nothing, go back to your hotel at once or you will be arrested and deported. He repeated again and again. You've seen nothing, nothing to see here. Go back to your hotels.

Staff at the Dusit hotel were seen outside, talking to a few of the officers.

LOL ... ummmm

I think anyone checking where "El Shaheen" is posting from will note that it is NOT from Thailand.

[rabo]

Where are the UDD proteters now. Since the military seems to have a hard time containing them, the protesters must have split in various areas of Bangkok right now on the loose, am I correct?

No you aren't they are still concentrated in the protest zone. Lumphini park and Pratunam are with in the roads closed by the military.

So Asoke has been moved into this area? Try please to read more real news.

Area of contain is only small on map. Isaan is very very big.... even more big than is bangkok. Going to surround that next

Reporting now, some police fired guns at army! Many guns out there so lets hope for solution.

Can you please provide the link for this information!

[RivaArt]

If I remember correctly, "seh daeng" in thai language means "red shirt(s)".

So is the shot persons name a coincidence or you have it a bit missmatched ?!

[Samuian]

Thaksin calls on govt to urgently hold talk with protesters

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra Friday issued a statement, urging the government to hold a talk with the protest leaders to end the violence.

He issued the statement via Noppadol Pattama, his former legal advisor.

Thaksin said the government had violated human rights and law by ordering the troops to crack down on the protesters.

Thaksin demanded Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to immediately carry out four things:

1) The government must stop deploying troops and police with lethal weapons to suppress on protesters.

2) The government must immediately lift the state of emergency in all provices.

3) The government must hold a talk with protest leaders immediately to find a political solution.

4) The government must hold talks with all groups in the society to try to bring about reconciliation so that the country will have genuine democracy and justice and can progress.

-- The Nation 2010-05-14

how about the government demand that he tell his workers to go home

he's stepping over the line.... it's none of his business to tell the government what to do...

quite entertaining this man!